• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:19
CEST 21:19
KST 04:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-60SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE15Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8
StarCraft 2
General
August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Life's Huge Gambling Spree After IEM Katowice 2014 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles #19 2-Days Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Scarlett Fan Club The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3900 users

SCBW Coaching: Update 3

Blogs > {88}iNcontroL
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:15:26
January 05 2010 11:30 GMT
#1
As you might have seen in these blogs: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103660

And: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107110

I am currently coaching SCBW for 10$ an hour.

As an update I'd like to discuss some plans for continual growth in this endeavor. So far it has gone really well and I have had lots of individuals come to me ranging from B+ up-and-comers to D- nubs struggling to understand this glorious game. So far the results have all been positive which is promising!

I am enrolled in my final classes for college so I can now shape my schedule and openly discuss when I am available.

As of now, Tuesdays and Thursdays are mostly filled up with class time and probably are not conducive to a good training session. However, Monday, Weds, Friday and most weekends ARE OPEN for training.

Additionally, I'd like to offer deals that are both productive for you (the prospective student/customer) and myself:

DEALS
1. If you are a first time student, a 2 hour session is now only 15$ as oppose to the 20$ regular price. This means you get 30 minutes free. The idea is that I want to expose my teaching prowess to more people and hopefully grow my business while not costing you as much with a first time experience.

2. If you purchase a bundle of hours exceeding 4 hours you will get 5$ off each hour purchased after the 4 hours. That means, if you purchase 6 hours of training at once you will pay only 50$

3. Returning customers who purchase 4 hours of training at once get 1 hour free along with the deal discussed in #2. This means for 40$ they get 6 hours of training. This however is a 1 time offer per returning customer.

So hopefully this has good feed back! Let me know your thoughts and as always PM me if you have q's or post in here.

As always, I encourage you to read the customer reviews provided in the first link.
As an update, I can now host games so there is no restriction that way.

There is critical discourse in this thread that allows for individuals to consider this coaching with both perspectives in mind. Please, if you are on the fence, read my post on page 4 before ruling it out. This has been a good thing for many including myself and I would hate to miss the opportunity to work with you because of the words of misguided or uninformed (for the most part) individuals
I look forward to doing business with you all!

***
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:28:48
January 05 2010 11:36 GMT
#2
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 05 2010 11:44 GMT
#3
On January 05 2010 20:36 ven wrote:
You might wanna get your facts straight so that it doesn't seem like you're ripping people off with misleading slogans.

i don't understand. what is misleading?
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
January 05 2010 11:51 GMT
#4
the exponential part I think
This is my truth, tell me yours!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 05 2010 11:51 GMT
#5
Yeah I am thoroughly confused..

Also I have had over 30 students and none of which were "ripped off" I think we can go ahead and rule out a scandal at this point.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24785 Posts
January 05 2010 11:57 GMT
#6
I think he's just nitpicking #2 like distant_voice suggested. It isn't technically an exponentially growing benefit, although it's clear from your description that you simply get five dollars off per hour over 4 that you purchase so I don't see a problem.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
January 05 2010 11:57 GMT
#7
I've been thinking about lessons, you accept money though pay-pal right?
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
January 05 2010 11:59 GMT
#8
Do you help only Zerg players, because ur Zerg obviously, or do u know everything about every race?
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
January 05 2010 12:04 GMT
#9
I'm thinking about doing this eventually, and now seems like the best time.

A question though:

How useful do you think this would be for someone who has played StarCraft only minimally (I'm talking a few games on Battlenet, a year or two ago), without any build order knowledge. The only thing they have going for them is the most basic understanding of the game.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 12:17:27
January 05 2010 12:13 GMT
#10
Well, even if you need to learn the basics, you can bet that Inc will make it easier for you to learn than if you were to learn yourself.

I have a bit of an off-topic question.
What's the average pay per hour for people in high school/college in the USA?
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 12:16:42
January 05 2010 12:14 GMT
#11
Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to help.
I never said that you were ripping people off nor that you were trying to.
The statement just bothered me because it increases the the discount's perceived value which might put people off if they notice the fallacy whether it's unintentional or not.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 05 2010 12:24 GMT
#12
On January 05 2010 20:59 BaltA wrote:
Do you help only Zerg players, because ur Zerg obviously, or do u know everything about every race?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103660
Here he says his other races max out at C+. So I wouldn't say learn from him. If you are a Terran, I think Gretorp was offering lessons.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom204 Posts
January 05 2010 12:34 GMT
#13
lame
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
January 05 2010 13:27 GMT
#14
On January 05 2010 21:34 orangeshines wrote:
lame


y?
because he isn't doing it for free? Obviously there would be to much demand if that were the case + there would be no incentive for Incontrol.

10 $ are pretty cheap after all for an hour of tutoring. I can see this being worthwile for people who want to get better but are somehow stuck at a specific lvl.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7035 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 13:46:01
January 05 2010 13:44 GMT
#15
That is so cheap, imo. every single starting player (or better obvs) who can afford this should insta call this offer if you're serious about getting better in SC.

Had you offered this a year ago I would've been one of the first in line.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
January 05 2010 13:51 GMT
#16
bw classes coming back? lol i remember years ago when it started, satanik(a guy from greece) would give 100h for 100€ and ppl flamed him as hell for destroying their business
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom204 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 14:04:24
January 05 2010 13:53 GMT
#17
Because a defining trait of the Starcaft community was its volunteer contributions, amazing amount of work that some people put in to write articles, bring news, upload/seed vods, write great strategy articles etc.
Imagine where we would be now if those people attempted to monetize their contributions.
It just defies the whole spirit of the community.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 14:18:25
January 05 2010 14:16 GMT
#18
I think this is getting a bit out of hand tbh. While it's cool to make a little money from teaching a game, you want to make it into a growing business. C'mon, it's Starcraft.

I think this is kind of stupid, you are not *that* good in all honesty. Don't make this into a way to pay for college or your daily life expenses, that's just greedy. The community is built on contribution and you just want to make a buck from bad players.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 05 2010 14:23 GMT
#19
On January 05 2010 20:59 BaltA wrote:
Do you help only Zerg players, because ur Zerg obviously, or do u know everything about every race?


There are other people who will teach you other races, its best to go with people who you are the same main race as.

In other news!!! I am now offering protoss lessons for C and bellow >_> ...jk
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 05 2010 14:37 GMT
#20
Hey Incontrol, I dunno if my lat problem was fixed yet but sometime next week can we try and see if it can work lol!
1 2 3 4 5 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 761
IndyStarCraft 244
ProTech83
BRAT_OK 54
MindelVK 38
EmSc Tv 21
CosmosSc2 19
Vindicta 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 584
Soulkey 310
Dewaltoss 152
ggaemo 127
firebathero 120
Dota 2
Gorgc10972
qojqva1702
420jenkins203
League of Legends
Grubby2751
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0889
Mew2King103
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu378
Khaldor265
Other Games
gofns12849
FrodaN888
Beastyqt771
fl0m651
WinterStarcraft619
B2W.Neo363
uThermal302
ToD239
elazer128
XaKoH 112
ArmadaUGS69
JuggernautJason61
ROOTCatZ59
UpATreeSC57
Pyrionflax41
Mlord12
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1025
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 21
EmSc2Tv 21
Other Games
angryscii3
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH305
• Reevou 18
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4314
• WagamamaTV547
League of Legends
• Jankos1822
Other Games
• imaqtpie1564
• Shiphtur335
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
15h 41m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 14h
INu's Battles
1d 15h
Percival vs Zoun
Cure vs Rogue
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs NightMare
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
INu's Battles
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.