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Bolivia419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 22:35:21
August 13 2009 22:33 GMT
#1

I got this article from: http://www.enough.org.uk

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?

We the richest fifth of the world's population already consume more than our fair share of the world's resources.

CONSUMERISM is a social and economic creed that encourages us to aspire to even more than that share, regardless of the consequences.

The USA alone, with only 6%
of the world's population,
consumes 30% of its
resources.


20% of the world's population consumes over 70% of its material resources, and own's over 80% of its wealth although this global elite includes people in almost every country, it is mainly concentrated in the Westernised, consumerist nations: the US. Canada, Western Europe, Saudi Arabia, Australia and Japan.

It is important to bear in mind that this elite does not simply consist of the super-rich strata with incomes of above half a Million pounds a year. It includes the majority of the citizens of these countries. As well as the isolated pockets of rich elites from traditionally poor nations such as India Ecuador Kenya etc.: in other words, the world's consumer class. [Global Excess] This same 20% does not exclusively grow, supply or create all of these resources - they are the product of the whole world's labour: and although we may receive the benefits of using these resources, and have control over their distribution, they are not necessarily ours to consume in the first place. In fact, in order for the elite to live at the standard it does, the majority have to go without... and this is one of the major (if not the major) causes of world poverty, albeit one that is largely ignored, unknown or denied.

'The plain fact is that we are
starving people, not
deliberately in the sense that
we want them to die, but
wilfully in the sense that we
prefer their death to our own
inconvenience."
Victor Gollancz

This blunt fact is in sharp contrast to our traditional western explanation of why the 'Third' World is so poor. For instance, we are very accustomed to the belief that there is a global shortage of food. This is simply not true. The world already produces enough grain alone to supply every single individual with over 2,500 calories per day: this figure does not even include fruit, groundnuts or root vegetables. In this sense the world cannot in any meaningful sense be said to be overpopulated. Asia, Africa, Latin America, Central America and Pacific Rim islands are often referred to as having too high a population. But few of the countries in these regions has a significantly higher population density than Britain, Japan, Germany or the Netherlands, where only a tiny percentage of the population is undernourished. The majority of impoverished countries have population densities far below these examples. Even Ethiopia, Mozambique and Bangladesh, countries seen as almost synonymous with overpopulation and scarcity, have the agricultural resources to feed their people.

What causes global hunger is not a shortage of resources, but the unequal distribution of those resources in favour of the rich. No solution to world poverty can ignore this basic fact: putting an end to it will inevitably involve a fairer distribution of the world's food, resources and wealth. This is not compatible with the consumerist creed of ever-increasing consumption.

"but the poor do not exist as
an act of destiny, their
existence is not politically
neutral or ethically innocent.
The poor are a by-product of
the system in which we live
and for which we are
responsible. The poor are
marginalised in our social and
cultural world. They are the
oppressed, the exploited, the
workers cheated of the fruits
of their work, and stripped of
their being as people. The
poverty of the poor is not an
appeal for generous action to
relieve it, but a demand for
the construction of a different
social order."
Gustavo Gutierrez, Practical
theology of liberation

Supporters of consumerist culture offer economic growth as a solution to world poverty. They propose that impoverished nations and individuals can eventually attain a standard of living similar to our own through the 'trickle down' of wealth creation. Whether you believe that this 'leakage' of wealth will take place or not, the argument is still fundamentally flawed because it ignores some very simple facts...

[Global Excess] It is the wealthy of the world who are responsible for polluting it. Manufacturing the quantities of goods that the consumerist lifestyle demands, transporting these goods, dispensing of their packaging and eventually the goods themselves, creates these high levels of environmentally destructive substances.

The United States, which has 6% of the world's population, uses 30% of the world's energy supply. 20% of the worlds population, (in other words its wealthy consumer class), is responsible for over 50% of its 'greenhouse effect' atmospheric pollutants, 90% of its ozone-depleting CFC gases, 96% of its radioactive waste... and so on.

No serious commentator environmental issues denies that the present levels of world pollution and rates of environmental degradation are a severe problem, and will need to be substantially curbed if we are to avoid irreversible damage to the eco-system .

