WoW vs SC part 2

Phyre

United States1288 Posts

June 24 2009 01:15 GMT

So some of you might remember my post a little while back about the amount of skill required to play SC vs WoW here. Well, 2 months after that post the games finally happened.

I said reps would be posted so here they are, enjoy:

I'm not amazing at this game by any means, I'm like the low end of D/D- so I hope you're not expecting insane play on my part. I'm the T by the way.

He said he wants a rematch after he gets some more practice. He'll most likely be switching to P for our rematch he said. Take what you will from that. ^_~

VIB

Brazil3567 Posts

June 24 2009 01:20 GMT

I don't wanna watch it, but I wanna know who won? ^^

Weird that you actually found someone who thinks skill means something on wow. Most of the wow players actually agree that skill is irrelevant to succeed there.

Husky

United States3362 Posts

June 24 2009 01:22 GMT

I have reached 2000+ in 3 seasons on WoW (have played for 4 years) and I can tell you WoW is catered to kids and moms. Anyone who thinks different is lying to themselves. Starcraft will always require more skill than WoW ever will.

Its a simple fact.

VIB

Brazil3567 Posts

June 24 2009 01:34 GMT

HuskyTheHusky, do you still play? Every single one of my gladiator friends, all of them, already quit the game or quit PvP. One of them who is a PvE'er today, now tells me that those guys that we used to mock of how bad they were. Those that we would make gold selling arena points to on S2~S3. Nowadays those same guys are the ones with 2500'ish rating and gladiator tags. lol

Husky

United States3362 Posts

June 24 2009 02:07 GMT

On June 24 2009 10:34 VIB wrote:
HuskyTheHusky, do you still play? Every single one of my gladiator friends, all of them, already quit the game or quit PvP. One of them who is a PvE'er today, now tells me that those guys that we used to mock of how bad they were. Those that we would make gold selling arena points to on S2~S3. Nowadays those same guys are the ones with 2500'ish rating and gladiator tags. lol

I quit last month. I finally realized after 4 years that Blizzard simply does not know the correct way to balance WoW pvp. If you followed the last couple of patches hunters were at the bottom, got buffed and shot to the top, then got nerfed and dropped to the bottom again. It made me realize that WoW 100% revolves around what buffs/nerfs you get and has very little to do with actual skill.

When warriors are good I face roll to 2100 easily, when warriors are bad its almost impossible to hold 1600 (see: WotLK release).

wrags

United States379 Posts

June 24 2009 02:19 GMT

On June 24 2009 11:07 HuskyTheHusky wrote:

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they control the 'meta' cycle so that the highest level of play always stays at an entry level

it's more of a money thing, they definitely know what they're doing

Elite00fm

United States548 Posts

June 24 2009 03:08 GMT

God warcraft is so easy, I was one of the top PvE hunters on my server for the longest time. You want to know what I did in raids to put out the highest amount of damage per second out of 25-40 people?

This is a secret that can only be accomplished by the most ELITE (note my name) gamers on earth, most of you scrubs should not even be able to look upon this secret

WARNING: MAY BE TOO 1337 FOR YOUR EYES, GET READY

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I spammed a 1 button macro that I created while watching TV

StarCraft is so far ahead of WoW in terms of skill required it isn't even funny.

So many incredibly stupid people play WoW, and since it is so easy, people think they are some amazingly talented gosu or something. Being in the top 5% of WoW players is about as hard as hitting the middle hole in ski ball at chucky cheese (aka put in a bit of practice and don't be completely retarded and you will be able to do it perfectly).

Also, I have found out from experience that if you meet someone in real life that says they are good at starcraft and will destroy you, there is a 99.9% chance they are rocking 20 apm, have never heard of iccup or tl.net, and think the protoss computer is a strong opponent.

