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StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
March 11 2009 20:39 GMT
#41
On March 12 2009 01:33 Grobyc wrote:
It was a fun game, don't get me wrong, but I never bothered finishing the storyline. It just got too boring after a while -_-


Just doing purely storyline takes 7-8 hours...

???
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
March 11 2009 20:49 GMT
#42
wtf sick timing i just started playing it again too
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 11 2009 21:24 GMT
#43
I've been on my way to rivet city for a few months now. Just so fucking lazy and I dont want to walk through another scary ass subway station :O

Good game though. I enjoyed Oblivion more too but Oblivion got annoying with all the shit you had to do. Also I went for a ranger with a bow and it seems bows just suck afterawhile. I got Hatred's Revenge or something and it was awesome for a long while then sucked by level 15.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
March 11 2009 21:30 GMT
#44
Fallout3: Horrible dialog written by a 12 year-old, overall bad storyline. Horrible voice acting. Appalling gameplay; movement and the VATS was beyond annoying. Awful game. I am amazed my nerves were able to cope up to raven rock...

One of the worst games I have played. Thank you, Bethesda, for dragging the corpse of a previously great series and raping the shit out of it.

On March 12 2009 04:43 Realpenguin wrote:
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On March 12 2009 02:52 KingofHearts wrote:
i played it,,, its overrated imho. crysis and crysis warhead and the call of duty series is better imho.

meh I thought crysis and cod4/5 were absolutely horrible
if anything those games are overrated

I haven't tried Fallout 3, because I decided to finish FO1 and 2 first. I almost finished 1, and then my save file disappeared.

This is how you're supposed to play Fallout. But skip Fo3.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-11 21:53:50
March 11 2009 21:52 GMT
#45
On March 12 2009 06:30 meathook wrote:
Fallout3: Horrible dialog written by a 12 year-old, overall bad storyline. Horrible voice acting. Appalling gameplay; movement and the VATS was beyond annoying. Awful game. I am amazed my nerves were able to cope up to raven rock...

One of the worst games I have played. Thank you, Bethesda, for dragging the corpse of a previously great series and raping the shit out of it.

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On March 12 2009 04:43 Realpenguin wrote:
On March 12 2009 02:52 KingofHearts wrote:
i played it,,, its overrated imho. crysis and crysis warhead and the call of duty series is better imho.

meh I thought crysis and cod4/5 were absolutely horrible
if anything those games are overrated

I haven't tried Fallout 3, because I decided to finish FO1 and 2 first. I almost finished 1, and then my save file disappeared.

This is how you're supposed to play Fallout. But skip Fo3.




You sir, are picky



Edit: Really, the gameplay is all about exploring and discovering new things. It doesn't do anything exceptionally, but this core aspect is so beautifully done that it makes up for all the flaws in the gameplay.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-11 22:17:07
March 11 2009 22:15 GMT
#46
On March 12 2009 06:52 Athos wrote:
Edit: Really, the gameplay is all about exploring and discovering new things. It doesn't do anything exceptionally, but this core aspect is so beautifully done that it makes up for all the flaws in the gameplay.

It comes down to what you want in a roleplaying game. These aspects, the discovery and the exploration, are not traditionally the selling points of good RPGs or good FPSs. They're often touted as good additions, but never as the selling point.

If you play FO3 after FO1 and FO2, sadly to say, it doesn't live up to the gameplay of its predecessors. The end-product is still decent, but not amazing. Its one of the best games to come out in the past year, but it still doesn't hold up against the more classic RPG/FPS hybrids like Deus Ex or System Shock 2. Deep exploration doesn't make up for an engaging story and a refined character system.

That said, I wouldn't go so far as to say FO3 isn't worth the full price. It's not Best Game of All Time material, but its not complete trash, especially given some of the mods out there that refine some of the rough edges of the game (e.g. the difference in killing power between VATS and real-time should NOT be as great as it is).

On March 12 2009 04:34 Mikilatov wrote:
Even though it's probably better than Oblivion, I for some reason enjoyed Oblivion a lot more. I logged something obscene like 160 hours on Oblivion in 2 weeks. Just didn't get into Fallout nearly as much.

Still loved it to death, and explored everything in the entire game, eventually. Tenpenny Tower, and the National Archives were my favorite places in the game. VERY well-designed quest chains and narratives for both of those areas.