A lot of attention (and even more lip-service) is being paid to the problem, and attempts to find more environmentally friendly and sustainable methods of industrial and economic activity are high on the agenda of many institutions, such as pressure groups and industry.

But almost all these solutions assume that the industrial and economic activities of the impoverished 80% of the world's population will remain at a low, and therefore less environmentally- damaging level. In doing this, they ignore the fact that IF the majority of the world's citizens are also to achieve a consumerist standard of living, (as would be their right) then all of the present levels of global pollution and waste are going to more than quadruple. If 20% of the world's population produce the current degree of harmful effects, then 100% of the world's population doing the same will produce 5 times this damage 5 x 20 is 5 x 20, no matter what your political or economic beliefs may be.

Juggernauts delivering enough
telephones for the Chinese
population to reach US levels
of phone ownership would
stretch nose-to-tail for 247
miles


Through the use of technological innovation and devices to curb pollution levels (eg catalytic converters, desulphurisation equipment, greater fuel efficiency and more efficient recycling) it may be possible to preserve and sustain a consumerist lifestyle for the few without endangering the environment of the many. But no amount of technology would be capable of bringing environmental damage under control if all of the world's citizens were to achieve a standard of living even remotely comparable to that of the consumer class.

'This is a problem and it is our
problem in the North... the
degradation of the earth and
threat of global warming
comes from the wealthy
minority who live largely in
the North [but] since we in
the North won't pay the real
cost of living as we do, we
look for an escape route.
Almost by tradition, we find it
in the South... we say that if
the South fits itself out with
refrigerators, cars and
televisions on the same scale
as the North, the pollution of
the planet will spiral upwards
out of control."
David Ransom, Nl magazine, no.230

The simple example of the car illustrates this point. Less than an eighth of the world's adult population own a car. This many cars (450 million vehicles) is already responsible for 13% of the global carbon emissions from the burning off fossil fuels, and a larger share of the production of acid rain. If every adult or family in the world owned a car, these emission levels would be beyond any technological solution. Some future fuel efficiency technology might possibly double or treble how far a car can travel on a gallon of fuel, but this would not be enough to bring the emission levels within safe limits. A fuel efficiency increase of twenty times the present rate would be needed to cope with a world wide car density similar to our own, and this is only to keep Pollution levels at the same rate as they are now, let alone reducing them . And a twenty- fold increase in petrol efficiency is beyond the laws of thermodynamics. Since the same mathematics applies to almost all other pollution producing consumer goods or practices, we are in effect faced with a simple choice.

"Measured in dollars, the
world's people have consumed.
as many goods and services
since 1950 as all the previous
generations put together'
WorldWatch, 1989


A: We continue to have a high standard of living and deny the rest of the rest of the world the opportunity to do the same. We then use green technology to bring the pollution we produce down to a level the biosphere can absorb without sustaining long-term damage,

or B: We 'allow' the majority to develop, and lower our standard of living, with every individual then living a lifestyle that produces no more than their 'share' of a sustainable global rate of pollution.

Option B is not compatible with our consumer culture, as long as that culture continues to tell us, 'More is always better.'


**
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 13 2009 22:39 GMT
#2
You're really into the whole consuming thing lately arent you.
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wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
August 13 2009 22:41 GMT
#3
why make two threads..
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 13 2009 22:42 GMT
#4
It isn't like there is a strangle hold on resources. China and South Africa (both considered downtrodden nations for a long time) have shown that is beyond possible to compete with the rest of the world for resources.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 13 2009 22:42 GMT
#5
Option B is not compatible with our consumer culture, as long as that culture continues to tell us, 'More is always better.'

I have no want or desire to lose my standard of living in the end.

I mean really... who would?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
August 13 2009 22:57 GMT
#6
source

copy paste articles.

create thread.

i believe even you can see that something is wrong here. please start the discussion off at least. post your opinion, why you support or condemn the article etc...
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 23:08:10
August 13 2009 23:07 GMT
#7
On August 14 2009 07:57 Etherone wrote:
source

copy paste articles.

create thread.

i believe even you can see that something is wrong here. please start the discussion off at least. post your opinion, why you support or condemn the article etc...

