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2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague - Round 2 - Page 2

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Daigomi South Africa4316 Posts October 04 2007 06:37 GMT #21 Anytime is also on 3-0, and he has been playing well.

Last Romantic United States20667 Posts October 11 2007 20:36 GMT #22 10월 13일(토, Ongamenet) PM 2시 ▶공군 - Samsung BoxeR <백마고지> Stork DaezanG <블루스톰> oDin Rage/Clon <황산벌> TT (P)/sigamari (Z) OversKy (Z) < Python > Freedom (T) ACE Match <운고로 분화구> 10월 13일(토, MBCGame) PM 2시 ▶ eSTRO - CJ Tester (P) <카트리나> TheManiaMST (T) maGma (Z) <블루스톰> Sea.Jy (Z) Cool[fOu] (Z)/Bassen[fOu] (T) <성안길> sAviOr (Z)/Nbs[gm] (P) Eliza (Z) <백마고지> Much(P) ACE Match < Monty Hall SE> 10월 14일(일, Ongamenet) PM 2시 ▶MBCGame - KTF Light (T) <운고로 분화구> Haran (Z) Pusan (P) <카트리나> Flash (T) Saint[z-zone] (Z)/Bisu (P) <성안길> Reach (P)/ZergBOy (Z) Sea (T) < Monty Hall SE> Hery OR Calm (T) ACE Match <블루스톰> 10월 14일(일, MBCGame) PM 2시 ▶STX - SKTelecom Calm (Z) < Python > BeSt (P) Kal (P) <백마고지> Midas (T) BestGod (P)/Terror[fou] (Z) <황산벌> Bul_T (P)/AnomiA (Z) Hwasin (T) <운고로 분화구> Canata (T) ACE Match <블루스톰> 10월 15일(월, Ongamenet) PM 6시반 ▶Ongamenet - Hanbit Luxury (Z) <운고로 분화구> mensol[zero] (Z) HoGiL (Z) < Monty Hall SE> GGPlay (Z) NsP_Flower (Z)/Justin (T) <황산벌> FanTastic_NamoO (P)/Qoo)Max (Z) Chalrenge (P) <블루스톰> free (P) ACE Match <카트리나> 10월 15일(월, MBCGame) PM 6시반 ▶르까프 - 위메이드 Anytime (P) <블루스톰> Mind (T) Lomo (T) <카트리나> HerO_V (P) HiyA[fOu] (T)/Bright[z-zone] (Z) <성안길> Ho[WHITE] (T)/Stay[HyO] (Z) Jaedong (Z) <운고로 분화구> Rock (P) ACE Match < Python > 10월 16일(화, Ongamenet) PM 6시반 ▶ eSTRO - Samsung maGma (Z) <블루스톰> JJu (Z) SangHo (P) <카트리나> JangBi (P) Cool[fOu] (Z)/Bassen[fOu] (T) <성안길> TT (P)/sigamari (Z) MinGu (Z) <운고로 분화구> ZergMaN(Z) ACE Match < Python > 10월 16일(화, MBCGame) PM 6시반 ▶공군 - CJ DaezanG (P) <블루스톰> Iris (T) BoxeR (T) < Monty Hall SE> XellOs (T) Rage (P)/Clon (Z) <황산벌> Sea.Jy (Z)/TheManiaMST (T) fOru (P) <백마고지> Much (P) ACE Match <카트리나> 10월 17일(수, Ongamenet) PM 2시 ▶MBCGame - SKTelecom Pusan (P) <블루스톰> MuJuK (P) Light (T) < Monty Hall SE> GoRush (Z) Saint[z-zone] (Z)/Bisu (P) <황산벌> LaKe[Name] (Z)/Shudder (T) Sea (T) <백마고지> Midas (T) ACE Match <카트리나> 10월 17일(수, MBCGame) PM 2시 ▶STX - KTF Calm (Z) <백마고지> Hery (T) Hwasin (T) <운고로 분화구> Haran (Z) Terror[fou] (Z)/TheStC[GnH] (T) <성안길> Reach (P)/ZergBOy (Z) Kal (P) <블루스톰> 815 (Z) ACE Match < Python > I love the same-name stuff going on.

SonuvBob Aiur21552 Posts October 12 2007 18:49 GMT #23 Prettier version: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60683 :p Pretty much failed as a discussion thread, I guess we can keep posting them in here from now on.

Daigomi South Africa4316 Posts October 13 2007 07:51 GMT #24 I thought it was very interesting. First zvz, and then another zvz, on Blue Storm, and another two zvz's on Un'goro. I wonder if that map really is as bad for Protoss as the stats make it seem, out of the 15 games on it that we know of, there's only been protoss players on two of them. I guess that would make this: Jaedong < Un'Goro Crater > Rock A game to look out for. Other than that my predictions are: ACE 1 - 3 Samsung eSTRO 1 - 3 CJ MBC 2 - 3 KTF STX 3 - 1 SKT OGN 1 - 3 Hanbit Lecaf 3 - 0 WeMade eSTRO 3 - 1 Samsung ACE 0 - 3 CJ MBC 2 - 3 SKT STX 2 - 3 KTF I think I'm pretty much just calling the obvious games here, so I might be completely wrong. Hope KTF can get the two 3-2 scores I predicted, they have two tough games coming up. It's so hard to predict how MBC will play though, if their players perform to their strength then few teams could beat them, but they've been playing a full strength squad for a few games now, and they haven't suddenly taken all the matches 3-0.