Did you not play Morrowind or Daggerfall? Pretty much everything that was good about Oblivion was a rehas from one of the two. Pretty much everything new was pretty crappy.
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
March 11 2009 22:22 GMT
#47
On March 12 2009 02:35 h3r1n6 wrote:
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'

I like "I don't want to set the world on fireeee" more ;p. Nevertheless this made me laugh =).

Operation: Anchorage (i.e. Fallout expansion) is coming out soon =). Time to start a new game.
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nATHANN
Profile Joined November 2007
Finland56 Posts
March 11 2009 22:27 GMT
#48
I did actually, enjoy fallout3 alot. First singleplayer games in a looong time that i did enjoy. I did rush the main quest(ending was really bad imho) and after that it didn't offer anything for me coz i think doing pointless quest and exploring world isn't fun . Yes i have complete fallout 1-2 like 7times both but when i tried playing fallout 2 again couple weeks ago the ui and graphs just felt so bleh. Well i have enjoyed all games now and i think it's really the best rpg series around but i do understand if the "new" players dont like old fallouts.

And yes both system shock 2 and Deus Ex are awesome games but nowadays the graphs are just so bad, so for me they arent worth for playing again.
Phearlock
Profile Joined December 2007
Norway400 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-11 23:13:14
March 11 2009 23:11 GMT
#49
Fallout one and two are my favorite RPG's ever (just behind Baldurs gate 2, but let's not go offtopic) and yes I did think some of the things in fallout 3 could have been done a LOT better.

With that said I enjoyed it because exploring the wasteland is great fun, although I can't seem to get as much "into" it the second time around. But I might not have found the right mix of mods yet. (I'm a big fan of mods, but my first playthrough is always mod free).

Imo though it is better than Oblivion. Though not quite as good as Morrowind. I didn't like the level progression and monster scaling that much (aka: once you get a plasma rifle, power/tesla armor, sneak 100 and energy weapons 100 everything just dies and it's no fun =P). which is my main gripe with playing it again I think.

Still, it's a good RPG imo and I'd happily recommend it, just don't expect it to be better than fallout 1 & 2, because very very little is.

edited because I really needed some spaces to make this readable, I'm tired. -.-
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
March 12 2009 00:30 GMT
#50
Well... I don't know... Fallout 3 is kind of too huge and non-linear for its own good imo. And there are some of the typical annoying "Oblivion mechanics" in it. Like item weight/carrying capacity, limited money on vendors, etc. You're exploring the HUGE world, and literally every 10-15min. you're like "Shit, I'm overloaded again... back to the house..." Sure, you don't have to pick up everything you come across, but I'm sort of a collector. I really like having a huge stash of crafting materials, alternative outfits/weapons, etc. Not to mention some really unacceptable bugs. For some people, like myself, the game just kept freezing in interior areas without living creatures.

And last but not least, the story was rather short compared huge amount of side quests, explorable territory, etc. Which wouldn't have been all that bad, if the game wasn't actually FINISHED after completing the main story... Wtf!? Every game of this scale let's you continue playing after finishing the main quest, why not Fallout 3? There's also some kind of "point of no return" in the storyline. Maybe not technically, but from a role-playing perspective it's almost impossible after that point to find any justification to go and do some side quests...

Don't get me wrong, Fallout 3 was a nice game. It can't compete with the likes of the Baldur's Gate Saga, Ultima IX, KotOR 1&2, or even NWN2 + AddOns though imho.

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shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
March 12 2009 00:39 GMT
#51
yeah. I picked up fallout 3 since it got good reviews and was made by the same guys behind Oblivion. All I can say is that it's pretty disappointing. The environment got pretty old quickly and something about guns and VATS just didn't do it for me. Yep...i love oblivion. but Fallout 3, not so much
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 12 2009 00:42 GMT
#52
On March 12 2009 09:39 shavingcream66 wrote:
yeah. I picked up fallout 3 since it got good reviews and was made by the same guys behind Oblivion. All I can say is that it's pretty disappointing. The environment got pretty old quickly and something about guns and VATS just didn't do it for me. Yep...i love oblivion. but Fallout 3, not so much


I like guns more hehe and I really like the theme of "apocalyps" I always have.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 01:09:43
March 12 2009 01:03 GMT
#53
On March 12 2009 06:52 Athos wrote:
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On March 12 2009 06:30 meathook wrote:
Fallout3: Horrible dialog written by a 12 year-old, overall bad storyline. Horrible voice acting. Appalling gameplay; movement and the VATS was beyond annoying. Awful game. I am amazed my nerves were able to cope up to raven rock...

