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Jin
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 07:47:27
March 26 2009 07:42 GMT
#1
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Poll: Is the statement 'I don't like dating Caucasian girls' racist?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote):

Please give a reason.

My opinion is that this statement only implies personal preference whereas racism states something derogatory about a specific race.

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ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
March 26 2009 07:49 GMT
#2
no. it's personal preference. That said it's probably something a closet racist would decide/say.
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Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
March 26 2009 07:50 GMT
#3
It sounds better if you say something like "I dont find soandso girls attractive"
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inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
March 26 2009 07:55 GMT
#4
It was to do with your taste and attractions. It is not descrimination because no one has the right to be liked by you. I don't see it as racism.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
March 26 2009 07:55 GMT
#5
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Poll: Is the statement, "I don't like making black friends" racist?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
March 26 2009 07:55 GMT
#6
Define racist first.

In physics lab, we used a device called a "discriminator". It literally discriminated a voltage into either being true or false. Discrimination is not inherently a good thing or bad thing, its just literally distinguishing something.
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Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:01:14
March 26 2009 07:59 GMT
#7
I agree with Kuja900. The statement in the OP begs the question "Why don't you like dating Caucasian girls?" It could be due to personal preference, but it could also be for socioeconomic, racist, or other reasons. I think the latter statement implies more of a personal preference as to biological reasons, which may (or may not) be more clear of possible racist thoughts.

Edit: Added 'or.' The 'latter statement' refers to the one in Kuja900's post.
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
March 26 2009 08:07 GMT
#8
imo, it's racist regardless of the scale

if you're setting ultimatums to something abstracted you are looking for excuses for being intolerant
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 26 2009 08:08 GMT
#9
not by default, but it depends on the reasons really, that statement isnt specific enough to be racist or not racist
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 26 2009 08:08 GMT
#10
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Can someone explain how this is racist,
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But not this?

I mean of course whether it is preference or not it's not something you need to go around saying, because I don't find either of them racist.

If the original poll was 'Is the statement "I don't like dating Black girls' racist?', would you consider that racist? It's not any different than saying Caucasian girls in terms of racism. So assuming that the statement "I don't like dating Black girls" is NOT racist, then how is saying "I don't like making Black friends" any different than "I don't like dating Black girls"? Seriously... I don't get it. It doesn't make sense. It's like when the word "black" is mentioned everyone goes "omg i dun wanna be racist, i better agree that that is a racist statement". Can everyone please get the hell over the fact that saying someone is black is not racist??? No one thinks it is racist to call a Caucasian guy white, but so many people say it is racist to call an African-American guy black.

fuck

/rant.
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fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
March 26 2009 08:14 GMT
#11
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

So I'd say no.
TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
March 26 2009 08:17 GMT
#12
On March 26 2009 17:08 Grobyc wrote:
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Can someone explain how this is racist,
[image loading]

But not this?

I mean of course whether it is preference or not it's not something you need to go around saying, because I don't find either of them racist.

If the original poll was 'Is the statement "I don't like dating Black girls' racist?', would you consider that racist? It's not any different than saying Caucasian girls in terms of racism. So assuming that the statement "I don't like dating Black girls" is NOT racist, then how is saying "I don't like making Black friends" any different than "I don't like dating Black girls"? Seriously... I don't get it. It doesn't make sense. It's like when the word "black" is mentioned everyone goes "omg i dun wanna be racist, i better agree that that is a racist statement". Can everyone please get the hell over the fact that saying someone is black is not racist??? No one thinks it is racist to call a Caucasian guy white, but so many people say it is racist to call an African-American guy black.

fuck

/rant.

My thoughts exactly... Seems some people are inconsistent.
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Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:20:28
March 26 2009 08:18 GMT
#13
Well, both statements are indicative a rather shallow view of ethnic groups as a whole, but neither is racist per se. The friend question seems more racist because we're used to friendship being based on intangible qualities, personality, and all that shit. Romantic relationships, on the other hand, are allowed to be more shallow. Or we're under less of an expectation to overcome personal quirks just to date someone. Or something.

To Grobyc's point, I honestly didn't even notice that one was referring to black people, and one to caucasians, whiteys, whatever, until I read your post. I think the discrepancy is due to the relationship rather than anybody's innate fear of appearing racist by not liking black people.
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
March 26 2009 08:20 GMT
#14
I don't think both of those statements are racist because none of them implies that the person saying them prefers the opposite ONLY because of race. And besides Caucasian is not a race.

If I say: I don't like being friend with black people in my case if would mean that I don't like their culture. Not that I think they are all retarded or bad people because their skin color is black/brown/purple whatever it actually is.
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TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:26:15
March 26 2009 08:25 GMT
#15
On March 26 2009 17:20 hymn wrote:
I don't think both of those statements are racist because none of them implies that the person saying them prefers the opposite ONLY because of race. And besides Caucasian is not a race.


