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Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:27:30
April 03 2011 17:19 GMT
#41
gl man, I'll be watching your videos :D
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Rashid
Profile Joined March 2011
191 Posts
April 03 2011 17:19 GMT
#42
You still haven't told us how to kill pro zerg like how you mentioned in the title.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:27:21
April 03 2011 17:19 GMT
#43
oops double post
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 03 2011 17:21 GMT
#44
I watched your most recent ZvT and really liked it. You have a really nice agressive playstyle. However I feel like you were far ahead when the guy decided to block your hatch with an ebay whereas you went pool first so it didnt matter. If I were you I'd cast games where its more equal or you're slightly behind at the start and still win.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:22:44
April 03 2011 17:21 GMT
#45
On April 04 2011 02:19 Hoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


Welcome to the English language.


When JEcho shows that he doesn't have another job/means of support other than starcraft, then he will satisfy that definition. Winning money doesn't make you a pro unless it is a means of livelihood as I said before and as your definition shows.
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:25:10
April 03 2011 17:22 GMT
#46
On April 04 2011 02:21 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 02:19 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


Welcome to the English language.


When JEcho shows that he doesn't have another job/means of support other than starcraft, then he will satisfy that definition.



Obviously you didn't read what I posted, or your bravado is overwhelming yourself.

Edited for your edit:

It clearly states in every definition that it is for a career, or for personal gain. My cities mayor is also an orthodontist, but, he's not a professional mayor, m i rite?
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
April 03 2011 17:22 GMT
#47
I'll take a pass. Another border top 200 player streaming and casting his own wins. LoL.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:34:43
April 03 2011 17:24 GMT
#48
On April 04 2011 02:22 Hoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 02:21 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:19 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


Welcome to the English language.


When JEcho shows that he doesn't have another job/means of support other than starcraft, then he will satisfy that definition.



Obviously you didn't read what I posted, or your bravado is overwhelming yourself.


So if I win some bingo games and make some money I'm a pro bingo player? Give me a fucking break, your definition states as a means of livelyhood. Until Jecho lives without monetary support from others and plays starcraft to survive he isn't a pro.
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 03 2011 17:26 GMT
#49
On April 04 2011 02:24 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 02:22 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:21 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:19 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


Welcome to the English language.


When JEcho shows that he doesn't have another job/means of support other than starcraft, then he will satisfy that definition.



Obviously you didn't read what I posted, or your bravado is overwhelming yourself.


So if I win some bingo games and make some money I'm a pro bingo player?


If you arrived with intentions to make money, not enjoy yourself. Yes, you are in fact a pro bingoer.
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:29:12
April 03 2011 17:26 GMT
#50
On April 04 2011 02:22 Hoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 02:21 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:19 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


Welcome to the English language.


When JEcho shows that he doesn't have another job/means of support other than starcraft, then he will satisfy that definition.



Obviously you didn't read what I posted, or your bravado is overwhelming yourself.

Edited for your edit:

It clearly states in every definition that it is for a career, or for personal gain. My cities mayor is also an orthodontist, but, he's not a professional mayor, m i rite?


If he currently earns his livelyhood by being the mayor then he is a professional politician. Has JEcho even won any money? I guess I'm a pro too since I made 150 bucks at a local 2v2 tournament. I better make a presumptuous post in my stream thread about how I'm so pro!
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 03 2011 17:26 GMT
#51
You should include a little bit more information on yourself, how are you pro and what defines you as a pro? Why are you not at an MLG or at least in tournaments? I will check out the channel and subscribe though looks like a great chance to learn somethings and support another fellow starcraft II player!
SlayerS Fighting!
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:28:24
April 03 2011 17:27 GMT
#52
On April 04 2011 02:26 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 02:22 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:21 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:19 Hoku wrote:
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


Welcome to the English language.


When JEcho shows that he doesn't have another job/means of support other than starcraft, then he will satisfy that definition.



Obviously you didn't read what I posted, or your bravado is overwhelming yourself.

Edited for your edit:

It clearly states in every definition that it is for a career, or for personal gain. My cities mayor is also an orthodontist, but, he's not a professional mayor, m i rite?


If he currently earns his livelyhood by being the mayor then he is a professional politician.


He's an orthodontist for a reason. One of his professions doesn't pay all of his bills.

Edit: he's a professional ortho, and a professional mayor. That's the moral of the story.
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 03 2011 17:30 GMT
#53
It's clear to me that you're arrogant, and aren't even considering the definition of the word professional. You're simply basing your argument off your own colloquialism of the word. Have a nice day. I hope insulting players who are leagues in front of you gets you somewhere in the TL community.
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 03 2011 17:33 GMT
#54
So what we have here is..a top 100 NA player, and a bunch of low post count trolls flaming him even though he's trying to give advice to lower level players(more than likely the bad trolls).

What the hell is wrong with this picture?

Either way, I support you.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 17:33 GMT
#55
if i realised people where gunna go anal over the title i probably would have been a bit more careful, i infact dont have a job and do make $ off starcraft, to prove this i assume you would like me to post some bank statements? lol what a joke, if thats your biggest gripe, feel free not to watch, im asking people to look at videos and see if they like them, you act as if im about to perform surgery and you wanna see some credentials before you take the risk.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 03 2011 17:33 GMT
#56
On April 04 2011 01:01 infinity21 wrote:
Just fyi Combat-ex #2 on NA ladder at some point and he only cheeses lol (granted, he plays P)

Does he make fpvods / cast his own games like he used to a few years ago? I'm in need of entertainment.
:)
Luvz
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway356 Posts
April 03 2011 17:34 GMT
#57
Hello Mr top 200. i have a tip for you. ----> Arrogance usually don't work well in promoting your Youtube chan/streaming.


Don't call yourself a pro unless your living is playing starcraft.
Norway ~ Home of the brave <3
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 03 2011 17:35 GMT
#58
On April 04 2011 02:33 JEcho wrote:
if i realised people where gunna go anal over the title i probably would have been a bit more careful, i infact dont have a job and do make $ off starcraft, to prove this i assume you would like me to post some bank statements? lol what a joke, if thats your biggest gripe, feel free not to watch, im asking people to look at videos and see if they like them, you act as if im about to perform surgery and you wanna see some credentials before you take the risk.


People just need to puff up their chest. You're obviously better than they are, and they're trying to convince themselves of their own worth. Tuned into your stream. :D Thanks for helping the community.
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 03 2011 17:35 GMT
#59
On April 04 2011 02:34 Luvz wrote:
Hello Mr top 200. i have a tip for you. ----> Arrogance usually don't work well in promoting your Youtube chan/streaming.


Don't call yourself a pro unless your living is playing starcraft.

Read more than the OP before posting, lolled.
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 03 2011 17:38 GMT
#60
I subbed, I have alot of trouble winning my games now after the reset. I am 10 - 15 and it's kind of depressing if you keep losing because of silly 1 base all-in pushes or screwing up your zvz with a foolish drone round when you really should've made units. I really need someone like this atm.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
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