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It used to be common information that someone could 4-gate their way into Diamond league (pre-masters). However, Master league is considered more prestigious and difficult to get into.
I've had people tell me it can't really be done without a tremendous amount of games played, and I'm setting out to prove them wrong.
I started on a Silver account and have been working my way up. Follow me on my stream to see my progress! You can get to my stream under the non-featured streams on the side bar: ppgButtercup
If you have any suggestions on 4-warp variations I should implement to my arsenal feel free to post them here. The build "MUST" be a 4-gate build that does not focus on expanding.
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Direct Link to Ustream
Teamliquid.net Stream Link
4-Gate Replays: Rambozo
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I completed my trip to Master League. Currently my MMR is over 2800+ Master range based on my opponents. My final stats were: 71-29 1097.Master
Again, note that probably 18 wins and 14 losses were on the account before I started 4-warping. It took me a total of three play sessions to hit Master League from Silver. I averaged roughly an 80% win ratio from when I started.
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pretty lame but I bet you can do it. yesterday I played a high ranked diamond guy who's first units warped in a 7:30 for his 4 gate. wtf
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so you are openly saying you are a dick and you want us to watch you 4gating every single game. Am i right?
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4 gate prism
4 gate forge with + 1 attack researching while attacking
Proxy 2 gate into 4 gate forge (use cannons to protect the proxy gates lolol)
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Yeah it's possible. Nothing to be proud of though. You're just going to be demoted once you get bored of 4 gating every single game.
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Diamond is terrible now (I'm mid Masters and I dominate everyone on my friend's Diamond account), so yes you can easily 4gate to Masters.
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On February 09 2011 05:17 ApBuLLet wrote:
Yeah it's possible. Nothing to be proud of though. You're just going to be demoted once you get bored of 4 gating every single game.
He's using a different account. He's actually a masters zerg.
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On February 09 2011 05:16 Bruky wrote:
so you are openly saying you are a dick and you want us to watch you 4gating every single game. Am i right?
He said he was a dick? Could you quote that part because I couldn't find it.
If you pull this off I'm switching to protoss 
But yeah, I doubt people will be interested in watching hundreds of 4 gates in a row. Good luck!
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I, for one, will be following this.
I am curious if it's possible or not 4-gating into Masters. It's always been the consensus that it's not possible because pros counter it well, but we will soon find out!
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link to ur stream pls.. its not in the list
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now it is
lol
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Ofcourse its possible, people are 4-gating their way into GSL already!
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the idea itself is pretty terrible. i think its the persons skills that allow them to advance to new leagues not builds. i'm confident any build i decide on for any race i can compete in masters with as long as it isn't something ridiculous like expand 3 times before pool..
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Perhaps if more and more people get into Masters via 4gating, Blizz will try to figure out a way to provide more strat variety for protoss. I'm saying this as a protoss player myself, and I'm starting to get sick of all the 4 gates I'm seeing my P opponents do (it's like 95% of my pvp matches).
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4-gate is a legit strategy. Of course you can 4-gate your way into masters.
Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's imbalanced. There are plenty of ways to defeat a 4-gate.
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On February 09 2011 05:23 e4e5nf3 wrote:
Perhaps if more and more people get into Masters via 4gating, Blizz will try to figure out a way to provide more strat variety for protoss. I'm saying this as a protoss player myself, and I'm starting to get sick of all the 4 gates I'm seeing my P opponents do (it's like 95% of my pvp matches).
well most of the time its the only valuable strat you can do sadly, just like a lot of other strats based on certain maps of other races
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i would be shocked if you dont menage. I played like 30 games with toss, still menaged to 4 gate some almost 3k zergs while offracing
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On February 09 2011 05:21 KillerPlague wrote:
the idea itself is pretty terrible. i think its the persons skills that allow them to advance to new leagues not builds. i'm confident any build i decide on for any race i can compete in masters with as long as it isn't something ridiculous like expand 3 times before pool..
only 1/2 true. It's the ease at wich certain builds can be executed that augment a player's already established skill/understanding of the game.
I used to 15 hatch every game vs every race, and while it's a good build(vs T) I was a shoddy player and it cost me many a game. This is NOT necessarily proof of what you claimed, it's just that the concepts fueling 15 hatch play go deeper than simply "macro, micro and you win!" - it comes down to execution, positioning, scouting, and game-sense. You get an early nat, but what you do with it is completely flexible and dependent on reacting to what the other guy is doing. You need to be macroing, microing, scouting, teching and have a good sense of what you're opponent is doing, as well as what you need to do in response to it.
On the contrary: 4 gating is pretty straight forward - you're being aggressive extremely early on. The all-in probe-cutting variant is even more so because you don't have to worry about expanding or teching whatsoever. The only trials you're in for are overcoming bad macro and micro, and once those are ironed out you have a really solid build that doesn't require much thought beyond: Constantly re-enforce, engage correctly and you win. For the most part you win/lose not based on personal skill, but your opponent's response. (they let you forcefield their ramp, it's kinda auto-gg as well)
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It's quite easy infact, ofcourse you need to start on a new account where you have a very mmr from very little wins, you can probably win 30/45 of your battles, which should place you in master.
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