I think you're off on this a bit.



"none of them implies that the person saying them prefers the opposite ONLY because of race"

Then what does the generalization "caucasians" mean? They're referring to them by race, meaning they feel something about the race itself is inadequate.

Saying that I don't want to date white girls, but really meaning white girls who are brunettes, then I wouldn't just say "white girls" I'd say "white brunettes"

The statement mentions only race, so thinking it's anything but race seems silly and illogical to me.




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Also, about the idea that one is geared towards a romantic relationship, while the other just friendship, I think is a good point, and a possible explanation for the varied results.
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:33:46
March 26 2009 08:27 GMT
#16
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 26 2009 08:39 GMT
#17
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
March 26 2009 08:40 GMT
#18
@TaP.Nuada: I see your point. But as far as I know: People referred to as Caucasian are those of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia. So if someone actually says that he doesn't like dating women from this type I can't find anything racist based only on that statement. I mean if he elaborates and explains that he finds all the Caucasian women dumb and dirty and stupid and thinks they are thieves and sub-human - ok, that's racist...

Like I would never actually date an Asian looking girl. That's because I don't find their face structure attractive. I don't think they're ugly or stupid or not fun people to interact with, don't get me wrong, they're just not my type. Does that make me a racist? I don't think it does.

So if someone says he doesn't like Caucasian women and wouldn't date one cause of perfectly normal reasons I can't find that racist, only this statement is not enough to claim him as a racist.
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 26 2009 08:43 GMT
#19
On March 26 2009 16:55 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
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Poll: Is the statement, "I don't like making black friends" racist?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


lol, nice response to OP.

I suppose dating is more of a personal choice, but being friends with someone or at least acting cordially should be between everyone. That is why one is racist and the other may not be seen as racist.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:44:12
March 26 2009 08:43 GMT
#20
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:


you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.
.



To say all races look the same on the outside(and lets be honest, what we're implicating here is based off looks) is not smart, it is political correctness gone horrible wrong. If you're going to sit here and tell me Caucasian girls look the same as Ebony girls, you're loony.
If the person in question says they're not having sex with them because they think they're beneath them, then that is racist.

Example.
I'd have sex with an Asian girl.
I would not have sex with a Hispanic girl.

Is that racist? No, I'm making a broad statement without knowing a girl in question based off personal background of just not finding Hispanic girls attractive at all.
It is no different then if someone said, oh well, I prefer blondes rather then brunettes.

That person might pre-judge a person based off personal background first, but I doubt it is going to run their life forever if it is in fact an appearance based choice.
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
March 26 2009 08:45 GMT
#21
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist


And you imply that those statements could not possibly mean something like: I don't date white women cause I don't find their hair, their body structure, their lips, cheeks, noses, eyes, tits and asses attractive?

That's like saying I don't have sex with males cause they're males. From what you say I might think you're discriminating half the world's population based on sex and you're a sexist. That's just ridiculous... There are just things you find attractive and things you don't. It's not discrimination, it's just the way it is.
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SickTighT
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
March 26 2009 08:47 GMT
#22
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


No it isn't

Not 'dating' a particular race is by no means racist, however saying that you wouldn't like to become friends with any particular race is. For example (well I'm engaged so this is a bad example lol) I don't date black women, I just don't want too, but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't consider them friends of mine, much the same reason that I don't date obese people. I've nothing against them and sure I am friends with people who are, I just would rather not date someone who is.

So if I were to follow your school of thought. If you were to say, "I'd never have sex with a man, but I'm not homophobic." You yourself would be a hyprocrite?

This is what I very much dislike about the Political Correctness of today's outspoken nature. You can't have individuality anymore without someone calling you a racist/cross-burner/etc based on silly things like people you prefer to date and not the things that matter like "I respect them as people."

The only reason racism is still around today is the people like you that harp on it in this way. I'm still curious as to why most people don't just look at skin color another variable in today's modern world. I enjoy people of all races, nationalities, sexual oreintation and physcial builds, but because I'd never date a black woman, a gay man, or an obese woman I'm racist/homophobic/insensitive? There is a line between personal preference and any of those. I believe you've found it (and crossed it).

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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 09:11:11
March 26 2009 08:52 GMT
#23
On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to


no you don't and i didn't say that, but if you sated you don't get attracted to black women, I.E because they're black, not only is that a racist statement you are being racist.

Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 26 2009 08:52 GMT
#24
On March 26 2009 17:18 Lucktar wrote:
To Grobyc's point, I honestly didn't even notice that one was referring to black people, and one to caucasians, whiteys, whatever, until I read your post. I think the discrepancy is due to the relationship rather than anybody's innate fear of appearing racist by not liking black people.

Yes I can see how the relationship has an effect as well, but then that basically is saying this it is okay to not want to date a black person, but not okay to not enjoy making friends with them. Now while some people say that is what is being agreed here, most people say it is being shallow and rude(even discriminatory in a way) to judge whether or not you would date someone based on their looks. So it isn't racist to not want to date a black person, but then you are being shallow. It's like either way you have people hating you for that fact.

When it comes to relationships, how is being racist(from what some people seem to think that's what the situation here is) that much worse than being shallow?

Both are rude, both are discriminatory IMO, but hell, if you don't go around saying it, and that is your own personal judgment, I don't see a major problem with it. It's more of a preference(this is where it leads back to preference, mentioned in the OP), than offending people. If they are offended by things like that, then they need to grow up, and realize that everywhere you go, walking down the street, sitting in a class at school, people look at you and think to themselves "He has ugly hair, he is too short, he is Asian for me, etc". People don't usually have a problem with that, so how is this preference racist in a large enough way where it will offend someone?

Of course if you go around telling people that you don't want to date someone because of their colour they might take offense to it, but not wanting to date someone or be friends with someone because of their skin, and keeping it to yourself is considered more preference IMO then racism.

So I guess it all depends on what you consider racism.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
March 26 2009 08:52 GMT
#25
none of them are racist wtf. if you don't like making friends with black people doesn't mean you don't like them. you just don't want to be friends with them. what's wrong with that? and who would never wana make friends with a black person anyway? theyre the most interesting people on the planet. FLAVOR FLAAAAAAAVV

its not racist.
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ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
March 26 2009 08:54 GMT
#26
comparing the two questions is like comparing diamonds to nickels. they're both stones but it's ok to discriminate against diamonds since they're loved by everybody to begin with, that's why people voted no. whereas nickels (black girls) are undervalued/stereotyped against
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:57:42
March 26 2009 08:55 GMT
#27
On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to


[/QUOTE]

you don't decide, our society does, and our society says black girls are ugly
maybe you should try to fix this?
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 08:59:31
March 26 2009 08:58 GMT
#28
On March 26 2009 17:55 ItchReliever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to


you don't decide, our society does, and our society says black girls are ugly

wtf... Now that is racist.

You are just agreeing with society, not even basing it on your own thoughts. If you don't find black girls attractive that isn't racist, but not dating one because everyone else says they are ugly regardless of your own opinion is just conforming and being racist.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 09:10:48
March 26 2009 09:02 GMT
#29
On March 26 2009 17:52 Etherone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to


no you don't and i didn't say that, but if you sated you don't get attracted to black women, I.E because they're black, not only is that a racist statement you are being a racist.



this is funny
if I say I don't get attracted to black women
There is no other reasoning but because they are black. This is simple logic. I only told one property(is this the right word? -_-) of them, so that must be it.

It's like I don't get attracted to woman who are higher than me. I only said one thing about them, they are highet than me, so that must be the reason I wouldn't date them.

Your post was somewhat illogical for me
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 26 2009 09:04 GMT
#30
On March 26 2009 17:55 ItchReliever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to


you don't decide, our society does, and our society says black girls are ugly
maybe you should try to fix this?


what?
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
March 26 2009 09:10 GMT
#31
On March 26 2009 17:47 SickTighT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


No it isn't

Not 'dating' a particular race is by no means racist, however saying that you wouldn't like to become friends with any particular race is. For example (well I'm engaged so this is a bad example lol) I don't date black women, I just don't want too, but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't consider them friends of mine, much the same reason that I don't date obese people. I've nothing against them and sure I am friends with people who are, I just would rather not date someone who is.

So if I were to follow your school of thought. If you were to say, "I'd never have sex with a man, but I'm not homophobic." You yourself would be a hyprocrite?

This is what I very much dislike about the Political Correctness of today's outspoken nature. You can't have individuality anymore without someone calling you a racist/cross-burner/etc based on silly things like people you prefer to date and not the things that matter like "I respect them as people."

The only reason racism is still around today is the people like you that harp on it in this way. I'm still curious as to why most people don't just look at skin color another variable in today's modern world. I enjoy people of all races, nationalities, sexual oreintation and physcial builds, but because I'd never date a black woman, a gay man, or an obese woman I'm racist/homophobic/insensitive? There is a line between personal preference and any of those. I believe you've found it (and crossed it).




*sigh*. alright i will try and explain this in the most direct way possible.

