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HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?

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00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 22:35:21
August 13 2009 22:33 GMT
#1

I got this article from: http://www.enough.org.uk

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?

We the richest fifth of the world's population already consume more than our fair share of the world's resources.

CONSUMERISM is a social and economic creed that encourages us to aspire to even more than that share, regardless of the consequences.

The USA alone, with only 6%
of the world's population,
consumes 30% of its
resources.


20% of the world's population consumes over 70% of its material resources, and own's over 80% of its wealth although this global elite includes people in almost every country, it is mainly concentrated in the Westernised, consumerist nations: the US. Canada, Western Europe, Saudi Arabia, Australia and Japan.

It is important to bear in mind that this elite does not simply consist of the super-rich strata with incomes of above half a Million pounds a year. It includes the majority of the citizens of these countries. As well as the isolated pockets of rich elites from traditionally poor nations such as India Ecuador Kenya etc.: in other words, the world's consumer class. [Global Excess] This same 20% does not exclusively grow, supply or create all of these resources - they are the product of the whole world's labour: and although we may receive the benefits of using these resources, and have control over their distribution, they are not necessarily ours to consume in the first place. In fact, in order for the elite to live at the standard it does, the majority have to go without... and this is one of the major (if not the major) causes of world poverty, albeit one that is largely ignored, unknown or denied.

'The plain fact is that we are
starving people, not
deliberately in the sense that
we want them to die, but
wilfully in the sense that we
prefer their death to our own
inconvenience."
Victor Gollancz

This blunt fact is in sharp contrast to our traditional western explanation of why the 'Third' World is so poor. For instance, we are very accustomed to the belief that there is a global shortage of food. This is simply not true. The world already produces enough grain alone to supply every single individual with over 2,500 calories per day: this figure does not even include fruit, groundnuts or root vegetables. In this sense the world cannot in any meaningful sense be said to be overpopulated. Asia, Africa, Latin America, Central America and Pacific Rim islands are often referred to as having too high a population. But few of the countries in these regions has a significantly higher population density than Britain, Japan, Germany or the Netherlands, where only a tiny percentage of the population is undernourished. The majority of impoverished countries have population densities far below these examples. Even Ethiopia, Mozambique and Bangladesh, countries seen as almost synonymous with overpopulation and scarcity, have the agricultural resources to feed their people.

What causes global hunger is not a shortage of resources, but the unequal distribution of those resources in favour of the rich. No solution to world poverty can ignore this basic fact: putting an end to it will inevitably involve a fairer distribution of the world's food, resources and wealth. This is not compatible with the consumerist creed of ever-increasing consumption.

"but the poor do not exist as
an act of destiny, their
existence is not politically
neutral or ethically innocent.
The poor are a by-product of
the system in which we live
and for which we are
responsible. The poor are
marginalised in our social and
cultural world. They are the
oppressed, the exploited, the
workers cheated of the fruits
of their work, and stripped of
their being as people. The
poverty of the poor is not an
appeal for generous action to
relieve it, but a demand for
the construction of a different
social order."
Gustavo Gutierrez, Practical
theology of liberation

Supporters of consumerist culture offer economic growth as a solution to world poverty. They propose that impoverished nations and individuals can eventually attain a standard of living similar to our own through the 'trickle down' of wealth creation. Whether you believe that this 'leakage' of wealth will take place or not, the argument is still fundamentally flawed because it ignores some very simple facts...

[Global Excess] It is the wealthy of the world who are responsible for polluting it. Manufacturing the quantities of goods that the consumerist lifestyle demands, transporting these goods, dispensing of their packaging and eventually the goods themselves, creates these high levels of environmentally destructive substances.

The United States, which has 6% of the world's population, uses 30% of the world's energy supply. 20% of the worlds population, (in other words its wealthy consumer class), is responsible for over 50% of its 'greenhouse effect' atmospheric pollutants, 90% of its ozone-depleting CFC gases, 96% of its radioactive waste... and so on.

No serious commentator environmental issues denies that the present levels of world pollution and rates of environmental degradation are a severe problem, and will need to be substantially curbed if we are to avoid irreversible damage to the eco-system .

A lot of attention (and even more lip-service) is being paid to the problem, and attempts to find more environmentally friendly and sustainable methods of industrial and economic activity are high on the agenda of many institutions, such as pressure groups and industry.

But almost all these solutions assume that the industrial and economic activities of the impoverished 80% of the world's population will remain at a low, and therefore less environmentally- damaging level. In doing this, they ignore the fact that IF the majority of the world's citizens are also to achieve a consumerist standard of living, (as would be their right) then all of the present levels of global pollution and waste are going to more than quadruple. If 20% of the world's population produce the current degree of harmful effects, then 100% of the world's population doing the same will produce 5 times this damage 5 x 20 is 5 x 20, no matter what your political or economic beliefs may be.

Juggernauts delivering enough
telephones for the Chinese
population to reach US levels
of phone ownership would
stretch nose-to-tail for 247
miles


Through the use of technological innovation and devices to curb pollution levels (eg catalytic converters, desulphurisation equipment, greater fuel efficiency and more efficient recycling) it may be possible to preserve and sustain a consumerist lifestyle for the few without endangering the environment of the many. But no amount of technology would be capable of bringing environmental damage under control if all of the world's citizens were to achieve a standard of living even remotely comparable to that of the consumer class.