Well it's a blog...

Worse blogs have definitely been written copy pasted
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
August 13 2009 23:23 GMT
#8
Good Read
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 13 2009 23:29 GMT
#9
CAPS MORE! SO COOL I WANNA BE LIKE YOU.


+ Show Spoiler +
was actually a good read though
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
August 13 2009 23:32 GMT
#10
On August 14 2009 07:42 Jayme wrote:
Option B is not compatible with our consumer culture, as long as that culture continues to tell us, 'More is always better.'

I have no want or desire to lose my standard of living in the end.

I mean really... who would?


I think that the point of the article is that we won't give up some luxuries to help others or w.e
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
August 13 2009 23:46 GMT
#11
On August 14 2009 08:07 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 07:57 Etherone wrote:
source

copy paste articles.

create thread.

i believe even you can see that something is wrong here. please start the discussion off at least. post your opinion, why you support or condemn the article etc...

Well it's a blog...

Worse blogs have definitely been written copy pasted



surely even blogs have to have some standard of quality?

wait is chill on vacation? because that would explain everything
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
August 13 2009 23:53 GMT
#12
Isn't the op like in the 70% group which owns 5%?
passby20
Profile Joined July 2008
United States47 Posts
August 13 2009 23:59 GMT
#13
Misleading statistics are misleading. That is all.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 14 2009 00:34 GMT
#14
Giving away food causes more problems. People need to find a means to obtain it.
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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
August 14 2009 00:45 GMT
#15
apparently one wasn't enough...
ggyo...
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
August 14 2009 01:33 GMT
#16
want is a survival instinct, we can't stop wanting...
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 14 2009 01:56 GMT
#17
I don't want to share, but I think we can afford to be less wasteful. Like individually wrapped toothpicks. What moron came up with that idea? I mean, it doesn't even improve the quality of my life. Why do hamburgers ordered within a fast food joint come wrapped?

There are lots of little things we could already do that no one would even miss.
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merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
August 14 2009 02:01 GMT
#18
blah blah blah capitalism is bad eugenics etc etc
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 14 2009 02:18 GMT
#19
everyone knows america is greedy
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
August 14 2009 02:29 GMT
#20
90% of all politically motivated statistics are 100% bias
good vibes only
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
August 14 2009 03:33 GMT
#21
On August 14 2009 11:18 BookTwo wrote:
everyone knows america is greedy


yeah and many ones wanna live in the USA.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
August 14 2009 03:38 GMT
#22
people always want more, its the curse of humanity.
hi
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
August 14 2009 03:42 GMT
#23
i still fail to understand how everyone thinks the economy is a zero sum game.
if everything was zero sum then we would still be on basis with a society where everybody is throwing rocks.

and if it wasn't for consumerism and the resulting capitalism, there is no way that you would be in the condition to complain about what other people do.

its bad that people consume too much
its worse that people criticize others for it
its even worse that those same people consume too much as well
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imabossdude
Profile Joined July 2009
United States23 Posts
August 14 2009 03:50 GMT
#24
everyone knows america is greedy


Nice label. You must not be from here and must be an expert on the subject.
(puts BookTwo in "dunce" category in brain)
talk to corporate...
nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
August 14 2009 04:07 GMT
#25
It is good to consider the issues raised in this thread. I do think this all warrants some thought and some concern whether or not you become an environmentalist or anti-consumerist. It is good to be informed.

For those who do care about these issues (probably not many on this forum - not many that have replied anyway), the important question becomes: what do you do about it? You can change your own consumption patterns and attempt to live a fair and environmentally conscious lifestyle. You can work to become part of the establishment and try to bring changes (probably small changes, but perhaps ultimately much larger scale) to society, or you can embrace a life of activism (perhaps joining organizations that work for fairness and environmental issues). Or, as many people do, you can complain about things and be bitter about it all (I think there can be some satisfaction in this last approach as well!).

