• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:38
CET 02:38
KST 10:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League64Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
[Recap] 0-6 Defeat for Mong's Team Bot on ladder Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. Battle.net abbreviations list
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8767 users

wacraft 2 campaign.

Blogs > Ftrunkz
Post a Reply
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 25 2009 13:06 GMT
#1
So the last 5 hours i chucked in my old wc2 tides of darkness cd and played thru the orc campaign, I passed the orc campaign, and im 90% sure but just checking, the orc campaign isnt at all lore right? And the human campaign is? Also, ive never played thru the expansion nor do i have it, is that worth playing? Also, what campaign in that one is consider lore?

Let me know =] thanks.

@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 25 2009 13:21 GMT
#2
They are both lore I think, just that only one of the ending is cannon.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 13:22:37
July 25 2009 13:22 GMT
#3
By 'lore' I assume you mean 'canon'.

All of Warcraft is butchered. Warcraft has its own story, Warcraft 2 has its own story, and Warcraft 3 + WoW have its own story. They sort of follow each other, but every time Blizzard makes a sequel they arbitrarily ignore certain parts of the story or pretend like certain other parts did exist for their own purposes.

Just one of the reasons I hated WC3 and WoW, WC2 was so awesome.
♞
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 25 2009 13:50 GMT
#4
oh yeah, i mean part of whatever is considered the story that follows onto the expansion and onto wc3.

Btw, i thought WoW was pretty accurate to Wc3 except for the random dranei fuckup that happened?
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 13:57:23
July 25 2009 13:52 GMT
#5
The only way to incorporate the orc campain into warcraft history is if you count only part of it which could have happened before the human campain. AFAIK Dalaran and Lorderon never fell to the orcs during the second war.

Beyond the dark portal is even more weird because in the orc campain you recapture Alexstraza the dragon queen although the artifact that imprisoned her, the Demon soul, was destroyed when she was rescued the first time and the red dragons were only to loyal to orcs because they had their queen. But on the other hand Nez'zhul had to find the Book of Mediev to open up all those gates in Draenor.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 25 2009 13:59 GMT
#6
Also, does anyone know what the go is with gul'dan opening the daemons tomb thing, and why does he have all the daemons around him when u kill him in the orc 3rd last level? from wc3 i thought he died in sargaras tomb because of sargaras, so obviously the last 3 levels of orc campaign, none are considered wc history?
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 00:30:12
July 26 2009 00:28 GMT
#7
On July 25 2009 22:22 Chuiu wrote:
By 'lore' I assume you mean 'canon'.

All of Warcraft is butchered. Warcraft has its own story, Warcraft 2 has its own story, and Warcraft 3 + WoW have its own story. They sort of follow each other, but every time Blizzard makes a sequel they arbitrarily ignore certain parts of the story or pretend like certain other parts did exist for their own purposes.

Just one of the reasons I hated WC3 and WoW, WC2 was so awesome.

Shit like this happens with any game really, Just check out Capcom's Final Fight and SF series. Shit is absurrddddddddddd.

The Common theme is that stuff that happens in old games that is contradicted later was "just a dream", a "what if" scenario, or just "overridden by sequel".
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 26 2009 02:52 GMT
#8
I doubt anyone will check this again, but after reading the wow site, it seems that everything in the orc campaign of wc2 happened except the last 2 levels (killing dalaran and lorderon.) the third last level sort of happened.... The horde did fight against gul'dan and the clans he was with, defeating them, but it wasnt the horde who killed gul'dan, it was daemons in sargaras' tomb or some shit...
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 26 2009 04:21 GMT
#9
On July 25 2009 22:59 Ftrunkz wrote:
Also, does anyone know what the go is with gul'dan opening the daemons tomb thing, and why does he have all the daemons around him when u kill him in the orc 3rd last level? from wc3 i thought he died in sargaras tomb because of sargaras, so obviously the last 3 levels of orc campaign, none are considered wc history?

That was changed later on. Much of the WC1 and WC2 plots got changed by WC3 or WoW. Guldan got mauled to death by demons after he opened the tomb and went in.

In WC1, most of the Orc Campaign, and its ending is canon. Only parts of the human campaign were. In WC2, just about all of the Human Campaign is cannon. Alot of the Orc Campaign is too, except towards the end. The Orcs did go into Quelthalas or w/e, they did attack Lordaeron itself, its just eventually, when Guldan betrays the Horde, the Alliance starts a counter attack and ends up winning.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
08:40
Best Games of SC
Serral vs Neeb
Reynor vs Clem
Maru vs GgMaChine
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft524
RuFF_SC2 155
SpeCial 117
FoxeR 0
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 31
Hyuk 23
Mong 22
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm196
canceldota129
LuMiX3
League of Legends
JimRising 728
Other Games
summit1g10098
C9.Mang0349
ToD158
Trikslyr78
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2034
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 59
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 32
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21541
League of Legends
• Scarra1313
Other Games
• imaqtpie988
Upcoming Events
FEL
8h 22m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 22m
Replay Cast
21h 22m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 10h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.