'This is a problem and it is our
problem in the North... the
degradation of the earth and
threat of global warming
comes from the wealthy
minority who live largely in
the North [but] since we in
the North won't pay the real
cost of living as we do, we
look for an escape route.
Almost by tradition, we find it
in the South... we say that if
the South fits itself out with
refrigerators, cars and
televisions on the same scale
as the North, the pollution of
the planet will spiral upwards
out of control."
David Ransom, Nl magazine, no.230

The simple example of the car illustrates this point. Less than an eighth of the world's adult population own a car. This many cars (450 million vehicles) is already responsible for 13% of the global carbon emissions from the burning off fossil fuels, and a larger share of the production of acid rain. If every adult or family in the world owned a car, these emission levels would be beyond any technological solution. Some future fuel efficiency technology might possibly double or treble how far a car can travel on a gallon of fuel, but this would not be enough to bring the emission levels within safe limits. A fuel efficiency increase of twenty times the present rate would be needed to cope with a world wide car density similar to our own, and this is only to keep Pollution levels at the same rate as they are now, let alone reducing them . And a twenty- fold increase in petrol efficiency is beyond the laws of thermodynamics. Since the same mathematics applies to almost all other pollution producing consumer goods or practices, we are in effect faced with a simple choice.

"Measured in dollars, the
world's people have consumed.
as many goods and services
since 1950 as all the previous
generations put together'
WorldWatch, 1989


A: We continue to have a high standard of living and deny the rest of the rest of the world the opportunity to do the same. We then use green technology to bring the pollution we produce down to a level the biosphere can absorb without sustaining long-term damage,

or B: We 'allow' the majority to develop, and lower our standard of living, with every individual then living a lifestyle that produces no more than their 'share' of a sustainable global rate of pollution.

Option B is not compatible with our consumer culture, as long as that culture continues to tell us, 'More is always better.'


**
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 13 2009 22:39 GMT
#2
You're really into the whole consuming thing lately arent you.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
August 13 2009 22:41 GMT
#3
why make two threads..
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
August 13 2009 22:42 GMT
#4
It isn't like there is a strangle hold on resources. China and South Africa (both considered downtrodden nations for a long time) have shown that is beyond possible to compete with the rest of the world for resources.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 13 2009 22:42 GMT
#5
Option B is not compatible with our consumer culture, as long as that culture continues to tell us, 'More is always better.'

I have no want or desire to lose my standard of living in the end.

I mean really... who would?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
August 13 2009 22:57 GMT
#6
source

copy paste articles.

create thread.

i believe even you can see that something is wrong here. please start the discussion off at least. post your opinion, why you support or condemn the article etc...
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 23:08:10
August 13 2009 23:07 GMT
#7
On August 14 2009 07:57 Etherone wrote:
source

copy paste articles.

create thread.

i believe even you can see that something is wrong here. please start the discussion off at least. post your opinion, why you support or condemn the article etc...

Well it's a blog...

Worse blogs have definitely been written copy pasted
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
August 13 2009 23:23 GMT
#8
Good Read
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 13 2009 23:29 GMT
#9
CAPS MORE! SO COOL I WANNA BE LIKE YOU.


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was actually a good read though
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11565 Posts
August 13 2009 23:32 GMT
#10
On August 14 2009 07:42 Jayme wrote:
Option B is not compatible with our consumer culture, as long as that culture continues to tell us, 'More is always better.'

I have no want or desire to lose my standard of living in the end.

I mean really... who would?


I think that the point of the article is that we won't give up some luxuries to help others or w.e
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
August 13 2009 23:46 GMT
#11
On August 14 2009 08:07 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 07:57 Etherone wrote:
source

copy paste articles.

create thread.

i believe even you can see that something is wrong here. please start the discussion off at least. post your opinion, why you support or condemn the article etc...

Well it's a blog...

Worse blogs have definitely been written copy pasted



surely even blogs have to have some standard of quality?

wait is chill on vacation? because that would explain everything
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
August 13 2009 23:53 GMT
#12
Isn't the op like in the 70% group which owns 5%?
passby20
Profile Joined July 2008
United States47 Posts
August 13 2009 23:59 GMT
#13
Misleading statistics are misleading. That is all.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 14 2009 00:34 GMT
#14
Giving away food causes more problems. People need to find a means to obtain it.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
August 14 2009 00:45 GMT
#15
apparently one wasn't enough...
ggyo...
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
August 14 2009 01:33 GMT
#16
want is a survival instinct, we can't stop wanting...
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 14 2009 01:56 GMT
#17
I don't want to share, but I think we can afford to be less wasteful. Like individually wrapped toothpicks. What moron came up with that idea? I mean, it doesn't even improve the quality of my life. Why do hamburgers ordered within a fast food joint come wrapped?

There are lots of little things we could already do that no one would even miss.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
August 14 2009 02:01 GMT
#18
blah blah blah capitalism is bad eugenics etc etc
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 14 2009 02:18 GMT
#19
everyone knows america is greedy
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
August 14 2009 02:29 GMT
#20
90% of all politically motivated statistics are 100% bias
good vibes only
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