One of the worst games I have played. Thank you, Bethesda, for dragging the corpse of a previously great series and raping the shit out of it.

On March 12 2009 04:43 Realpenguin wrote:
On March 12 2009 02:52 KingofHearts wrote:
i played it,,, its overrated imho. crysis and crysis warhead and the call of duty series is better imho.

meh I thought crysis and cod4/5 were absolutely horrible
if anything those games are overrated

I haven't tried Fallout 3, because I decided to finish FO1 and 2 first. I almost finished 1, and then my save file disappeared.

This is how you're supposed to play Fallout. But skip Fo3.




You sir, are picky



Edit: Really, the gameplay is all about exploring and discovering new things. It doesn't do anything exceptionally, but this core aspect is so beautifully done that it makes up for all the flaws in the gameplay.

Yeah, this is the "highpoint" of Fo3 - the landscapes look good. But that's all..

I'm not picky, I am just able to tell that a game is utter shit when I play it.. unlike many here.

On March 12 2009 07:15 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2009 06:52 Athos wrote:
Edit: Really, the gameplay is all about exploring and discovering new things. It doesn't do anything exceptionally, but this core aspect is so beautifully done that it makes up for all the flaws in the gameplay.

It comes down to what you want in a roleplaying game. These aspects, the discovery and the exploration, are not traditionally the selling points of good RPGs or good FPSs. They're often touted as good additions, but never as the selling point.

If you play FO3 after FO1 and FO2, sadly to say, it doesn't live up to the gameplay of its predecessors. The end-product is still decent, but not amazing. Its one of the best games to come out in the past year, but it still doesn't hold up against the more classic RPG/FPS hybrids like Deus Ex or System Shock 2. Deep exploration doesn't make up for an engaging story and a refined character system.

That said, I wouldn't go so far as to say FO3 isn't worth the full price. It's not Best Game of All Time material, but its not complete trash, especially given some of the mods out there that refine some of the rough edges of the game (e.g. the difference in killing power between VATS and real-time should NOT be as great as it is).

Decent by what standards? Yeah, it does not live up to it's predecessors. . no one (no one with a brain in their skull, that is) ever thought it would.

Even analyzing the game from the perspective of a person who has not played the other games, Fo3 has NOTHING compelling to offer - the combat is mediocre at best, the "dialog".. well, it's just bad. The character development is there purely in name- Bethsoft added the stats system purely because they wanted ppl to think it was a Fallout game (can't be fallout without SPECIAL).

The only thing Fo3 has going for itself is the graphics, and by graphics I mean landscapes. The landscapes and some of the locations look great. The character models and animations are pretty horrid, esp. by current standards.
On March 12 2009 07:27 nATHANN wrote:
I did actually, enjoy fallout3 alot. First singleplayer games in a looong time that i did enjoy. I did rush the main quest(ending was really bad imho) and after that it didn't offer anything for me coz i think doing pointless quest and exploring world isn't fun . Yes i have complete fallout 1-2 like 7times both but when i tried playing fallout 2 again couple weeks ago the ui and graphs just felt so bleh. Well i have enjoyed all games now and i think it's really the best rpg series around but i do understand if the "new" players dont like old fallouts.

And yes both system shock 2 and Deus Ex are awesome games but nowadays the graphs are just so bad, so for me they arent worth for playing again.

A while back I read Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment, I liked the book.. it had a great story and offered some philosophical elements that really made me think.

The other day, I came across the book on a shelf, but the typeface on the cover was so bleh I decided it isn't worth reading again. Instead I am reading John Grisham's Crime and Punishment: The Runaway Jury.

