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Can someone help me choose between Toss and Zerg

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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 08 2009 15:06 GMT
#1
I played an opponent of relatively same skill I think. I know there are lots of mistakes at my end. I am just learning how to play the game (coming from Warcraft 3). As you'll see there's tons of macro to be learned.

Can someone advise me on what is the better race to play out with Protoss or Zerg. I have attached my replays for the same and any tips that you notice that I am really bad and have to work on would be much appreciated.

Zerg: http://vgcache.com/replays/1618
Protoss: http://vgcache.com/replays/1619

(I have no interest in playing Terran heh). Thanks in advance for anyone who bothers to help me here. Cheers.

Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
August 08 2009 15:11 GMT
#2
Protoss is the easiest starting race. It's not "the best" or "overpowered," but almost everyone agrees that certain things make it much easier to play than the other two when you're just starting.
yB.TeH
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany419 Posts
August 08 2009 15:11 GMT
#3
so you're only interested in cheap and easy victories?
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
August 08 2009 15:15 GMT
#4
pick your race based on preference, not which one is "easier" to play.

more importantly, pick it based on match ups, go through each race's match ups and see which ones you like

for example i stopped playing as T because i absolutely loathe TvT. i dont like playing zerg because I feel ZvT is slightly imbalanced. so now I play P. admittedly, it's mostly because they're the only race with a mirror match up that I find somewhat interesting and fun to play (compared to TvT and ZvZ)
ahkey
Profile Joined August 2009
United States39 Posts
August 08 2009 15:19 GMT
#5
On August 09 2009 00:11 Qeet wrote:
so you're only interested in cheap and easy victories?


Way to troll. Terran can be plenty cheap, and it certainly isn't that hard.

To OP: Go with what suits you best. Think about it as you play; which set of units do you feel the most comfortable controlling and with which race do you get the most satisfaction after a victory (and conversely the most insight after a loss). What usually happens to me is I play one race, win some, then go on a losing streak prompting me to switch races; rinse and repeat. But... don't be like me. It's not a good habit.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 08 2009 15:27 GMT
#6
Well, since this is a game, just choose the race you enjoy playing the most. What's more satisfying, all the protoss spells, the potency of the terran ball, or the swarming of zerglings?
Jaedong
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
August 08 2009 15:31 GMT
#7
On August 09 2009 00:15 lazz wrote:
pick your race based on preference, not which one is "easier" to play.

more importantly, pick it based on match ups, go through each race's match ups and see which ones you like

for example i stopped playing as T because i absolutely loathe TvT. i dont like playing zerg because I feel ZvT is slightly imbalanced. so now I play P. admittedly, it's mostly because they're the only race with a mirror match up that I find somewhat interesting and fun to play (compared to TvT and ZvZ)



In addition, you could base it on what matchups you enjoy watching the most?
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 08 2009 15:35 GMT
#8
if you like units with strong heatlh and armor, take P.
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
August 08 2009 15:38 GMT
#9
protoss is probably most like your warcraft 3 races, with big expensive units with high HP and some "hero" types like reavers or arbiters
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
August 08 2009 15:59 GMT
#10
in before 1a2a3a

i dont know if its really that important to pick a race so early? I started out with Z but now i'm playing more about the matchups than a race. Like i enjoy ZvP/ZvT, but PvZ and PvP is also fun (i suck at T). And to get good at a race you will have to play the other races to get a better understanding of timings anyways.

TL;DR maybe just play for the matchup and decide on a race later
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 08 2009 16:08 GMT
#11
well protoss is just mainly, k getting better economy and rolling u.
zerg is mainly, k taking a lot of bases, making sure i don't die, rolling u with mass ultraling at end.
ORRRR k, gonna slowly take bases, gonna pwn ur units with muta micro and good lurker ling flanks.gonna upgrade and completely pwn u when i get defilers out.
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
August 08 2009 16:17 GMT
#12
Race pick and get the best of both worlds
Trucy Wright is hot
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
August 08 2009 16:25 GMT
#13
Unless you plan on becoming a pro gamer, there's absolutely no reason not to play both races, as long as you find that more enjoyable.
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 08 2009 16:31 GMT
#14
Thanks for the advice. I tend to watch more of Protoss and cheer for them, so I think ill play with them first and then see how things go with other matchups later on.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 08 2009 17:01 GMT
#15
On August 09 2009 00:19 ahkey wrote:
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On August 09 2009 00:11 Qeet wrote:
so you're only interested in cheap and easy victories?


Way to troll. Terran can be plenty cheap, and it certainly isn't that hard.


I lol'ed
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RyuriaL
Profile Joined November 2008
Singapore78 Posts
August 08 2009 17:11 GMT
#16
Make a poll? i'd vote toss XD
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
August 08 2009 17:17 GMT
#17
Go with toss!
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
August 08 2009 17:24 GMT
#18
Toss is easier as I find it requires less micro (at a scrub D/D+ level). As a toss you usually just macro up and try to get good position before attacking. Storm is really the only spell you use. As a zerg you need to micro to dodge storms, hop lurkers, use defilers against terran, micro scourge. Keep in mind, I'm not covering everything and this is just the basics.

Nonetheless, zerg is just more fun imo! Nothing feels better than seeing cracklings destroy a protoss base or lurkers killing an army of m&ms. Just find the one you like to play more.
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
August 08 2009 17:37 GMT
#19
What's your APM?

Protoss has the smallest APM requirement out of all 3 races. Zerg requires at least 200 I would say, to be good.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
August 08 2009 18:03 GMT
#20
I personally did through the story mode. Also, pay attention to how you feel when you play each race. Each race has a feel to it, a different kind of flow. If you can find that out, you will not need to ask anyone. Or you can just race pick.
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