First, I adopt the term racist as is commonly used and reffed to in my society, and the meaning it holds in said society, is: a discrimination based on race.

Second, if you won't date a black person because they are black, buddy you are discriminating based on race, and thus being racist

Third, homophobia is an illogical aversion to homosexuals, if gay people freak you out you are homophobic, if you are straight, and thus do not date gay people you are not.

Fourth, racism is still around not because of people like me, but because of ignorance.

A lot of people have discriminatory preferences, it is until People like YOU who are ignorant and insecure who can't see that as a simple "variable in today's modern world" and have to see it as derogatory, that this will exist.

I for example would not date the obese, well not only because they're obese but also because of a few things it implies, but never the less, i am Discriminating against them, rather severely in fact. and if that makes me insensitive in your view then, fine I'm insensitive. I can live with on aspect of my out look on other people being insensitive.

hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
March 26 2009 09:12 GMT
#32
Wow some guys here've gotten some concepts like racism wrong.

If a girls says "I like black men cause their skin color makes me sooo horny!" she is racist, isn't she? Cause she doesn't find the skin color of the Caucasian men attractive, right. That's racist, I guess... If you actually think this way, you've got some issues.

If you don't like the outlook of the black people or caucasian or asian you're not a racist!
If you think caucasian peope are smarter/better human beings than asian people and your opinion is not based on scientific research but is based on the skin color of the two respective races then you're a racist! Can't you guys get that?!? It seems obvious to me.
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
March 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#33
On March 26 2009 18:02 freelander wrote:
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On March 26 2009 17:52 Etherone wrote:
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On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
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On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to


no you don't and i didn't say that, but if you sated you don't get attracted to black women, I.E because they're black, not only is that a racist statement you are being a racist.



this is funny
if I say I don't get attracted to black women
There is no other reasoning but because they are black. This is simple logic. I only told one property(is this the right word? -_-) of them, so that must be it.

It's like I don't get attracted to woman who are higher than me. I only said one thing about them, they are highet than me, so that must be the reason I wouldn't date them.

Your post was somewhat illogical for me


no it is entirely logical, if you perceive it as you did, normally when someone says "i don't date black women." they only stated one relevant describing term, and one would assume that is the quality that determines they are not attracted to, of course it depends on the person you are talking to the conversation, etc, but in the context of a thread called "implications of racism" i am assuming this is the case.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
March 26 2009 09:23 GMT
#34
Etherone, do you like dating black girls?
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 09:37:20
March 26 2009 09:30 GMT
#35
On March 26 2009 18:12 hymn wrote:
Wow some guys here've gotten some concepts like racism wrong.

If a girls says "I like black men cause their skin color makes me sooo horny!" she is racist, isn't she? Cause she doesn't find the skin color of the Caucasian men attractive, right. That's racist, I guess... If you actually think this way, you've got some issues.

If you don't like the outlook of the black people or caucasian or asian you're not a racist!
If you think caucasian peope are smarter/better human beings than asian people and your opinion is not based on scientific research but is based on the skin color of the two respective races then you're a racist! Can't you guys get that?!? It seems obvious to me.


you are right in the sense that, racism is the belief that one race is inferior to another.
but as I pointed out in a previous post, racism is commonly referred to as the discrimination based on race, and that is base of the paradigm carried by many so for the sake of simplicity that is the one i will use.

and in that outlook, the girl is racism not because she doesn't like the skin color of Caucasian males, but simply because she finds black men's skin color horny, it is not negative in any way, it simply is a discrimination based on race, seeing as not all deemed "black" people have the same skin tone and thus in the context of the common paradigm that racism = discrimination by race, it is racist.

Edit: also may i say Hymn that since you are Bulgarian and have no idea what common paradigm i am talking about, since it is not common to you, let me say that you are 100% correct, if you are in no way discerning that one race is inferior to another because of race you are not being racist.

One can always go into to the psychological part saying the, " aah but the reason he doesn't date white women is because he thinks they are inferior" but that is just babble, and can only be known by the individual and those who know him well enough.

On March 26 2009 18:23 TheTyranid wrote:
Etherone, do you like dating black girls?


yes i have dated 2, and one was one of, if not, the most interesting and intelligent individuals i have ever met.

Hi Eva

Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 09:49:08
March 26 2009 09:47 GMT
#36
you can't really compare dating to friendship, since dating generally implies a sexual attraction to the person, and you might not find the physical characteristics of one race so attractive, while friendship is mostly personality based, which I don't believe is determined by skin color.

Example: I generally don't find 95% of black women attractive, hence I would say I would not date a black girl for the most part, yet I have black friends and no problem with black people.
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
March 26 2009 09:49 GMT
#37
Basic debate methodology, define the terms first. Can't settle when you don't have common definitions.

