people i found my second problem (besides trying to find a good build for a year)

My army control sucks! I lost a maxed out army with 1/1 to a Terran at 134 supply with 1/1. i had 7 templars... I 1a2a3a ... then I GG! now i understand the 1a2a3aGG joke. u little..

anyway now im going into training for entirely army control. once i get this down i think i can win more games :o

btw i havent watched a VOD in 20 months :'( soo busy

gusbear

333 Posts

March 09 2009 21:42 GMT

man if it took you 1 year to find a good build.... lol jk good luck

Sonu

Canada577 Posts

March 09 2009 21:45 GMT

On March 10 2009 06:42 gusbear wrote:
man if it took you 1 year to find a good build.... lol jk good luck

actually i never found it . thats what hit me so hard and thats the point of this blog. Basics before advanced zealot bombings and sht

blabber

United States4448 Posts

March 09 2009 21:45 GMT

uh well you should be spreading your units out more, you shouldn't send all your units in a giant clump unless you want your army to simply die.

statix

United States1760 Posts

March 09 2009 21:46 GMT

Yea... only newb p's actually 1a2a3a. When attacking a T army you cant just send your whole army into 50 sieged tanks. You'll die horribly.

Instead wait for them to unsiege and flank them. You don't want your units to stream in single file or from one direction but more importantly come at them like a wall. Try to run your zealots past the mines/vultures and into the tanks. Hopefully you'll drag a few mines though and blow up some tanks/vults in the process.

You say you had templars? Did you have them in a shuttle? That's really the only way they'll be effective if youre attacking in the manner I'm describing. While his tanks are attacking your goons and vultures, drop your templars off to the side and storm his tanks. If you just mix them up in your army they'll lag behind and most likely get to the battle once all your stuff is dead ( a good T will just see you coming and vulture snipe your templars.)

il0seonpurpose

Korea (South)5638 Posts

March 09 2009 21:47 GMT

A replay would help

Zapdos_Smithh

Canada2620 Posts

March 09 2009 21:50 GMT

On March 10 2009 06:46 statix wrote:
Yea... only newb p's actually 1a2a3a. When attacking a T army you cant just send your whole army into 50 sieged tanks. You'll die horribly.

Instead wait for them to unsiege and flank them. You don't want your units to stream in single file or from one direction but more importantly come at them like a wall. Try to run your zealots past the mines/vultures and into the tanks. Hopefully you'll drag a few mines though and blow up some tanks/vults in the process.

You say you had templars? Did you have them in a shuttle? That's really the only way they'll be effective if youre attacking in the manner I'm describing. While his tanks are attacking your goons and vultures, drop your templars off to the side and storm his tanks. If you just mix them up in your army they'll lag behind and most likely get to the battle once all your stuff is dead ( a good T will just see you coming and vulture snipe your templars.)

Yeah that. Also manually controlling your observers so that they just don't go suicide into turrets helps a lot. The worst thing after a big battle is defeating terran, only to have all of your units melt as well to mines right after because your observers died to turrets.

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

March 09 2009 21:54 GMT

On March 10 2009 06:37 Sonu wrote:
people i found my second problem (besides trying to find a good build for a year)

My army control sucks! I lost a maxed out army with 1/1 to a Terran at 134 supply with 1/1. i had 7 templars... I 1a2a3a ... then I GG! now i understand the 1a2a3aGG joke. u little..

anyway now im going into training for entirely army control. once i get this down i think i can win more games :o

btw i havent watched a VOD in 20 months :'( soo busy

Spread your goons out.

Make sure your goons take the first round of tank fire and then immediately after your speedlots should be running in.

For safety I stick my HT's in shuttles and drop them only after the engagement has started, no T worth their salt will target the shuttle over the arbiter for instance.

It's merely practice but you can't just A-move into a terran mech ball, you'll die a horrible death. It takes some bad control to lose to an army you had a 66 Psi advantage over.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

March 09 2009 22:02 GMT

I remember a game where i distracted all his vults with goons, then laughed as 24 speedzeals came in from his unprotected flank all over his tanks

Racenilatr

United States2756 Posts

March 09 2009 22:12 GMT

#10

lol? Just another protoss joker who realizes the truth -.-

imperfect

Canada1652 Posts

March 09 2009 22:49 GMT

#11

My tips

1) if you can, dont attack a sieged terran. try to attack when he unsieges and moves

2) flank flank flank sooooo important

3) spread your goons out. very helpful

4) you also need to learn how to rush to the tank line with zealots. use couple of zealots + goons to clear mines then let the rest of the zealots in.

5) ht + shuttle! helps against vulture sniping, and also you can storm the tanks during the actual battle, not after you lost everything

6) dont get pissed, and just keep practicing. i lost so many games because of bad army control, and i still lose sometimes.

i hope that helped!

Nytefish

United Kingdom4282 Posts

March 09 2009 23:22 GMT

#12

Haha maybe you took the 1a2a3a joke a bit too seriously.

anderoo

Canada1876 Posts

March 09 2009 23:26 GMT

#13

On March 10 2009 07:49 imperfect wrote:
1) if you can, dont attack a sieged terran. try to attack when he unsieges and moves

2) flank flank flank sooooo important

This. Don't attack into a sieged terran unless you absolutely must, and if you DO have to, flank like a motherfucker and use those zeal bombs

Sonu

Canada577 Posts

March 10 2009 00:33 GMT

#14

On March 10 2009 07:12 Racenilatr wrote:
lol? Just another protoss joker who realizes the truth -.-

shaddup. im no joker >.> and i dont 1a2a3a all the time. i was off macroing somewhere atm