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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-21 18:57:37
April 21 2009 16:47 GMT
#1
So some coworkers of mine were having a discussion revolving around what is and isn't twitch game play and "Coworker 1" proposed that WoW was twitch gaming. Debatable, I didn't get into it. Then it veered towards saying WoW was as "twitch" as fighting games. Again, debatable so I stayed out of it. The kicker came when they started getting into how intense and how much skill a game requires and Coworker 1 stated that WoW requires more skill and is more intense then Starcraft.

I got Coworker 1 to agree to play me in SC, he says he's pretty good.



Always a chance that this guy is some Flash-like wrecking machine hustling poor D players like myself. I'm inclined to believe that is not the case though. Reps will be posted when this happens. I'm giddy just thinking about it.

*****
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
DarkShadowz
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden321 Posts
April 21 2009 16:51 GMT
#2
Pwn the noob please
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
April 21 2009 16:52 GMT
#3
nice, this should be good.

Alot of the top WoW players are old starcraft players.
hi
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 21 2009 16:53 GMT
#4
He's probably setting you up. It's actually NonY.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 21 2009 16:54 GMT
#5
they force themselves to believe that nonsense to give meaning to the waste of a life they know that WoW is
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 21 2009 16:56 GMT
#6
WoW PvP is a joke and always have been. Despite optimism at Lich King's release that they might fix the balance of classes in arena, things are just as skewed, if not more so, than during TBC. The fact that someone might consider something this imbalanced as heavily skill-based seriously amazes me. You just can't have the same level of depth if one setup is significantly more powerful than others.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
April 21 2009 16:58 GMT
#7
On April 22 2009 01:56 TheYango wrote:
WoW PvP is a joke and always have been. Despite optimism at Lich King's release that they might fix the balance of classes in arena, things are just as skewed, if not more so, than during TBC. The fact that someone might consider something this imbalanced as heavily skill-based seriously amazes me. You just can't have the same level of depth if one setup is significantly more powerful than others.


Then it's similar to starcraft.

Cause PvP is a joke in this game too.
And all is illuminated.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 21 2009 17:01 GMT
#8
On April 22 2009 01:58 freelander wrote:
Cause PvP is a joke in this game too.

Har har.
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Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
April 21 2009 17:02 GMT
#9
On April 22 2009 01:54 Zelniq wrote:
they force themselves to believe that nonsense to give meaning to the waste of a life they know that WoW is


wow this is word for word what i was about to say. mmorpgs are like the perfect example of human behavior control.

also, make that noob eat his words. WoW is just a grinding machine.
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 21 2009 17:06 GMT
#10
lol i play both and of course sc has a lot more skill than wow... but wow the only thing is that takes some what some skill is what to use to counter and your timing.
Life?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 21 2009 17:08 GMT
#11
SC takes alot more skill, but WoW is arguably more twitch.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
April 21 2009 17:08 GMT
#12
On April 22 2009 01:58 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2009 01:56 TheYango wrote:
WoW PvP is a joke and always have been. Despite optimism at Lich King's release that they might fix the balance of classes in arena, things are just as skewed, if not more so, than during TBC. The fact that someone might consider something this imbalanced as heavily skill-based seriously amazes me. You just can't have the same level of depth if one setup is significantly more powerful than others.


Then it's similar to starcraft.

Cause PvP is a joke in this game too.

how so? i find pvp to be pretty intense
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
April 21 2009 17:08 GMT
#13
WoW PvP is not even balanced. It's really hard to design classes that are meant to play a certain role in a team in PvE but also compete against eachother in PvP. So it's not balanced. Besides that, Blizzard made wow more newb-friendly with each expansion they released so LK PvP doesn't even require that much skill. Fast reflexes and a decent knowledge of spell combos and debuffs is enough to be really good.

Then again, with the amount of experience I have as a starcraft player, I find it really easy to spot the obvious lack of balance in PvP but some really don't. In most cases, trying to explain to people that play other games that starcraft is hard proves to be quite a lost cause and I've learned to accept that they just can't understand.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
April 21 2009 17:12 GMT
#14
a lot of the top players in everything are old or failed starcraft players, we are the elite.
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 17:19:08
April 21 2009 17:13 GMT
#15
SC requires alot more raw skill at top level, but WoW requires more twitch and periferal vision.

Also WoW is hardly a grind, Takes about a week to get to level 80, then its working your way up the ladder from there. WoW just sucks because it's imbalanced.
hi
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 21 2009 17:16 GMT
#16
On April 22 2009 02:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Then again, with the amount of experience I have as a starcraft player, I find it really easy to spot the obvious lack of balance in PvP but some really don't. In most cases, trying to explain to people that play other games that starcraft is hard proves to be quite a lost cause and I've learned to accept that they just can't understand.

There's not much to "spot". Some classes are ubiquitous at the higher skill levels of PvP, while some aren't seen at all. How is that not obvious?
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
April 21 2009 17:23 GMT
#17
I've been getting into WoW PvP, and I don't think it's as easy as some people say. I mean, there are some classes that might be a bit easier to play than others, but some classes can get pretty technical.

For example, I started out playing as a Rogue, but had to re-roll because I could not for the life of me figure out combo points, when to use evis, cheap shot, etc. Then you have to know how to sneak up on people, when to run/hide, appear, etc. It was actually pretty fun (and I'm sure I could've learned it in time, but isn't that just like SC?) So, I re-rolled a Warlock, and it seems a bit less technical, but still pretty hectic.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
April 21 2009 17:32 GMT
#18
On April 22 2009 02:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2009 02:08 FirstBorn wrote:
Then again, with the amount of experience I have as a starcraft player, I find it really easy to spot the obvious lack of balance in PvP but some really don't. In most cases, trying to explain to people that play other games that starcraft is hard proves to be quite a lost cause and I've learned to accept that they just can't understand.

There's not much to "spot". Some classes are ubiquitous at the higher skill levels of PvP, while some aren't seen at all. How is that not obvious?


People still claim it requiers skill and that it's intense. Means it's not that obvious to them.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
April 21 2009 17:35 GMT
#19
WoW pvp was ok in s02 actually atleast over 2100p 5v5.
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daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
April 21 2009 17:42 GMT
#20
if he actually thinks wow requires more skill then SC then there is a 0% chance that he is any good at starcraft, and you will crush him easily. Or he could just be trolling you
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