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kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
July 24 2009 03:09 GMT
#1
Lately, I've had to wake up really early.

What's happening is I will feel immense wave of tiredness @ 4-5PM. If I decide to take a nap, I Usually sleep 2-3 hours, and consequently, can't fall asleep till 2-3AM.

However, if I resist, I'll stay tired until like 10-11 in which case I fall dead asleep...Only to wake up @ 2-3AM. I'm bright awake @ 2-3AM...i feel like I could start my day, but I tell myself to go back to sleep. What ends up happening is I feel really tired @ 7:00AM (when I actually have to wake up.)

I wouldn't mind this if I could stop myself from waking up @ 2-3AM. It's like my body is treating me going to sleep @ 11PM (which I never do) as a nap.

Anyway to tell/trick my body into doing a fullnight's sleep when I go to sleep @ 11?

thanks

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food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
July 24 2009 03:10 GMT
#2
LOL HEY THERE CUTIE
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 24 2009 03:14 GMT
#3
well, you can force yourself to stay up until midnight or so with the correct dosage of caffeine..
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TiMbeRWoLf
Profile Joined June 2007
United States30 Posts
July 24 2009 03:14 GMT
#4
caffeine overdose might do the trick
or a forced all nighter...
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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
July 24 2009 03:17 GMT
#5
i actually have this problem... i was alone in the house for a week (aka nobody would wake me up) and i would get out of bed at like 6pm and sleep at 3am. i "fixed" it by pulling and all nighter and sleeping 11pm. i was exhausted by then cause i had been awake for around 17 hours.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16993 Posts
July 24 2009 03:28 GMT
#6
I'd suggest waking up around 7:00AM or so, doing some exercise (go out, run, play frisbee with friends, etc.), get some reading done, eat big meals, and try to stay awake until 11:00. Go to bed then, and you probably won't wake up until the right time next morning
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 24 2009 03:29 GMT
#7
This sounds like my jetlag. What I used to do was sleep everyday 3-4 AM, wake up at 8AM. 2-3 hour nap at 5-6 PM, and repeat. it worked for school, but it was annoying. Probably your best bet is to stay up until 9-10 PM to try any normalize it. From there, you sleep at relatively normal hours, and you can always push it back further after. But I don't advise you to increase your sleep time by 7-8 hours in one night. You could use caffeine, but I normally don't when adjusting my sleep schedule. Slow and steady works the best, but it is, as you may have guessed, slow. A bit faster may screw you up a little the next day, but if you can try and man it out without napping, then go ahead.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 24 2009 03:36 GMT
#8
On July 24 2009 12:09 kdog3683 wrote:
Lately, I've had to wake up really early.

What's happening is I will feel immense wave of tiredness @ 4-5PM. If I decide to take a nap, I Usually sleep 2-3 hours, and consequently, can't fall asleep till 2-3AM.

However, if I resist, I'll stay tired until like 10-11 in which case I fall dead asleep...Only to wake up @ 2-3AM. I'm bright awake @ 2-3AM...i feel like I could start my day, but I tell myself to go back to sleep. What ends up happening is I feel really tired @ 7:00AM (when I actually have to wake up.)

I wouldn't mind this if I could stop myself from waking up @ 2-3AM. It's like my body is treating me going to sleep @ 11PM (which I never do) as a nap.

Anyway to tell/trick my body into doing a fullnight's sleep when I go to sleep @ 11?

thanks


Why stop yourself from waking up at 2-3 AM?

If you don't have anything stopping you from going to bed when you get tired later and you wake up at 2-3AM totally refreshed I don't really see the problem
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
July 24 2009 03:37 GMT
#9
when you get tired in the afternoon eat some carbs and you will feel so much better. I used to be this way too, it SUCKS.
yes.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
July 24 2009 03:47 GMT
#10
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guide sleep&t=t&f=all&u=&gb=date

This will solve most sleep problems. After reading it, pm me with questions if necessary and I'll try to give you specific advice.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
July 24 2009 04:13 GMT
#11
Have you tried exercising an hour or two before sleeping?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 04:32:42
July 24 2009 04:32 GMT
#12
On July 24 2009 13:13 dcberkeley wrote:
Have you tried exercising an hour or two before sleeping?

This might work for some people but I think it's generally a bad idea. I can't recall offhand but I think the rule of thumb is 3 hours or more between exercise and bedtime.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
July 24 2009 04:33 GMT
#13
On July 24 2009 12:47 micronesia wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guide sleep&t=t&f=all&u=&gb=date

This will solve most sleep problems. After reading it, pm me with questions if necessary and I'll try to give you specific advice.


Did you even read my post lol.