Oxford English Dictionary: Definitions:
Racism, n.:
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http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50195905?query_type=word&queryword=racist&first=1&max_to_show=10&single=1&sort_type=alpha
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Hence: prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, esp. those felt to be a threat to one's cultural or racial integrity or economic well-being; the expression of such prejudice in words or actions. Also occas. in extended use, with reference to people of other nationalities. Cf.


Racist, n. and adj.
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A. n. An advocate or supporter of racism; a person whose words or actions display racial prejudice or discrimination. Also in extended use: a person who is prejudiced against people of other nationalities. Cf.
B) adj. Of, relating to, or characterized by racism


Superior, a. and n.
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http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50242663?single=1&query_type=word&queryword=superior&first=1&max_to_show=10
A. adj.
1. Higher in local position; situated above or further up than something else; upper; {dag}belonging to the upper regions, heavenly, celestial (obs.).
B. n.
4. A person, or (less commonly) a thing, of higher quality or value than another; one that excels another in some respect. (Commonly with genitive pronoun or of.)


DISCLAIMER: Opinion below is assuming that you don't date x race because you think they arn't as attractive as y race. In less PC words, you think the other race is fugly, so you won't touch em. That said, I personally think I'm racist regarding who I want to date. It's wrong, but i currently cant/wont change it.
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Ifstuffisaidoffendedyouthenplzimsorryandplzdontflame/troll/derailthetthreadintowhoisflamingracistthread irecognizethisisavolitileissuesoifyouareoffendediwouldappreciateitifyoucouldCHILLOUTforthisopenandhonestdebate


Regarding being a racist:
I think both the girlfriend question and the friend question is racist. You may not outwardly claim to be "an advocate or supporter of racism," but i think expressing your preference of romantic partners is a display of racial prejudice/discrimination.

Regarding racism:
- I think thinking white girls are less attractive than brazilian girls is a racist belief. Because you are making a blanket statement that ALL (or a nicer way to say it: "in general") members of that race "possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race" In this example, beauty would be a characteristic/quality. So i think that makes you a little racist.
- But a key 2nd part of the definition is that those qualities also "distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." Which brings us to next point, is beauty/attractiveness a superior quality?

Regarding Superiority:
- Going with attractiveness here, I think thats often used and referred to as linear. You are either more or less attractive, some people might claim you can be "alternatively attractive," but i think secretly you DO actually mean less/more, since this is a subjective quality.
- If Beauty is linear, and you can gage it from a scale of 1 to 10, then there is superiority/inferiority.In other words, it is a quality or value that one person can have over another.

Thoughts:
I'd argue that even if you don't state you're reasons for why you wouldn't date <insert race> girls, the reasoning behind it is, more often than not, racist. (Just because you dont say it, doesn't mean you are not, simply because your actions will disagree with your words. And Actions speak louder.) Be it because they are nicer, hotter, cuter, less crazy, more crazy, more energy, less energy, smell better, eat better tasting food, ect. Only exception i can come up on the fly is due to cultural differences/incompatability, because subjectively i find it a lot harder to gage a culture's superiority to another.

I think the inconsistency between the two polls result because we've battled racism all the way past the economical, past the political, past the socially acceptable norms, and the front has finally retreated and bunkered up into the familial realm. And we all know that the familial is just the natural expo of the main personal/emotional realm. And now closet racists are bringing out the seige tanks of "YOU CANT CRITICIZE MY PERSONAL BELIEFS WTF >=(!!" and set up 5019283 turrets of "EACH PERSON HAS HIS/HER OWN OPINION OKAY?" Its much easier to say "HES/SHES a racist" than "YOU are a racist."

I'd step out in front of all the firebats and hypothesize that people who voted in both polls with inconsistent answers do so because they don't want to break social norms but are secretly terran turtles inside.

Just to combat reverse and closet racism, i think its okay to declare that you're just a little bit racist. I mean, its totally fine to play terrran. And my preference for zerg over terrans is totally racist, its only natural/evolutional that you prefer the in-group over the out-group. I like burrowing lurkers over seiging, even though they are kind of the same thing.

