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Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:13 GMT
#1
There is nothing that pisses me off quite like the word Progamer and how frequently it is used. Progamer is not a goddamn word, so please stop using it! Seriously, is it really that hard to actually click the damn space bar so that "Pro gamer" becomes legibly different from "Programmer". As a programmer myself, 99% of the time when I read the word "Progamer", I immediately think "Programmer" and then go WTF now this doesn't make sense.

In no other sport in the world are the words pro + sport's name put together in the same damn word. Pro baseball player, pro football player, pro soccer player IS NOT probaseballer, profootballer, prosoccerer.

You can even look at how the word is pronounced:

Pro........*LOOK AT THIS PAUSE*.... Gamer

Pro.......................................*LOOK AT THIS GODDAMN PAUSE!*.........Gamer

It is not pronounced Progamer all in one fricking breath.

So for the love of god, please expend the teeny little bit of energy to click the space bar or add a hyphen between the words Pro and Gamer.

Note: Exception for translations, not knowing Korean or other languages I have no idea if that it how it was actually written or not. Thanks for always translating articles for those of us who are interested in the happenings on the Korean e-Sport scene. Keep up the good work!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5660 Posts
October 13 2010 01:14 GMT
#2
YA AND GOOGLE ISN'T A WORD EITHER IM' SO ANGRY
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Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:15 GMT
#3
On October 13 2010 10:14 mOnion wrote:
YA AND GOOGLE ISN'T A WORD EITHER IM' SO ANGRY


Google is a proper noun. Proper nouns can be anything.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 13 2010 01:15 GMT
#4
Nothing that pisses you off that much? Nothing? What about child abuse? Genocide? Clubbing baby seals?
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
October 13 2010 01:16 GMT
#5
On October 13 2010 10:14 mOnion wrote:
YA AND GOOGLE ISN'T A WORD EITHER IM' SO ANGRY

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
October 13 2010 01:16 GMT
#6
Been thinking this myself. Its kind of funny that the same people that go apeshit over people not using the word metagame correctly are themselves using the "word" progamer.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
October 13 2010 01:17 GMT
#7
Let's just call you a prog-rammer instead.
Aprikosen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden53 Posts
October 13 2010 01:18 GMT
#8
We introduce new words all the time.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5660 Posts
October 13 2010 01:18 GMT
#9
On October 13 2010 10:16 Blind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 10:14 mOnion wrote:
YA AND GOOGLE ISN'T A WORD EITHER IM' SO ANGRY

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google


verb ? come on thread
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Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:18 GMT
#10
On October 13 2010 10:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Nothing that pisses you off that much? Nothing? What about child abuse? Genocide? Clubbing baby seals?


Excuse the exaggeration, of course certain things such as those do piss me off, I was just trying to express my extreme dislike for the word "progamer".
Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:20 GMT
#11
On October 13 2010 10:18 Aprikosen wrote:
We introduce new words all the time.


New words are fine as long as they don't get confused with other words, programmers are a considerable portion of the gaming world so, as it is the case for me, it is quite easy to get progamer and programmer confused.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 13 2010 01:21 GMT
#12
On October 13 2010 10:13 Rakdos wrote:
It is not pronounced Progamer all in one fricking breath.


I actually do pronounce it like that.
"Flash is a progamer" not "Flash is a pro ... gamer"
I am the Town Medic.
Aprikosen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden53 Posts
October 13 2010 01:23 GMT
#13
On October 13 2010 10:20 Rakdos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 10:18 Aprikosen wrote:
We introduce new words all the time.


New words are fine as long as they don't get confused with other words, programmers are a considerable portion of the gaming world so, as it is the case for me, it is quite easy to get progamer and programmer confused.


I could see how you could mix those two words together. This is a pretty big problem.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 13 2010 01:24 GMT
#14
Starcraft defined progamer imo
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
October 13 2010 01:25 GMT
#15
Rakdos, my friend, you can attempt to force your spelling preferences onto the people around you. But 1) you won't accomplish anything and 2) you come off as a dickhead who mistakes his own personal little list of likes and dislikes for universal law.

Once the avalanche has started, the pebbles don't get to vote.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:25 GMT
#16
On October 13 2010 10:21 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 10:13 Rakdos wrote:
It is not pronounced Progamer all in one fricking breath.


I actually do pronounce it like that.
"Flash is a progamer" not "Flash is a pro ... gamer"


Then your oral skills must be terrible, you pause after the "pro" in order to put emphasis on it because someone who is "pro" at something is considerably skilled at that something and is better then your average player/person.
im a roc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States745 Posts
October 13 2010 01:27 GMT
#17
Yeah, eSports isn't a word either. We SC players have our own special words we use do describe our very niche interests.
Beware The Proxy Pool Rush
Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:29 GMT
#18
On October 13 2010 10:25 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Rakdos, my friend, you can attempt to force your spelling preferences onto the people around you. But 1) you won't accomplish anything and 2) you come off as a dickhead who mistakes his own personal little list of likes and dislikes for universal law.

Once the avalanche has started, the pebbles don't get to vote.


Spelling mistakes such as typos don't really annoy me that much. But spelling mistakes caused by lack of space bar usage is just dumb. Anyidiotcantypewithoutspacebarbutthatdoesn'tmakeitcorrectorsomethingthatshouldbejustbrushedoff. Especially when it causes misunderstandings and problems for readers who are just trying to read articles about topics that interest them.
xxjondxx
Profile Joined February 2010
United States89 Posts
October 13 2010 01:30 GMT
#19
woah Didnt Know flash Was a ProGrammer
Rakdos
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
October 13 2010 01:31 GMT
#20
On October 13 2010 10:27 im a roc wrote:
Yeah, eSports isn't a word either. We SC players have our own special words we use do describe our very niche interests.


Pro-gamer and Pro Gamer are words. There isn't an alternative for eSports, which btw is an abreviation of the term Electronic Sports, progamer isn't an abreviation, its just poor English.
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