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Wanna know how to Play/Kill a Pro zerg?

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FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 20:00:08
April 03 2011 15:35 GMT
#1
Hi every1, i recently started casting my ladder/league/tournament matches and posting them on youtube. And i recently had an idea for a series of casts done through the eyes of JEcho.

What does this mean?

I'll be casting the games from just my perspective, so you can all get inside my head and see what i was doing, what i was thinking, and why i responded the way i did. I feel this will give Zerg players valuable insight into responding to many builds we all come across, such as: 2 rax, reactor hellion, 4 gate, 3 gate expand, voidray play, dts, ling bane wars, 1 base roach, 1 base muta, hatch first, and many others.

So come check me out on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/user/LagTTJEcho

comments/feedback/subscriptions are appreciated, if you have any further questions or want me to cast one of your games msg me here or on Bnet NA at LagTTJEcho.955



SPECIAL NOTE FOR PEOPLE BEING ANAL ABOUT THE TITLE
1. Its a question, nowhere does it say im a pro zerg
2. Last time i checked, you didn't have to for example be a pro basketball player, in order to TEACH pro basketball players


User was warned for this post
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 03 2011 15:35 GMT
#2
so like a modern day Psy?
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 15:40:05
April 03 2011 15:39 GMT
#3
Edit: Nevermind.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 15:41:25
April 03 2011 15:41 GMT
#4
You should probably introduce yourself a bit more. I have no idea who you are, how good you are, and thus not how capable you are of learning me anything. I can't tell for sure if the information you come up with is either wrong, fake, or actually smart. (doubly so because I don't play zerg).
MerciLess
Profile Joined September 2010
213 Posts
April 03 2011 15:42 GMT
#5
So basically you will be like every other first person streamer? I'm confused, what about this is different.
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 15:46 GMT
#6
@ excludos, are you top 200? probably not, i cant use points as a reference since the reset but im still top 200 and again... i believe your not.

@ merciless idont believe people who stream are constantly talking explaining why they are doing what they are doing. Please point me in the direction of these people
TrANCE,
Profile Joined December 2010
301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 15:49:41
April 03 2011 15:48 GMT
#7
On April 04 2011 00:41 Excludos wrote:
You should probably introduce yourself a bit more. I have no idea who you are, how good you are, and thus not how capable you are of learning me anything. I can't tell for sure if the information you come up with is either wrong, fake, or actually smart. (doubly so because I don't play zerg).


True and how Pro of a Zerg are you?

I've definitely herd of your name somewhere just can't place it alm
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 15:50 GMT
#8
More than likely from MR.Bitters coaching sessions with LiquidRet and MTWDimaga
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 15:51:56
April 03 2011 15:51 GMT
#9
I'm just as skeptical of new casters as the rest of you, but I watched a couple and it's really informative stuff. Like he's saying, very few players cast their own games and talk about their thought-processes.

Because high level Zerg play is so dependent on interpreting limited information, having a decent player talk about what it means when he sees his opponent doing X Y and Z is obviously really helpful.

Anyhow, good luck building up an audience JEcho, there's such an extreme over saturation of SC2 content right now. I, for one, really like what you have here.
RocketBOy
Profile Joined January 2011
15 Posts
April 03 2011 15:51 GMT
#10
Very argumentive and defensive to just some simple questions. Just becuase your top 200 doesn't make you a pro. What tournaments have you won if any , for all we know you cheesed your way to your current status , probably not but who knows. Kinda of like American masters are not equal to masters on Sk server.
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 15:56 GMT
#11
your right rocketboy sorry for being so offended, what bothers me is asking a question that really cant be answered, how am i supposed to explain if you'll learn anything or not.

Want a simple solution?

Watch one, if you like it and learn, you answered your own question, if not then you don't have to watch anymore.

And btw, goodluck cheesing your way to top200, theres a reason high level players don't cheese every game, because 90% of the time it fails, + i play zerg... what do you think im doing 6/8/10 pooling every high level player i face... erm ya thats right they dont know how to stop 6 pools
TrANCE,
Profile Joined December 2010
301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 15:57:47
April 03 2011 15:57 GMT
#12
On April 04 2011 00:51 RocketBOy wrote:
Very argumentive and defensive to just some simple questions. Just becuase your top 200 doesn't make you a pro. What tournaments have you won if any , for all we know you cheesed your way to your current status , probably not but who knows. Kinda of like American masters are not equal to masters on Sk server.


shut up you idiot...Dont turn it into a flame thread

JEcho best of luck just had a quick look/subscribed looks really good. when i have more time i'll take a more indepth look thanks in advance <3
MrWhompWhomp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States26 Posts
April 03 2011 15:58 GMT
#13
Why is everyone trying to rip on this guy?

I'm always looking for new Zerg content to learn from, thanks for sharing!
Divide, Conquer, Pillage, Destroy
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 15:59 GMT
#14
On April 04 2011 00:58 MrWhompWhomp wrote:
Why is everyone trying to rip on this guy?

I'm always looking for new Zerg content to learn from, thanks for sharing!


haters guna hate, probably terrans =p
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 03 2011 16:01 GMT
#15
Just fyi Combat-ex #2 on NA ladder at some point and he only cheeses lol (granted, he plays P)
Official Entusman #21
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 03 2011 16:02 GMT
#16
Thanks for the videos JEcho. I was really a big fan of Psy casting his own games, but obviously hes not active anymore.
Krayze
Profile Joined May 2009
United States213 Posts
April 03 2011 16:02 GMT
#17
Hey JEcho, I checked out a couple of your ZvT's because I just don't win vs Terran anymore. I found them unhelpful because you open up with gas pool, or some 2 drone rush which I don't want to do. I like 15 hatch, 15 pool, 17 gas, 17 overlord like Idra and many others do ZvT.

And the game against LZGamer, you started the replay after your buildings were done. I realize your trying to save time which is great, but the things I want to know are: what food did you send your scout, when you put down gas, pool. That way I can mirror your build and see how it feels, without the exact food counts, I wouldn't feel confident about trying it.

GL with your youtube vids!!
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 03 2011 16:03 GMT
#18
Did you see if you can be part of SC2Casts? I watch these vods on my iPhone often with their application.
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
April 03 2011 16:03 GMT
#19
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.
TrANCE,
Profile Joined December 2010
301 Posts
April 03 2011 16:09 GMT
#20
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored
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