I'd leave this with some wise words from Avenue Q:
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
March 26 2009 09:50 GMT
#38
No, in my example the girl's choice is not based on skin color. I believe it's based on personal preference. Cause the way I see it the situation is comparable to a choice where you pick between Mercedes S-classe and BMW 7 series. They are bot comparable and whichever you pick you can be deemed as a discriminator against the other car company, implied by your explanation of racism and simplification and whatnot.
Personal preference IS NOT racism. Racism is the believe that a race is superior to another race based on not-scientifically proven facts. If a girl chooses to fuck a black man instead of a white man cause she LIKES the black dude more, you and your beliefs call it racism, I call it personal preference. I am ok with your opinion and I told you why I think it is wrong. You came and said "Yeah racism is what you said it is but this thing you said later is racist too!". Well, it's just not racist and you're contradicting yourself by first agreeing to my explanation of racism and then adding stuff to it. Stuff which I don't believe is true and I will never do. And I won't do because it's interfering with what I call common sense and human relations - a girl having sex with black people because she likes the way they look and not because she thinks white men are inferior but just that they are not her type is what I call common sense. If you fuck asian girls or if you're a homosexual because you enjoy it this way and not because you hate Causasian women or women in general for no logical reason, you won't be considered a racist or a sexist.

Whether you call that racism/sexism or not does not make any difference to me. You just need to read more info and think about it and you'll see it's all common sense. I am not saying it's politically correct, I'm just explaining why I don't think is racist based on a general understanding of racism.
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Jin
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada439 Posts
March 26 2009 09:58 GMT
#39
Not dating a girl of a specific race may not have any correlation to how attractive you find the girl's race. There may be issues of cultural differences and conflicts.
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zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
March 26 2009 10:09 GMT
#40
Discrimination perhaps is just not a perfect word to describe what we really care about when we say a person or action is racist. There's nothing inherently wrong with discrimination, certainly. One could be discriminatory towards bad starcraft players in deciding who gets onto a korean proteam for example, and i don't have to explain why that's perfectly reasonable. The word 'racism' has developed such a strong negative connotation though that i'm not sure a definition not embodying something inherently bad is very practical. Such a definition just leads to certain discussions reaching the point when someone has to say "Well, i suppose technically that is racist. But it's the kind of racism that's ok, so your using it as a sort of accusation is still unfounded." It might be more practical if racism meant something like 'holding unfair prejudice towards a particular race.'

In any case, i definitely get the impression that the op was referring to the bad kind of racism. And if they were talking about the more general kind, the answer would be absolutely obvious and this discussion would have no point whatsoever.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10366 Posts
March 26 2009 10:47 GMT
#41
I don't hire black people. It's not racism, it's my personal preference.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 26 2009 10:50 GMT
#42
Do people enjoy having pretty friends? No.
Do people enjoy having pretty girlfriends? Yes

So why more discussion? Some people like only blondies/tall/big tits/etc girls, so also some people can prefer only black/white girls, no? It's only a matter of looks, let's face it - we, men, always rate girls based on how do they look
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10366 Posts
March 26 2009 10:52 GMT
#43
There's nothing inherently racist about not finding another race attractive. But it's also extremely politically incorrect to say "I don't date black people." Just don't say it. Problem solved.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 26 2009 11:22 GMT
#44
[image loading]

Poll: Is the statement, "protoss is an ezpz imba 1a2a3a noob race!", racist?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 11:32:58
March 26 2009 11:32 GMT
#45
On March 26 2009 20:22 fearus wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Is the statement, "protoss is an ezpz imba 1a2a3a noob race!", racist?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


The problem here is that u flame the protoss
but if u :
"is the statement: I dont like protoss cause i find it easier to play, racist?"

then its not a racism, thats ur opinion that has to be respected be it true or not /
as long as u dont flame or troll
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32044 Posts
March 26 2009 11:39 GMT
#46
My god, some of you are so incredibly PC it's disgusting
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
March 26 2009 11:47 GMT
#47
This thread has been totally derailed.
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
March 26 2009 12:14 GMT
#48
railxp and etherone made the only posts worth anything ITT. OP describes racial prejudice, second Q about black girls describes borderline racism. I'll openly admit to my friends that I've never found an east Asian person who I actually liked, but I'll never say I don't like east Asian people's personalities. Any prediction about personal interaction with people based on their race is being racially prejudiced.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2009 12:16 GMT
#49
White girls are dumb as fuck. Black friends are fun.
Peace~
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 12:28:00
March 26 2009 12:22 GMT
#50
On March 26 2009 21:16 fanatacist wrote:
White girls are dumb as fuck. Black friends are fun.



LOL!

anyway, since you guys like polls and someone thinks that the thread is derailed...

I'll add up to it!


[image loading]

Poll: Who's ass would you hit?
(Vote): Beyonce (dreamed a few times, haven't fap in real life)
(Vote): Megan Fox (fapped on this chick once, haven't made it to my wet dreams)
(Vote): Some Korean Pop-star (damned they're so conservative, can't imagine fapping on any of them)




I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2009 12:53 GMT
#51
^

What the fuck. You talk about "Which ass would you 'Hit' " implying all kinds of sexsexpussyhair with happy endings and actual phallus to vagina intercourse, then you talk about fapping in the options? Misleading pervert.

