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Noob goes SC2 - Part 3

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Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
September 16 2010 12:29 GMT
#1
Part 1
Part 2

After the vicious ferocious part 2, now I have 2 more games, so I decided to make another part. Just to ease my boredom.

Part 3 - The First Losses

Play this before going on further:



After my 3rd victory against the first Terran I faced, I decided to take my chances at 2 more games. My first opponent was a Terran who took the advantage of 2k hp destructible rocks and turtled himself all the fucking way. At that time, I was trying hard to destroy the rock, but all my efforts were in vain.

At the end of the game, I was unable to destroy the rock, and the guy rolled me when he came with battlecruisers and raped everything inside my base.

Replay

But, this game made me realize something: I have NO focus in my games. Only thing that I'm able to do is mass Zergling and some banelings and go wherever I can with them.

When I look at my stats in sc2replayed, in my all 4 games so far, I only used Zerglings, Drones, Overlords, Queens, Mutalisks and Banelings. No Hydras, Roaches, Corruptors, Ultralisks, Infestors and Brood Lords at all.

So, again my bad sides:

1- Too little unit diversity.
2- Not so good creep management.
3- No focus and strategy at all. I only have openings, not real strategies and build orders.
4- I couldn't cut drones at 16 and start a queen unlike 3rd game.
5- I am too fucking slow and my multitask just sucks.
6- I again suicided an overlord and stayed supply blocked for quite a good time.

My good sides:

I only have 5 bad sides, the rest of my play is fucking flawless.

So, before the game, I put up a strategy. Extractor before pool, fast lair into mutalisks, infestation pit right after 6 mutas finish, hive into ultras.

Play this before reading on:



And the next match was against a Protoss. I put up my strategy quite good until the infestation pit part. I was thinking of having 6 mutas and starting an infestation pit, but I attacked with my first 2 mutas and suicided them, then accidentally suicided the 3rd one, and near the end, I was unable to break the Protoss wall and ended up losing to a mass drop in my main.

Replay

And now, after analyzing the game in my mind, my additional bad sides are:

1- Details of my strat is insufficient. I just don't have a clue about timings of expansion, 2nd and later gas, a lot of things.
2- I never use upgrades. I should start using them.
3- I don't have a clue about how to defend vs air and drops.
4- I have hard times against players that don't suck.

But, there is 1 thing:

In the last game, my creep management was a lot better.

Part 4 will be like an interlude, so I have missions for Part 5:

1- Use more types of units. Play hydra-roach into ultralisks against a protoss. Win is not a clause.
2- Use infestors against a bio terran if faced.
3- Have at least 2-2 upgrades for a unit in a game.
4- Fill %40 of the map with creep in a game.
5- HAVE A SOLID STRAT.

*
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
Kanin
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
75 Posts
September 16 2010 13:01 GMT
#2
Are you going to be trying your placement matches soon?
*squeak* ^-^
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
September 16 2010 13:06 GMT
#3
On September 16 2010 22:01 Kanin wrote:
Are you going to be trying your placement matches soon?


Well, I'm actually thinking of finishing the practice league before placement matches because I have some challenges about practice league:

1- Win at least 40 games
2- Beat a Terran with Infestors and Banelings Banelings is completed.
3- Beat a Protoss using Ultralisks
4- Beat a Zerg using Roaches and Infestors.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
September 16 2010 14:31 GMT
#4
Read this only if you want to get better at the game. If you're just playing for fun dont bother to answer, just do whatever you want to do. ^_^

Also, hope you can understand my english.

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wow you're seriously overdoing everything. If you want to get better at starcraft just play a lot of games with one solid non-cheese build in every match-up. Getting to diamond is very easy once you get the basic macro down, from there on you can start practicing other builds like cheese and stuff.

If you played 1v1's as much as you analysed your stuff here you would probably 10x better than you are now, lol.

Also, i hope you were jk about this but if you weren't - you cant even feel the terran OP if you're not like 1000+ diamond, seriously. And even then inferior skill loses most of the games not the overpowerdness.

If you try to use a lot of different builds you're not comfortable with and try to achieve those useless challenges your progress will be very, very slow. Dont overanalyze, just check your replays and have a look at your idle larvae (and smack yourself if theres a lot ^_^) since good macro will be like 90% of your wins before diamond. (this is, of course, if you're playing solid builds not cheese builds.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 15:40:35
September 16 2010 15:39 GMT
#5
On September 16 2010 23:31 KasPra wrote:
Read this only if you want to get better at the game. If you're just playing for fun dont bother to answer, just do whatever you want to do. ^_^

Also, hope you can understand my english.

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wow you're seriously overdoing everything. If you want to get better at starcraft just play a lot of games with one solid non-cheese build in every match-up. Getting to diamond is very easy once you get the basic macro down, from there on you can start practicing other builds like cheese and stuff.

If you played 1v1's as much as you analysed your stuff here you would probably 10x better than you are now, lol.

Also, i hope you were jk about this but if you weren't - you cant even feel the terran OP if you're not like 1000+ diamond, seriously. And even then inferior skill loses most of the games not the overpowerdness.

If you try to use a lot of different builds you're not comfortable with and try to achieve those useless challenges your progress will be very, very slow. Dont overanalyze, just check your replays and have a look at your idle larvae (and smack yourself if theres a lot ^_^) since good macro will be like 90% of your wins before diamond. (this is, of course, if you're playing solid builds not cheese builds.


In part 2, I have my real answer to Terran OP thing (with a day[9] picture in the spoiler). In this game, T just won with a better strategy. And it was %50 map (or %40), and rest his own skill. If you're talking about the song, I put it because suspense is a fucking baller and as T steamrolled me, I wanted to put a T theme and that's the whole story of the song.

I think I have a decent macro. I never have too many larvae. But turning all of them into zerglings or drones don't just cut it. So, in that part, strategy and resource management come in handy.

And yes, you're right about all that macro issues. And Terran is not OP (at least for now).

EDIT: Thanks for the comment btw, I totally forgot that.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
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