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On March 09 2009 05:24 KlaCkoN wrote:
There is a swedish saying of sorts which goes like "Don't ever think you are anything". Swedes use it to jokingly describe their aversion for people who try to stick out.
However I don't think that I in my entire life have encountered a group of people who adhere to that saying as much as americans on team liquid =p
Seriously, way to shut down someone who is actually trying to develop his own view on the world?
If anyone here is pretentious, elitist or "wannabe adult" it's you guys.
Personally I find people who have not spent quite some time thinking about the world, their place in it, their morals etc extremely boring. And while I disagree with more or less everything in the OP I comend his effort to actually _think_.
Finally, to the guy with the obligatory get laid comment:
"An intellectual is someone who has found something more interesting in life than sex"
=p
the trouble is a lot of kids convince themselves they're some kind of great thinker because of narcissistic ideas like what you're suggesting. think however much you want, just don't delude yourself into thinking it makes you somehow special. the op is probably a smart guy, but there are lots of "smart" and talented guys out there, but only so many that have actually developed that talent into anything.
in fact, op doesn't know shit about life, writing, or philosophy. but you're suggesting he should go on pretending? how is that productive?
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You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
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hey what should i do if im like god except that i exist and god doesnt
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On March 09 2009 05:38 ahrara_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2009 05:24 KlaCkoN wrote:
There is a swedish saying of sorts which goes like "Don't ever think you are anything". Swedes use it to jokingly describe their aversion for people who try to stick out.
However I don't think that I in my entire life have encountered a group of people who adhere to that saying as much as americans on team liquid =p
Seriously, way to shut down someone who is actually trying to develop his own view on the world?
If anyone here is pretentious, elitist or "wannabe adult" it's you guys.
Personally I find people who have not spent quite some time thinking about the world, their place in it, their morals etc extremely boring. And while I disagree with more or less everything in the OP I comend his effort to actually _think_.
Finally, to the guy with the obligatory get laid comment:
"An intellectual is someone who has found something more interesting in life than sex"
=p the trouble is a lot of kids convince themselves they're some kind of great thinker because of narcissistic ideas like what you're suggesting. think however much you want, just don't delude yourself into thinking it makes you somehow special. the op is probably a smart guy, but there are lots of "smart" and talented guys out there, but only so many that have actually developed that talent into anything. in fact, op doesn't know shit about life, writing, or philosophy. but you're suggesting he should go on pretending? how is that productive?
Noone, including the OP, is claiming that he is some "great thinker".
On the same token I doubt that anyone, OP yet again included, seriously believes themselves to be among the smartest people on the planet.
"Special" is obviously an extremely subjective word. Is the OP somewhat unusual in that he would rather spend his free time writing than smoking weed?
Definitely.
Yes there are a lot of smart and talented people around, what's your point?
Oh and for the last part of your post, just judging from your TL posts I would conclude that neither do you. But again, what's your point? Thankfully we do not live in a society where only the absolutely brightest and most experienced have the right to express themselves, or more importantly develop themselves.
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On March 09 2009 05:48 Hittegods wrote:
You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
I hate that quote. On an atomic level humans are much more different from each other than snow flakes. Beautiful is subjective, I think life is more beautiful than crystals. And he is not decaying until he is dead.
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indeed, i am quite ignorant in every regard.
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"Blacks are over-represented in prison population not because society is racist, but because they are the ones committing the violent crimes. One could accuse me of being racist, and I would not deny that. If that is what drawing conclusions from statistical trends is called, then so be it. Better than being a mindless bandwagoner in societal propaganda with good intentions but flawed implications."
Correlation does not lead to causation. Just because there are more African Americans in prison does not mean they are genetically born to be more violent/ruthless/unlawful. It is because the system in place makes it very hard for them NOT to do so.
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Do some community service. Interact with the unwashed masses. It will really help you develop your ideas.