Most K-Pop stars are actually ugly as fuck in reality when they are taken off the airbrushed screens, edited music videos, without their make up, and before their plastic surgery (they ALL get surgery). Beyonce has the best body of the three probably. Megan Fox, no comment.

BEYONCE FTW

I don't care about color, and neither should you. In fact, I would vote for all three if I could, because unless the girl is saggy pussy central or over 180 pounds, then you just close your eyes and imagine anything you want. You can fuck Jessica Alba every time you have sex. Now that I think about it, Beyonce has probably been with more black guys, so my caucasian penis might get lost and be rejected as a foreign bacteria. I would expect K-Pop stars to be tighter due to Asian Vagina Syndrome, but that is no guarantee either because who knows if they had to go through a prostitution service or suck-up (lol) to their managers. Pussy is pussy regardless of who the woman is. I mean, women are just life-support for a set of tits and a vagina anyway, there really isn't anything else to judge before you tap that ass, amirite?

QED, I abstain, you suck at making polls.
Peace~
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 13:02:09
March 26 2009 12:58 GMT
#52
On March 26 2009 21:53 fanatacist wrote:
^

What the fuck. You talk about "Which ass would you 'Hit' " implying all kinds of sexsexpussyhair with happy endings and actual phallus to vagina intercourse, then you talk about fapping in the options? Misleading pervert.

Most K-Pop stars are actually ugly as fuck in reality when they are taken off the airbrushed screens, edited music videos, without their make up, and before their plastic surgery (they ALL get surgery). Beyonce has the best body of the three probably. Megan Fox, no comment.

BEYONCE FTW

I don't care about color, and neither should you. In fact, I would vote for all three if I could, because unless the girl is saggy pussy central or over 180 pounds, then you just close your eyes and imagine anything you want. You can fuck Jessica Alba every time you have sex. Now that I think about it, Beyonce has probably been with more black guys, so my caucasian penis might get lost and be rejected as a foreign bacteria. I would expect K-Pop stars to be tighter due to Asian Vagina Syndrome, but that is no guarantee either because who knows if they had to go through a prostitution service or suck-up (lol) to their managers. Pussy is pussy regardless of who the woman is. I mean, women are just life-support for a set of tits and a vagina anyway, there really isn't anything else to judge before you tap that ass, amirite?

QED, I abstain, you suck at making polls.


I love you my brethren <3

Edit: come on, just hit one of them and i'll be happy ^_^
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2009 13:07 GMT
#53
On March 26 2009 21:58 Licmyobelisk wrote:
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On March 26 2009 21:53 fanatacist wrote:
^

What the fuck. You talk about "Which ass would you 'Hit' " implying all kinds of sexsexpussyhair with happy endings and actual phallus to vagina intercourse, then you talk about fapping in the options? Misleading pervert.

Most K-Pop stars are actually ugly as fuck in reality when they are taken off the airbrushed screens, edited music videos, without their make up, and before their plastic surgery (they ALL get surgery). Beyonce has the best body of the three probably. Megan Fox, no comment.

BEYONCE FTW

I don't care about color, and neither should you. In fact, I would vote for all three if I could, because unless the girl is saggy pussy central or over 180 pounds, then you just close your eyes and imagine anything you want. You can fuck Jessica Alba every time you have sex. Now that I think about it, Beyonce has probably been with more black guys, so my caucasian penis might get lost and be rejected as a foreign bacteria. I would expect K-Pop stars to be tighter due to Asian Vagina Syndrome, but that is no guarantee either because who knows if they had to go through a prostitution service or suck-up (lol) to their managers. Pussy is pussy regardless of who the woman is. I mean, women are just life-support for a set of tits and a vagina anyway, there really isn't anything else to judge before you tap that ass, amirite?

QED, I abstain, you suck at making polls.


I love you my brethren <3

Edit: come on, just hit one of them and i'll be happy ^_^

NO.
Peace~
TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
March 26 2009 13:24 GMT
#54
On March 26 2009 17:40 hymn wrote:
@TaP.Nuada: I see your point. But as far as I know: People referred to as Caucasian are those of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia. So if someone actually says that he doesn't like dating women from this type I can't find anything racist based only on that statement. I mean if he elaborates and explains that he finds all the Caucasian women dumb and dirty and stupid and thinks they are thieves and sub-human - ok, that's racist...

Like I would never actually date an Asian looking girl. That's because I don't find their face structure attractive. I don't think they're ugly or stupid or not fun people to interact with, don't get me wrong, they're just not my type. Does that make me a racist? I don't think it does.