If you are able to keep a rating of 900+ or better on iccup you should be able to win 99% of the games you play against them since the skill level (well not relative to the rest of the community) is actually pretty high at the D level.

gettodaroflchoppa

104 Posts

June 24 2009 03:46 GMT

On June 24 2009 12:08 Elite00fm wrote:
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I spammed a 1 button macro that I created while watching TV

Mind sharing with us what the macro contained?

pinenamu

United States770 Posts

June 24 2009 03:55 GMT

i once had a friend that said dota needed more skill than bw. i was like wat, you control one unit compared to an army, how is that harder? then he went to that even d2 needed more skill than sc. at this point i was like -_- and just gave up.

let them think what they want to think XD

MrHoon

10183 Posts

June 24 2009 03:56 GMT

#10

On June 24 2009 12:46 gettodaroflchoppa wrote:

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Mind sharing with us what the macro contained?

hes a hunter, so the 1 button should've been the shot rotation almost every raiding hunter has

Elite00fm

United States548 Posts

June 24 2009 04:37 GMT

#11

On June 24 2009 12:56 MrHoon wrote:

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hes a hunter, so the 1 button should've been the shot rotation almost every raiding hunter has

yeah it was just a shot rotation

JieXian

Malaysia4677 Posts

June 24 2009 05:05 GMT

#12

My WoW playing bro admits SC is too stressful and hard. That's why he doesn't play it.

So sad for me

I'm soo tempted to link this blog to the WoW forums XD

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

June 24 2009 05:17 GMT

#13

don't bother, WoW isn't even really a game. it's more of a social club.

stroggos

New Zealand1543 Posts

June 24 2009 05:19 GMT

#14

nice, that WoW player is a giant newbie to the world of competitive gaming.

both games require an infinite amount of skill. It's impossible to control 200 supply worth of units in starcraft perfectly, and it's impossible to have .01s reaction times in wow to play perfectly.

If you want an expert on this subject, ask Stork- he plays starcraft and wow at a high level. (no wonder hes been slumping in sc lately)

most A level starcraft players will suck at WoW when they start playing and most 2500+ rated WoW players will suck at starcraft when they start playing, hence this argument over skill will never be ended.

0xDEADBEEF

Germany1235 Posts

June 24 2009 05:22 GMT

#15

SC is only hard because of the speed and the horrible UI, and the resulting mechanical requirements for the players. Most people don't care about that and don't like putting effort into becoming faster at button mashing.

WoW is not a comparison - it's a fun game, not a competitive one. It's never and can't ever be balanced. This being played competitively is just a result of so many players putting so much time into this game, not a result of it being suited well for competitive play.

FyRe_DragOn

Canada2057 Posts

June 24 2009 05:42 GMT

#16

On June 24 2009 14:22 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
SC is only hard because of the speed and the horrible UI, and the resulting mechanical requirements for the players. Most people don't care about that and don't like putting effort into becoming faster at button mashing.

WoW is not a comparison - it's a fun game, not a competitive one. It's never and can't ever be balanced. This being played competitively is just a result of so many players putting so much time into this game, not a result of it being suited well for competitive play.

ya im sure all the builds and timings are incredibly easy to figure out and put to good use..i cant believe u just used botton mashing to describe startcraft -_-

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

June 24 2009 05:56 GMT

#17

On June 24 2009 14:19 stroggos wrote:
nice, that WoW player is a giant newbie to the world of competitive gaming.

both games require an infinite amount of skill. It's impossible to control 200 supply worth of units in starcraft perfectly, and it's impossible to have .01s reaction times in wow to play perfectly.

If you want an expert on this subject, ask Stork- he plays starcraft and wow at a high level. (no wonder hes been slumping in sc lately)

most A level starcraft players will suck at WoW when they start playing and most 2500+ rated WoW players will suck at starcraft when they start playing, hence this argument over skill will never be ended.

huh? every A level starcraft player would be just fine in world of warcraft what are you talking about

you do realize its harder to reach C on iccup than it is to figure out what spells do what in wow right

DrTJEckleburg

United States1080 Posts

June 24 2009 06:13 GMT

#18

Most A level starcraft players will suck at WoW because they'll realize it's stupid to be "worse" than someone because you don't spend 56459085690 hours farming stupid shit like gold, doing boring ass raids, or farming the pvp system(notice everything is fucking farming). It's almost always gear related, I can easily tell if I'm leagues past someone in skill but he just has a bunch of SSC gear or some shit.

Being good at WoW PVP or PVE is so fucking easy it's not even funny, when my friends and I played we had shitty ass gear and still did good in BG/Arena. Raiding was a waste and I regret it, although there was some cool people I met in the guild.