ViRii United States826 Posts October 16 2007 16:19 GMT #25 I think this is the updated list as of today:

Daigomi South Africa4316 Posts October 16 2007 16:30 GMT #26 Thanks Virii, I'll have to go through everything though, it's very hard to keep track of all the changes if you don't make them at the same time. Will be nice to be able to compare the changes with yours though. I'm updating after the proleague tomorrow again.

ViRii United States826 Posts October 16 2007 16:42 GMT #27 Not a problem, I was kind of bored so I decided to rank them to see who was in first after last nights game.

semioldguy United States7488 Posts October 16 2007 20:18 GMT #28 less losses should be ranked better than teams with the same amount of wins but more losses. For example, ViRii in your update I think STX should be placed below the 3-1 teams since 3-1 is the better record to have with three wins. Same with eStro and Lecaf.

ViRii United States826 Posts October 16 2007 22:51 GMT #29 The way I ranked it was number of wins, and then number of game wins. So a 4-1 team that is 13-8 is ranked higher than a 4-0 team with 12-5.. because 4 = 4 and 13 > 12. I dont know if thats how PL does it or not, anyone know?

ii.blitzkrieg Canada1122 Posts October 16 2007 23:02 GMT #30 iirc they do it by wins and then by the difference in wins/losses? so cj would be +5 and lecaf would be +7 therefore lecaf would be higher than cj

ViRii United States826 Posts October 17 2007 00:20 GMT #31 Alright I think this is right then...

SonuvBob Aiur21552 Posts October 17 2007 00:33 GMT #32 Nope. http://www.progamer.or.kr/ [Progamized]

ViRii United States826 Posts October 17 2007 00:46 GMT #33 I can't read Korean But how does programer.or.kr work?

SonuvBob Aiur21552 Posts October 17 2007 01:54 GMT #34 Look at the left side, second thing down. 1 Lecaf 4G 4승 0패 100% 7 2 CJ 5G 4승 1패 80.0% 5 3 SKT 4G 3승 1패 75.0% 6 4 Ongamenet 4G 3승 1패 75.0% 5 5 KTF 4G 3승 1패 75.0% 2 6 STX 5G 3승 2패 60.0% 3 7 Samsung 5G 2승 3패 40.0% -1 8 MBCGame 5G 2승 3패 40.0% -5 9 eSTRO 6G 2승 4패 33.3% -3 10 Hanbit 4G 1승 3패 25.0% -3 11 WeMade 4G 1승 3패 25.0% -4 12 ROKAF 6G 0승 6패 0.0% -12

ViRii United States826 Posts October 17 2007 02:17 GMT #35 I know, but did they do it the way I did and I just did some math wrong?

fusionsdf Canada15390 Posts October 17 2007 02:19 GMT #36 virii, your difference is correct (and matches the last number on progamerkr), But I think the rank is based on matches won - matches lost, and not games won - games lost. (note, this is all a guess) In other words: Lecaf 4-0 = 4 CJ 4-1 = 3 SKT = 3-1 = 2 OGN = 3-1 = 2 KTF = 3-1 = 2 STX = 3-2 = 1 KHAN = 2-3 = -1 MBC = 2-3 = -1 eSTRO = 2-4 = -2 Hanbit = 1-3 = -2 FOX = 1-3 = -2 ACE = 0 - 6 = -6 Tie breaks are handled by games won - games lost.

SonuvBob Aiur21552 Posts October 17 2007 02:33 GMT #37 # Wins, then Win %, then games won - games lost

ii.blitzkrieg Canada1122 Posts October 17 2007 03:05 GMT #38 Found another typo under spoiler for detailed match statistics -> september 16th should be estro 1 - 3 skt

ViRii United States826 Posts October 17 2007 03:49 GMT #39 On October 17 2007 09:20 ViRii wrote: Alright I think this is right then... Fixed, I think I finally got it. ^_^

Daigomi South Africa4316 Posts October 17 2007 13:53 GMT #40 Ok, this week's update is IN! I made some changes to the main stats, including some pretty colors. Hope you guys like it. You'll notice I added win percentage, this reflects the game win percentage, not the match win percentage. The reason for this is actually fairly obvious: Teams are organized by their match wins first and foremost, so a team with 4 wins, and 3 losses is ranked above a team with 3 wins and 0 losses. Thus all teams with 4 wins will be ranked next to each other. The only difference in their "win percentage" would be the difference in their losses then, which makes the stat fairly obvious and unnecessary. It is much more interesting, in my opinion, to see the win percentage of the games, as teams are ranked on that after they are ranked on match performances. Some interesting stats from today's update: CJ's 2v2 squad is 5-0! Kal becomes the first player to get 5 wins (5-1), but Anytime beats his stats two days later with 5-0. Ace no longer have a single person with a positive win-ratio. CJ has played the most 1v1 players with 8 different players, while ACE has played the most teams, with 5 different teams. Calm becomes the first player to get 5 losses (3-5), and is also the player that has played the most games (8). From the 10 matches played this week there were only 3 ace matches (3-2), 4 white washes (3-0), and 3 average matches (3-1). I'm sure there are other interesting stats, but these were the ones I picked up when updating.

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