So if someone says he doesn't like Caucasian women and wouldn't date one cause of perfectly normal reasons I can't find that racist, only this statement is not enough to claim him as a racist.

Ah I see what you mean. To me Caucasian is generally used to refer to North Americans and Europeans.

But I get what you mean now, that makes sense.
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
March 26 2009 14:57 GMT
#55
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.



rofl this is dumb as hell, if I dont find a black girl attractive( or for that matter most black girls) and thus dont want to date them, how the hell does that make you racist
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 26 2009 15:12 GMT
#56
Dating type is different as everyone has natural tendancies to like certain types of people. I dont find black girls to be my type but it doesn't stop me from liking them (or black guys) on a different level, just a sexual kind.
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Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 15:20:35
March 26 2009 15:19 GMT
#57
Nah, it's not racist, but you might change your mind sometime


you just need to meet the right girl, then you won't even think about her ethnicity
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 26 2009 16:13 GMT
#58
Of course its fucking racist how the hell are you people voting otherwise?

You dont even know the girl and you are already prejudging based just on the color of her skin.

You dont think thats bad enough to call it racist? Well, what a hypocrite.
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 18:55:05
March 26 2009 18:52 GMT
#59
On March 26 2009 17:55 ItchReliever wrote:
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On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
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On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to



you don't decide, our society does, and our society says black girls are ugly
maybe you should try to fix this?


Nature decided that. African American females tend to have more masculine facial features which I and I imagine most of society finds unattractive.

Of course its fucking racist how the hell are you people voting otherwise?

You dont even know the girl and you are already prejudging based just on the color of her skin.

You dont think thats bad enough to call it racist? Well, what a hypocrite.


It's not racist at all, why would you want to date someone you aren't attracted to? Some people may find white skin unattractive. I find pale skin extremely unattractive.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 18:54:35
March 26 2009 18:54 GMT
#60
oops delete this
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
March 26 2009 19:28 GMT
#61
Ithink you can be friend of anyone but not date everyone, it is just different.
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 26 2009 19:30 GMT
#62
On March 27 2009 03:52 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 17:55 ItchReliever wrote:
On March 26 2009 17:39 freelander wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2009 17:27 Etherone wrote:
yes. Both are racist.

one says i don't date white girls because they are white... racist
and the other said i don't make black friends because they're black... racist

you are generalizing a group of people by their "race" .

Edit:
also the following statement is racist: i would not have sex with a(n) ( insert race) (insert gender).
i have heard this phrase followed by : but i am not racist countless times, and it's laughable.

they are being racist . they might not be a cross burning racist, they might even think the other race deserves equal rights, but because of 'X" individual's race they wouldn't involve yourself with them, that is racist.


if I don't get attracted to black women, am I racist?

man, this is ridiculous

you don't decide who you get attracted to



you don't decide, our society does, and our society says black girls are ugly
maybe you should try to fix this?


Nature decided that. African American females tend to have more masculine facial features which I and I imagine most of society finds unattractive.

Show nested quote +
Of course its fucking racist how the hell are you people voting otherwise?

You dont even know the girl and you are already prejudging based just on the color of her skin.

You dont think thats bad enough to call it racist? Well, what a hypocrite.


It's not racist at all, why would you want to date someone you aren't attracted to? Some people may find white skin unattractive. I find pale skin extremely unattractive.


I'm not racist or anything I just don't like the color of your skin
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
March 26 2009 19:39 GMT
#63
wow where's the banhammer for some of the things said in this thread
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 26 2009 19:50 GMT
#64
What's with the threads lately.
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
March 26 2009 20:11 GMT
#65
I agree with the notion that we're all a little bit racist, be it due nature or nurture (or both) as mentioned a few times above.

Racism at this level isn't harmful at all to society and no one should be persecuted for it. I think those who try to hammer political correctness on people who are mild racists are doing a greater disfavor to everyone by balkanization.

That is all this debate is and will ever be - dividing people, under the mask of wanting to "unite" them.
But it's not going to unite them. It's not political correctness that changes a people's racism. Not even state's laws can change that. It is the culture itself that develops that way for diverse allegorical reasons, along with inherent preferences from birth. Because we can't change our levels of racism, why not just let it go?

Provide everyone with the same rights as civilians. Be politically correct. But please, don't expect people not to be racist. At least not in this millennium just yet.
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 26 2009 20:32 GMT
#66
people have probably already said this (I haven't read past the first post), but yes in the original question it is racism.

but racism being good or bad or wrong or right is all just opinion anyways. obviously it depends on the racism.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23054 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-04 05:49:13
February 04 2019 05:00 GMT
#67
The more things change the more they stay the same:

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=1089#21768

User was temp banned for this post.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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