Edit: Funny, reading this thread I got the urge to attempt to finish the last part of Fo3 (after the crow rock or w/e) just to see the ending, the ultimate disappointment, by what I've heard.. just to get peace of mind, even though I've already dismissed this abortion.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
March 12 2009 02:16 GMT
#54
I played through the game, and it was pretty good. Just reading this topic, i had to go through and beat death canyon and the deathclaw sanctuary. Death canyon took me from level 16 to level 19 and i finished leveling at the deathclaw sanctuary. Uninstalling now cause theres nothing left to do.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 12 2009 03:38 GMT
#55
On March 12 2009 05:39 StrikeFLOW wrote:
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On March 12 2009 01:33 Grobyc wrote:
It was a fun game, don't get me wrong, but I never bothered finishing the storyline. It just got too boring after a while -_-


Just doing purely storyline takes 7-8 hours...

???

Yeah but it's pretty easy to get sidetracked, and after getting sidetracked so much I looked at my gameplay time and it was ~17 hours. After seeing that I played a few more hours of the storyline but didn't find it that interesting and eventually just got bored.

That's just me and a few friends though, I'm sure other people have different opinions.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 12:45:25
March 12 2009 12:41 GMT
#56
On March 12 2009 07:27 nATHANN wrote:
And yes both system shock 2 and Deus Ex are awesome games but nowadays the graphs are just so bad, so for me they arent worth for playing again.

1) There are mods for graphics
2) Graphics are temporal, stories are timeless (and Deus Ex/SS2 are MUCH better in that regard)
You realize how old you make me feel when you say Deus Ex has unplayable graphics? I still remember back when Deus Ex's graphics were "state of the art."

On March 12 2009 10:03 meathook wrote:
Even analyzing the game from the perspective of a person who has not played the other games, Fo3 has NOTHING compelling to offer - the combat is mediocre at best, the "dialog".. well, it's just bad. The character development is there purely in name- Bethsoft added the stats system purely because they wanted ppl to think it was a Fallout game (can't be fallout without SPECIAL).

The only thing Fo3 has going for itself is the graphics, and by graphics I mean landscapes. The landscapes and some of the locations look great. The character models and animations are pretty horrid, esp. by current standards.

There's no way to fix the disappointing story/dialogue but at the very least, there are mods that make combat more interesting, and revert back to a character system more reminiscent of the old SPECIAL system.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
March 12 2009 13:33 GMT
#57
On March 12 2009 21:41 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2009 07:27 nATHANN wrote:
And yes both system shock 2 and Deus Ex are awesome games but nowadays the graphs are just so bad, so for me they arent worth for playing again.

1) There are mods for graphics
2) Graphics are temporal, stories are timeless (and Deus Ex/SS2 are MUCH better in that regard)
You realize how old you make me feel when you say Deus Ex has unplayable graphics? I still remember back when Deus Ex's graphics were "state of the art."

That guy is an imbecile.

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On March 12 2009 10:03 meathook wrote:
Even analyzing the game from the perspective of a person who has not played the other games, Fo3 has NOTHING compelling to offer - the combat is mediocre at best, the "dialog".. well, it's just bad. The character development is there purely in name- Bethsoft added the stats system purely because they wanted ppl to think it was a Fallout game (can't be fallout without SPECIAL).

The only thing Fo3 has going for itself is the graphics, and by graphics I mean landscapes. The landscapes and some of the locations look great. The character models and animations are pretty horrid, esp. by current standards.

There's no way to fix the disappointing story/dialogue but at the very least, there are mods that make combat more interesting, and revert back to a character system more reminiscent of the old SPECIAL system.

Incidentally, Fallout is more about story than it is about combat. For me at least. I did enjoy the combat in Fo1 and 2 but it was not the point of emphasis. Getting mods that fix the combat/SPECIAL stuff is like buying a comfortable seat for a bike with no wheels.

I would rather people spend time trying to fix STALKER, which had an acceptable story (although it does not even come close to the novel and movie) and great environment but horrible gameplay and character development.

In conclusion, what's done is done; Beth raped Fallout, and want to continue doing it from what I gather. The only thing left to do is remember the greatness of the old games, keep playing them and inform new people.
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
March 12 2009 16:11 GMT
#58
Yesterday we went to an i-cafe to play left 4 dead. then i procceeded to play starcraft on iccup and my 2 buddies got bored and guess what they started playing on LAN.. Fallout 2...! kek!
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 04:43:31
March 13 2009 04:43 GMT
#59
I'm just up to the part where you + Show Spoiler +
rescue your dad from Vault 8 or w/e.

That was 4 months ago.
I don't know why I haven't had the urge to play it again lately. SC has been taking over.
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