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On March 09 2009 05:24 KlaCkoN wrote:
There is a swedish saying of sorts which goes like "Don't ever think you are anything". Swedes use it to jokingly describe their aversion for people who try to stick out.
However I don't think that I in my entire life have encountered a group of people who adhere to that saying as much as americans on team liquid =p
Seriously, way to shut down someone who is actually trying to develop his own view on the world?
If anyone here is pretentious, elitist or "wannabe adult" it's you guys.
Personally I find people who have not spent quite some time thinking about the world, their place in it, their morals etc extremely boring. And while I disagree with more or less everything in the OP I comend his effort to actually _think_.
Finally, to the guy with the obligatory get laid comment:
"An intellectual is someone who has found something more interesting in life than sex"
=p
Alright, I'll admit that my earlier comment was completely negative and not at all helpful. I don't take it back, though, because it was, in my opinion, completely true. I'll try to explain my thoughts more openly, by sharing a few of my own philosophies on life.
Shiverfish, the reason you sound pretentious when you talk about life is because you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Just like you can't talk authentically about literary analysis or quantum physics without studying in those fields, you can't talk authentically about life unless you go out there and live. However, it is painfully obvious from your blogs that you don't do a lot of living. And if, as you wrote in your other blog, these blogs are a big step for you in communicating or interacting with other people, then your ability to talk authentically about life is very small indeed. Without experience in something, you lack the language to even describe it (on a sidenote, the blog of yours that I found most interesting was the one about Light in Death Note. Even though I disagree with your thesis, it was clear that for parts of it, you were actually speaking, not just trying to speak. Because you had read Death Note, you could speak its language). Even if you steal the language from other people, the words will sound awkward when you use them because you don't really understand what they mean. This is as true when talking about life as it is when talking about mechanical engineering or the flow of rhythm in Baroque compositions. When you are writing your blogs, Shiverfish, you are stealing the language of life from other people, and unfortunately we can tell.
So what do I mean by life and living? Well, mostly, I mean interaction with other people. Humans are social creatures, and are happiest when interacting with other humans. First look into activities and such that interest you. Try a broad range of activities; the more well-rounded you are, the better your outlook on life and your ability to interact with a wide variety of people (you will have access to more languages of life). Don't be close-minded about other people. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, just like your mommy always told you. You seem to value only the strengths that you have, and not the ones that you don't. Sure, that blonde chick may not have any strengths that interest you (apart from being straight sexy) so she wouldn't be a good person to try to make friends with, but there are things that she is damn good at, which are just as valuable as what you are good at. You could learn a lot from her, and if you ever have a chance to talk with her you should do it with the recognition that you are gaining something from it. Every interaction with another person is an opportunity to better yourself (because you'll quickly realise that there always ways for a person to get better). Finally, don't be afraid to share yourself with other people. Start speaking the language of your life with people that have life languages that interest you. Yeah, you'll get hurt sometimes, but when you make a good friend that shares your language, that's pretty fucking awesome. You may think you are sharing yourself with your blogs, but you really aren't, as I've already established. You are sharing some overcooked musings on subjects that you aren't certified to speak about. If you want to share yourself in a blog, you have to actually use your language.
So what about the future of your blog? Well, I recommend writing your thoughts about something that you know quite well. Write about the books you are reading (if you don't read, start now. Seriously. Do it), or a television show you watched, or your favourite movie. Write about things that happen in your school or at work, if you want. Give your opinions and critiques, just be honest and real about it. Stop trying to turn it into a grand intellectual process, and simply speak. You are a person, and as I've said every person has an interesting language. That implies that your language is interesting. Go ahead and start speaking it, and I'm sure there will be people who enjoy hearing it.
tl:dr Without experiencing something, you have no access to its language. Therefore, you need to live life before you can talk about it authentically. Write about something you have experience in.
ps, You might guess from my constant use of language imagery that I'm an English major. Even if English isn't your thing, I hope I could speak to you in some way.
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