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Wanna know how to Play/Kill a Pro zerg? - Page 2

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FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 16:09 GMT
#21
pro tip: didnt realise top 200 was ladder?

pro tip 2: didn't ladder just reset? people on top are people massing games
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 16:12:31
April 03 2011 16:10 GMT
#22
Wow, the amount of people ripping on this guy is just depressing.
He might not be Julyzerg but hes pretty fucking skilled.

And for those bringing the combat-ex comparison, he plays P, and he dosent only cheese, just a large portion of his games and plays very abusive, you cant exactly cheese you're way into the top 200as Z.

On topic, thanks for the vids, starting playing a little sc2 again so will definitely watch them.
|| o.o
MrWhompWhomp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States26 Posts
April 03 2011 16:10 GMT
#23
Watched the game on Taldarim Altar vs Machine.

I wish I would of saw this a couple days ago, I opened 15 hatch into roaches on taldarim like machine did and got raped twice in a row by speedlings. Very helpful casts!
Divide, Conquer, Pillage, Destroy
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 16:15 GMT
#24
@krayze, i skip the openings because, i open standard 14gas 14 pool, sending the scout out at 10 11 or 12 its basically the same thing every game (if you wanna be sure some of my first vids i believe start from the very beginning) and unfortunately for you i dont open hatch first just because of how open it leaves zerg to being abused. Theres alot less you need to deal with going pool first because pulling drones in hatch first really makes each opening unique depending on the exact # of drones you pull, how many you lose, and what kind of aggression / duration of said aggression your opponent brings.
Algar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States27 Posts
April 03 2011 16:17 GMT
#25
I watched some of your videos. I have to say I like your style. You are very conservative! It seems like lots of zergs take too many risks and you aren't afraid to just make units if needed instead of droning like crazy.
Thanks. I like to play.
Zabedisi
Profile Joined March 2011
88 Posts
April 03 2011 16:18 GMT
#26
I really like these style of commentary. It's too bad psy doesn't seem to do it anymore. sub'd.

I've seen his name before I think he played on Mr.Bitter's show a few times (not as instructor). He's much better than me which is all I care for really. ^^
The man with no imagination has no wings
BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
April 03 2011 16:20 GMT
#27
hey cool vods bro! dunno why everyone started hating on you the second you posted but thanks for some good high level Z stuff.
All hail the Queen!!!
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
April 03 2011 16:21 GMT
#28
Didn't you take a game of Ret on MrBitters stream before? Anyway, great zerg, i'm gonna watch some videos.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Algar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States27 Posts
April 03 2011 16:28 GMT
#29
I subscribed to your youtube page. Ignore the haters
Thanks. I like to play.
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 21:11:10
April 03 2011 16:36 GMT
#30
Don't understand the hate and question of credibility. You guys want his portfolio? He posts his own replay packs and is consistently (I mean it, consistently) in the top 200 of the ladder. He plays vs and beats well known players, and is quite knowledgeable (enough to where we have near hour long strategy and theory discussions)

Albeit he is a clan mate of mine, i'm speaking as unbiased as I can - he's a good player, and one of our crutches for clan wars (Mr all-kill).

"You foiled us this time Americans, but your liberty will not protect your Marilyn Monroe forever - our Queen must FEED!" - Deleuze
CapnAmerica
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States508 Posts
April 03 2011 16:43 GMT
#31
I like the way you laid out your game vs geNo. Very insightful for people learning Zerg a bit more and definitely helpful to me for understanding drone timings.

One thing I did notice is that the Terran you played against was fairly weak in terms of harassment, do you typically have more problems keeping everything in order against a harass heavy build like mass marine drops or hellion/banshee play?
After all this time, I still haven't figured out the correlation between sexual orientation and beating an unprepared opponent. Are homosexuals the next koreans? Many players seem to think it's an unfair advantage. - pandaburn
Dudemeister
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden314 Posts
April 03 2011 16:52 GMT
#32
Thank you, very informative!
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
April 03 2011 17:05 GMT
#33
Nice to see a new zerg streamer but please change ur confusing title.
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 03 2011 17:06 GMT
#34
Haters gonna hate...

I don't know why everyone feels the need to rip on someone who's trying to help the community. If you ask me, people are just trying to convince themselves that they have some sort of credibility.

Keep it up thanks for the streams.
I put my pants on two legs at a time.
Dudemeister
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden314 Posts
April 03 2011 17:07 GMT
#35
Haha I love the Terran insult in your game vs Geno :D
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 03 2011 17:10 GMT
#36
@capnamerica, typically harassment heavy Terrrans are lacking in other areas, ill post a replay to explain what i mean

@termit yes that was me =p

@pred what title?
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
April 03 2011 17:10 GMT
#37
played him on ladder, nothign special.. might as well watch my zerg stream..

. sucks losing cuz of ovi block even tho I had the game in my hands whole time?
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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:17:21
April 03 2011 17:14 GMT
#38
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
April 03 2011 17:16 GMT
#39
On April 04 2011 01:36 DuckS wrote:
Don't understand the hate and credibility question of credibility. You guys want his portfolio? He posts his own replay packs and is consistently (I mean it, consistently) in the top 200 of the ladder. He plays vs and beats well known players, and is quite knowledgeable (enough to where we have near hour long strategy and theory discussions)

Albeit he is a clan mate of mine, i'm speaking as unbiased as I can - he's a good player, and one of our crutches for clan wars (Mr all-kill).



What pisses people off is when someone who doesn't make a living playing SC2 and most people haven't heard of calls themselves a pro. Nobody is questioning his contribution to the community.
Hoku
Profile Joined September 2010
United States129 Posts
April 03 2011 17:19 GMT
#40
On April 04 2011 02:14 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 01:09 TrANCE, wrote:
On April 04 2011 01:03 SiN] wrote:
Pro tip: Don't call yourself pro based on ladder, especially if you aren't even top 50.


Pritty sure he's sponsored


There are probably only <40 players who make a decent living off of (playing) SC2. Being sponsored doesn't mean you are a pro. I had sponsorships for downhill skiing when I was 16... Calling yourself a pro when you don't actually make a living off of SC is presumptuous end of story. If the general starcraft audience hasn't heard of you, and you aren't winning top tournaments and making a decent amount of cash (enough to live off of), you aren't pro, you are amateur.


Professional:
"undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball. "


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