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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 30 2009 05:46 GMT
#1
I've been busy with school past months, but I've recently tried to get back into playing more. I ventured out into the D level in the korean timezone and thought I'd be climbing easily since I was B+ high last season.

I had no idea of what was ahead of me!

All my 5 first games were difficult as fuck, + Show Spoiler +
even though I won them all.


Here's my favourite http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=9724.

Watch it please, it's a pretty interesting 45 min PvP game on colosseum.

My macro might have been a bit rusty since I recently came back from inactivity, but fuck, how can anyone be so good at D level with 17 - 21 stats. You must be kidding me. Did D become B in just a few weeks? Or did my B+ become D in just a few weeks?

A guy on tlnet pmed me for teacher advice, but I'm not even sure that I'm qualified anymore.

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I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
March 30 2009 05:52 GMT
#2
B+ non-korean = D korean, lol
blabberrrrr
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 30 2009 06:03 GMT
#3
On March 30 2009 14:52 blabber wrote:
B+ non-korean = D korean, lol


But I played mostly on korean timezone at the B ranks too and it's like the D level is as difficult now.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
March 30 2009 06:06 GMT
#4
It appears that the game has changed. Or people got better while you were gone that's a possibility
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11577 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 06:09:57
March 30 2009 06:07 GMT
#5
I used to be C/C+ a few months ago, and i just hit C- with 20-8. Doesn't seem that difficult.

Although my PvP games were kinda close. I see a lot of dt rushes on destination, so I just make sure I get obs early, then it's pretty much an easy win, after their dt's do absolutely no damage, and they are behind unit count by having mostly slow zealots vs reaver/goon
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
March 30 2009 06:09 GMT
#6
cmon everything util c+ aint that difiicult
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 06:26:52
March 30 2009 06:22 GMT
#7
I wouldn't say that I'm much worse now than before, and iccup level has probably not increased that much in just two months. I'm just amazed of how good game sense (ESPECIALLY in late game) some of those guys have at D. It's like they are really experienced. He kept expanding, countering my unit mix, good army control and a lot better macro than me, haha.

He only lost because he started recalling out of frustration for not being able to break my front. He also might have made too many probes, I believe he was 200/200 most of the time in lategame, while I was usually around 130/200.
All in all, it was pretty fun game, packed with arbiter against DA action and a lot of intense encounters. It made me want to start playing actively again. I miss massgaming.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
March 30 2009 06:24 GMT
#8
Does this mean you'll have more time to 1hat muta xiberia? :o
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 30 2009 06:27 GMT
#9
On March 30 2009 15:24 Harem wrote:
Does this mean you'll have more time to 1hat muta xiberia? :o


yeah sure, bring it on suckers!

I'll challenge anyone who says 1 hatch muta is bad.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
March 30 2009 06:32 GMT
#10
I challenge you Shauni!
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 30 2009 06:48 GMT
#11
1 hatch muta sucks.

(of course I'm just saying that to get to play some more pvp's with you; I still remember some awesome 1 hatch muta games from Yarnc).

At this point I'd say ICCup is a complete crapshoot. You can run up against almost anybody and against people who have played anybody so who knows what'll happen. When you get some more games in things should average out. That game was probably a combination of rust on your part and the other guy being better at pvp/the style that game played out than his record would imply.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 30 2009 07:42 GMT
#12
On March 30 2009 15:48 maareek wrote:
1 hatch muta sucks.

(of course I'm just saying that to get to play some more pvp's with you; I still remember some awesome 1 hatch muta games from Yarnc).

At this point I'd say ICCup is a complete crapshoot. You can run up against almost anybody and against people who have played anybody so who knows what'll happen. When you get some more games in things should average out. That game was probably a combination of rust on your part and the other guy being better at pvp/the style that game played out than his record would imply.


I'll try to hang around op irc (if it's still active) on iccup more with my Get.Shauni account if people really want to play chobo me.

I'd also be happy to hear some comments from the people who watched it about the replay here.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 11:43:03
March 30 2009 11:42 GMT
#13
Other than people generally seeming to have refined their all-in builds I haven't really noticed any surge in skill.

Hell. I'm even doing better with my off races than my main race. I think mostly because I play so safe with terran and all these morons keep 10/15 gating, fast DT:ing, fast roboing to no avail...
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 30 2009 12:00 GMT
#14
On March 30 2009 20:42 LaLuSh wrote:
Other than people generally seeming to have refined their all-in builds I haven't really noticed any surge in skill.

Hell. I'm even doing better with my off races than my main race. I think mostly because I play so safe with terran and all these morons keep 10/15 gating, fast DT:ing, fast roboing to no avail...


I agree, this season may even be easier than last season lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-30 12:35:19
March 30 2009 12:07 GMT
#15
On March 30 2009 21:00 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2009 20:42 LaLuSh wrote:
Other than people generally seeming to have refined their all-in builds I haven't really noticed any surge in skill.

Hell. I'm even doing better with my off races than my main race. I think mostly because I play so safe with terran and all these morons keep 10/15 gating, fast DT:ing, fast roboing to no avail...


I agree, this season may even be easier than last season lol


It certainly is not. Though I doubt there's too much difference at lower levels

Oh and if you're floating enough minerals to buy 140 psi in zealots and you're not near maxed, your opponents might seem a bit harder than they actually are. Very sweet DA usage though.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
March 30 2009 12:21 GMT
#16
this season is damn insane, the first month hasnt finished and already the whole front page is A- and its spilling over onto the second page, that happened near the end last season, god looks like this season the whole front page will be A+
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
March 30 2009 14:18 GMT
#17
nice to see shauni back!
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
March 30 2009 14:40 GMT
#18
Same thing here o_O
I knew this was coming though. lol
Use it or lose it
Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
March 31 2009 03:11 GMT
#19
Maybe its just my imagination, but it seems like at the D level there's a lot of more one trick ponies than before. When I first started it seemed like a lot more people had a solid, standard game, but now everybody will do weird cheesy builds, and once it fails, they just fall apart.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
March 31 2009 03:21 GMT
#20
You probably just played difficult opponents. I have really good stats ATM and you are a far, far, far better player.
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