How much more specific can I be?
Multiply your efforts.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
July 24 2009 04:38 GMT
#14
On July 24 2009 13:33 kdog3683 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 12:47 micronesia wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guide sleep&t=t&f=all&u=&gb=date

This will solve most sleep problems. After reading it, pm me with questions if necessary and I'll try to give you specific advice.


Did you even read my post lol.

How much more specific can I be?

Did you even read my guide? I will gladly help you to the best of my ability wherever the guide falls short... but that doesn't seem to be what has happened.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 04:52:22
July 24 2009 04:39 GMT
#15
It's not hard.

Don't eat a heavy meal before you go to sleep.

Be active during the day seriously if you never move you ass it's doubt full you'll get tired although refrain from doing so 3+ hours before you would go to sleep you body needs to relax

relaxation techniques will help you out if you know them. if so great if not oh well.

Darken the room the darker the better. Believe me when i camp out or go to my aunts cabin it gets pitch black you'll find it hard to stay up for more then 30 min with no lights.

Have a bed time, seriously regular sleeping habits make you sleep very well.

You only really need 6-7 Hours for a good sleep. 8-9 hours is more or less bull unless you are a child as studies shown that most people that sleep 6-7 hours regularly tend to actually be more healthy people.

Avoid naps.

Avoid drinking alcohol or caffeine. they are fine during the day but not so near your bed time 3+ hours etc like working out.

They also recommend if you have trouble going to sleep after you followed all that when you are in bed wait 30 mins if that doesn't work go read a bookfor 20 mins and try again. Don't need the tv up to keep you active.

Also if you have to wake up at a certain time a lot. Make that your daily wake up time have the alarm on always, soon you beat the alarm to wake up.
I don't use AIM/MSN/ etc stop asking...
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
July 24 2009 06:21 GMT
#16
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin

Take melatonin. It will restore your brain to feel sleepy in darkness and alert in sunlight. Force yourself to stay awake until 9-10PM, take 1-1.5mg, sleep somewhere where sunlight will come in during the morning and your cycle should be corrected within one dose.

For my job I travel constantly so I need melatonin to sync my to the local patterns despite leaping 14 hours. Though years of this life I will swear by it.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 06:46:42
July 24 2009 06:45 GMT
#17
On July 24 2009 15:21 sk` wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin

Take melatonin. It will restore your brain to feel sleepy in darkness and alert in sunlight. Force yourself to stay awake until 9-10PM, take 1-1.5mg, sleep somewhere where sunlight will come in during the morning and your cycle should be corrected within one dose.

For my job I travel constantly so I need melatonin to sync my to the local patterns despite leaping 14 hours. Though years of this life I will swear by it.

I would not take Melatonin without being instructed to by a doctor. From what I've read (which is admittedly a bit outdated with regard to drugs) most of what people think they know about Melatonin for treatment of sleep problems is wrong... so just be careful.

I wouldn't be surprised if the mental cue Melatonin creates for you is strong enough to put you to sleep when you think the drug is what's doing it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
July 24 2009 06:56 GMT
#18
Micro:
So you're going to tell him to avoid it with no current data or personal experience and claim a hormone your own brain releases to trigger your own rhythms is a placebo? Glad my brain is giving me that placebo.

Sheesh, at least read the wiki before you post. The only dangerous point to someone your brain is supposed to naturally release is that doing it for too long trains your brain it doesn't need to. Thus, I only use it to cure jetlag or periods of insomnia.
www.pureesports.com
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 07:02:58
July 24 2009 07:02 GMT
#19
On July 24 2009 15:56 sk` wrote:
Micro:
So you're going to tell him to avoid it with no current data or personal experience and claim a hormone your own brain releases to trigger your own rhythms is a placebo? Glad my brain is giving me that placebo.

Sheesh, at least read the wiki before you post. The only dangerous point to someone your brain is supposed to naturally release is that doing it for too long trains your brain it doesn't need to. Thus, I only use it to cure jetlag or periods of insomnia.

The book I read specifically told me about Melatonin (Say Goodnight to Insomnia). It is a very good book and I always encourage people to read it. I'm not just pulling this advice out of my ass, but if you can link to research which is more recent than the book I read other than Wikipedia then I am willing to change my opinion on the matter. Also, I did look at what Wikipedia had to say.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
July 24 2009 07:24 GMT
#20
Micro:
If you're actually read on the topic why not source data or references instead of just saying "zomfg, be scuurred!"?

Either way, he can do what he wants, I'm only going to speak from experience as a person who's been traveling heavy for roughly 13 years. I don't know what's to fear from taking someone one's body makes naturally - especially in moderation.
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