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On October 13 2010 14:35 numLoCK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 14:23 T0fuuu wrote: I find the word pro gamer paradoxical. It comes from people who want to make esports a respectable profession but the word itself is a bash of slang. It would be like calling a professional athlete referring to himself as a proath. Or a pro athlete, which is common enough... I don't see a problem with this community using the word progamer like it does. It has meaning to us, and so we use it that way.
pro athlete right? you just said pro athlete...not proathlete....pro [look at this space!] athlete.
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United States10328 Posts
I say "progamer" as one word. I do get angry when people misspell it as "progammer" or "programmer" though ;;;;;
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ITT OP posts opinion as if fact. Probably came for SC2.
User was warned for this post
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Osaka27118 Posts
I don't care if you don't like it. It is part of our dialect.
On October 13 2010 13:15 Rakdos wrote:Show nested quote + If you're going to put high standards on other people, I think you should at least learn the difference between "your" and "you're." This is not stemming from laziness, but a misunderstanding of how the English language works...
I'm absolutely terrible with those particular words....and I know it.
Then you are in no position to make this thread.
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Rakdos, let me make up my previous poor post by saying this; it is pointless.
Progamer is distinctly Korean-Starcraft and is currently in wide use. People will not stop using the word. You may as well go attack every new slang term to enter common use. After all, it probably isn't correctly!
Especially in a formative sport\community you can't expect to dictate by some sort of authority which word is going to be used. Understandably it might be frustrating when pro-gamer might be correct, but it won't change.
Even if you were absolutely objectively correct you likely wouldn't put a dent in common usage. Use pro-gamer if you want, the rest of us will use progamer (as a pseudo-merge of two words and thinking of the Korean commentators saying it if you're anything like me) like we've been doing.
Lots of things were once not words, friend Rakdos.
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List of words I found in TL that would also not make sense to you
-teamliquid -starcraft -broodwar -starcraft 2 -proleague -starleague -youtube -liquipedia
and the list goes on
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it's in our vernacular d00d, accept it. you're not going to change it even though it hurts your brain each time you read it written that way.
also, i think it's funny that you ask other people to expend "energy" to write a little hyphen or space but you don't want to expend the same little amount of energy to carefully read a single word.
p.s. PROGAMER... ESPORTS!
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I don't see it as purely a conjugation, more like the e-sports (esports?) version of "athlete".
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On October 13 2010 10:18 mOnion wrote:verb ? come on thread
I remember, the days of altavista and askjeeves as the two most popular search engines before google existed, and google was just a term for 1x10^100.
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On October 13 2010 17:42 ZlaSHeR wrote:I remember, the days of altavista and askjeeves as the two most popular search engines before google existed, and google was just a term for 1x10^100.
are you google years old?
I believe the order was
fire > wheel > google > computers
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(regarding progamer or pro gamer or whatever) ...It is not pronounced Progamer all in one fricking breath...
I can say "pro gamer" without having to breathe between "pro" and "gamer"
:D
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
PEUHH-LOOO-GEHH-YEE-MOHH!!!!!!
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I love how this guy demands we stop using jargon since it's not standard English, and then refers to an anecdote that explicitly reveals poor reading comprehension on his part. Seriously, "programmer" sports 2 entire letters more than "progamer". There's absolutely no way to mix the two words up unless you're reading entirely too quickly and/or are dyslexic.
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Rakdos, you are tragically ignorant of the history and evolution of language. There are plenty of words that did not exist at some point in history (i.e. all of them). An example: programmer.
It is one word in Korean, based on two loanwords from English, and then people outside of Korea started using it as one word because it was established as a standard. I don't know why you are endeavoring so assiduously to dispute something that is accepted by almost everyone in the community.
Your inane arguments also suggests a proper pronunciation, which is even at odds with the way the vast majority of people say it. There are so many issues with syntax in your op, and the layout is horrific to read, so I suggest you take a step back before making purposeless accusations and demanding something be changed that no one else cares about.
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