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Wanna know how to Play/Kill a Pro zerg? - Page 5

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dalenous
Profile Joined July 2010
19 Posts
April 06 2011 04:32 GMT
#81
I watched the videos, and as an amateur zerg player i found them extremely helpful. Just the insight of like, checking to see what is being chrono boosted, and if this then that type of stuff really helps. Im subscribing. Keep up the vids!
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
April 06 2011 04:43 GMT
#82
I have seen this guy play and he is good. I saw him play on MrBitters show, in one of the ZvZ with LiquidRet episodes and he beat him. Anyone who can beat LiquidRet in a straight up macro game, pro or not, is worth listening to. Also, he is on LaGTT which is not the most well known team, but for anyone who is well informed in terms of the professional SC2 scene, they are a recognizable and credible team.

I would personally recommend at least giving it a shot, especially if you are a zerg player. Also, best of luck to you JEcho. Don't let the skeptics bring you down =)
r4s
Profile Joined April 2010
United States19 Posts
April 06 2011 05:09 GMT
#83
Great videos, love your commentary.

Keep up the good work.
Jeffbelittle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States468 Posts
April 06 2011 05:14 GMT
#84
Very cool!

Any chance a Protoss clan mate of yours may do the same as you are?
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
April 06 2011 05:48 GMT
#85
Seriously? Why is everyone jumping down JEcho's throat?
If you don't like his attitude/stream, just don't watch it.

But at the very least, consider that he's nice enough to stream his games and commentate on his thinking process, instead of going "HURR DURR WATCH MY STREAM OF ME PWNING IN TOP 200, I'M BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU."

If anything his stream DOES contribute to the community, especially to lower leveled Zerg players.

I will admit, though, that the title is misleading. Perhaps the mods should change it~?
Do the impossible, see the invisible. Row, row, fight the power!
fusihunter
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia208 Posts
April 06 2011 06:13 GMT
#86
On April 06 2011 14:14 Jeffbelittle wrote:
Very cool!

Any chance a Protoss clan mate of yours may do the same as you are?



Jemag?


I'll check these out later for sure, I saw you MrBitter's stream as well, and i have to say there was no way Ret was going to let you win that last game after you beat him the first time haha!


To all those who are saying he's not good enough, then i guess you must all be alot better otherwise you can't judge.

nice work dude!
"I actually don't like games. I just like beating people." - Idra
arancidcod
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
April 06 2011 07:28 GMT
#87
Watched a couple of your videos and they seem great. I also enjoyed watching Psy, looking forward to see what you put up next. I'd suggest people arguing about whether he comes off as a jerk or not in the op just watch a few of the videos and move along if you don't like them.
Izukue
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada101 Posts
April 06 2011 07:49 GMT
#88
I think you're doing a great thing for the community Even if people flame you remember that you're always going to get a bunch of people who fully appreciate you for your advice but are too shy to say so :x

Glhf in your next videos :D
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
April 06 2011 07:58 GMT
#89
On April 04 2011 00:46 JEcho wrote:
@ excludos, are you top 200? probably not, i cant use points as a reference since the reset but im still top 200


This should have been in the OP and a list of your "qualifications" specified. I also was wondering how good you were and it wasnt until you bashed this response that i found out. This guy wasn't accusing you of being a noob, he was simply looking for your experience/skill level before he started following you religiously.


@ merciless idont believe people who stream are constantly talking explaining why they are doing what they are doing. Please point me in the direction of these people


There are plenty of streamers who talk all the time AND explain what they are doing, the first and foremost example I can think of being RootDestiny. InControl is another example (may not talk all the time but tends to explain important parts).
Micro your Macro
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
April 06 2011 08:02 GMT
#90
At first I thought this guy would be a loudmouth who stumbled into top 200, but after watching one video he's pretty legit.

Thanks, great content and ideas. Will watch these tonight.
Lanaia is love.
Nadagast
Profile Joined January 2009
United States245 Posts
April 06 2011 08:03 GMT
#91
On April 04 2011 01:01 infinity21 wrote:
Just fyi Combat-ex #2 on NA ladder at some point and he only cheeses lol (granted, he plays P)

Not true, he played me straight up a few days ago!
TENTHST
Profile Joined December 2010
United States204 Posts
April 06 2011 08:04 GMT
#92
hes not a jerk.

ive known him for 4-5 months now and hes a good guy and tries to help wherever and whenever he can.

for any of you to turn down this kind of free instruction would be foolish.
Vundox
Profile Joined March 2011
United States182 Posts
April 06 2011 08:30 GMT
#93
nadagast!!! my favorite warlock of all time!!!! glad to see youre doing well in sc2 as well
implying Suzy isn't perfect
ravEzi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel44 Posts
April 06 2011 08:39 GMT
#94
Loved the the idea, like directors commentaring their films, helps beginners understanding the whys and not only the hows.
Good luck.
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FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
April 06 2011 14:32 GMT
#95
Thanks guys for the support, as for protoss, i know PvZ really well from the protoss side as well, i'll check if my protoss teamates are doing anything of the sort, if not i can at least do a few PvZ
SingDaSorrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States15 Posts
April 06 2011 16:38 GMT
#96
great videos! Reacting based on what info i see is always a problem for me
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
April 06 2011 17:53 GMT
#97
Despite all the debates about your thread title which i'm frankly not going to get into because honestly who cares...you probably did it to get as many views on the post as possible whether your a true 'pro' or not is irrelevant.

Good luck with the rest of it.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 17:56:14
April 06 2011 17:55 GMT
#98
moved to blogs. Advertising your yt channel with 56 posts is frowned upon.

however, it does look like your quality is good, and i'll be looking for more.
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
1Lamb1Rice
Profile Joined August 2010
United States435 Posts
April 06 2011 18:01 GMT
#99
On April 06 2011 17:02 Zerokaiser wrote:
At first I thought this guy would be a loudmouth who stumbled into top 200, but after watching one video he's pretty legit.

Thanks, great content and ideas. Will watch these tonight.


Not sure many people stumble into top 200, it takes so much time/practice.

Anyway, OP - I tuned in, i liked the aggressive play style with roach/banes. One of my concerns is that it's a metagame build and not an actual stable build (not 100% sure) similar to kyrix style aggression that was predicated on terran players getting greedy and expanding too fast. What do you think?
twitch.tv/lambnrice @LambNRice
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
April 06 2011 18:40 GMT
#100
I've watched the stream, I found it very helpful from a certain point of view just to learn the timings of the Z's I play. On the other hand I find it very discouraging when they only have 3/4ths the units you would and still less drones... lol master Z's need to learn from better master Z's -.-

Still good work ^^ it was fun to watch.
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