I've determined for myself what changes I'm willing to make, and what changes I'm not. This is always subject to change.

- I embrace vegetarianism (environmental reasons)
- I am sterilized and child-free (overpopulation concerns as well as personal preference)
- I bicycle for most transportation (I love it)
- I don't shower (I clean myself, but use little water)
- I embrace a light work lifestyle, which entails less income and less consumption (I just don't much care for work, and value time and freedom over money).

On the other hand, I love using computers. I do own a car and use it, just not much. I like movies. I like having access to many books. I play videogames. I have a TV - but I don't much care for most programming. I use climate control in my apartment. I eat out at restaurants. Etc...

I'm presently not working to gain power in the establishment. I'm presently not part of any activist organization.

I am definitely of the global elite. My lifestyle is not fair, and perhaps not sustainable. I'm open to making changes in the future, but I'm also content with where I am now.

Just some thoughts....



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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
August 14 2009 04:08 GMT
#26
Enjoy your communism.
In all seriousness though while capitalism may be flawed at least it is better than everyone starving to death through an even more inefficient system.
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nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
August 14 2009 04:14 GMT
#27
For people who make this an issue of capitalism versus communism: this is kind of a non-sequitor - it doesn't make sense. It is possible to be highly concerned about global equality and the environment and still embrace capitalism. As a capitalist, the emphasis becomes persuasion; convincing people to embrace a different value system (more sustainable choices, perhaps less consumption, etc), and consequently influencing people to make economic decisions that reflect that value system.

Automatically associating capitalism with gross inequality and bad environmental practices is a mistake.

Capitalism does try to cater, to varying degrees, to people who are concerned about the environment and equality. Thus we have fair-trade products, and all manner of products geared towards sustainability. Is capitalism good enough? Will it succeed in these kinds of endeavors? I don't know.
Email (use instead of PM): InkMeister at aol dot com AIM: InkMeister
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 14 2009 04:22 GMT
#28
Yep. Evers wants something. Then they get it, they want more.
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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
August 14 2009 04:30 GMT
#29
The corruption in the leadership of the Third World countries is much more a reason as to why they are starving than our over consumption of goods.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
August 14 2009 04:53 GMT
#30
There's an important question of morality that few of these people who discuss the tragedy of poverty bring up: what is in old money?

People who are born into money are scoffed at by these global-equality-advocates because they did not have to work for it and they don't "produce" material goods. However, someone worked for it; the money came from somewhere, and that person died with the satisfaction of knowing that it would stay in the hands of those they loved.
The capitalist incentive makes the system fundamentally more productive and distribution will severely constrain human productivity. Moreover, it is unethical to "restart" the lives and histories of the world's population because you think things didnt shake out fairly.

Green concerns are bullshit, btw.
You quoted:
"But no amount of technology would be capable of bringing environmental damage under control if all of the world's citizens were to achieve a standard of living even remotely comparable to that of the consumer class," and then gave an example based on today's technology and resource distribution. I'm glad the article's author got in his time machine, skipped ahead 50 years, and checked things out on the techno side; I would have never guessed that the exponential progress of science in solving the world's problems just stopped in a couple years.


Now Inky, consider the following:
- I embrace vegetarianism (environmental reasons)
Do you think the marginal contribution your meat consumption to the incredibly huge waste caused by meat consumption outweighs a million other life choices you could make? Maybe if you worked a little bit more your marginal contribution to the advancement of society might accelerate the progress of science just enough to save a small animal. You're free to be a veggie if you like it, but environmental reasons are crap.
- I am sterilized and child-free (overpopulation concerns as well as personal preference)
Do you think that the negative marginal utility brought in by the existence of another human being in your US, TL using environment (or ANY environment at this stage in the development of humanity) could possibly come close to the positive marginal utility of another human life? I don't care about your personal preference; just don't pretend overpopulation is a concern.

With the utility analysis I'm not trying to say that it's possible to know everything and make the right decisions, just saying that the life decisions people make in the name of environmentalism are often shots in the dark as to how much they really help the environment/how much they matter and more influenced by socialization/culture than anything else.
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