Nothing Left to Live For - Page 3

On February 20 2009 12:43 Pengu1n wrote:
If the meaning of life is to be happy, then why do people come into the world crying? huh huh???

On February 20 2009 12:43 Pengu1n wrote:
If the meaning of life is to be happy, then why do people come into the world crying? huh huh???

On February 20 2009 13:27 SnowFantasy wrote:
game?

the guy that taught lastshadow?

On February 20 2009 11:31 1a2a3aGG wrote:
I think my advice would fall into the category of you need to get laid man... Dont be so dramatic, I mean if your life was THAT BAD, you wouldn't be playing starcraft... or posting on TL.net.

You would sit in your room and do nothing.

I bet that your upper middle class... white... if your of driving age you have a not so old car... probably year 2000+. You probably smoke cigs and party on the weekends.. I think you need a girlfriend/get laid. Get over yourself

On February 20 2009 10:43 Shiverfish wrote:
Death is simply going to sleep permanently.

On February 20 2009 10:43 Shiverfish wrote:
To me the meaning of life is to be happy. There is no higher supernatural purpose to serve. There is no afterlife paradise to enjoy upon judgement of the worthiness of our lives. Other primal desires that derive satisfaction all fall within the category of being happy. Humans do possess a higher intelligence and consciousness, enough that sometimes the pursuit of happiness instead becomes deep despair, which can surpass the instinct of preservation of life.

In economics many people are familiar with the concept of utility. The units of utility are what drive our decision-making, measuring the marginal utility gained versus sacrifice. Meshing this concept with the meaning of life, one's overall happiness is equivalent to utility. A life is worth living if one's overall happiness levels exceed their unhappiness levels. For most people this is luckily positive; for others, it is not, which may lead to suicidal behaviour.

People perceive happiness differently. Some people are fortunate to experience great joys and contentment in their lives. Other, even in the exact same situations, simply feel less enjoyment. On the other side of the equation, people will also experience sadness, anger, hatred, and other negative emotions to differing degrees of intensity, again even in the exact same circumstances. Those who experience little joy and heavy sorrow live a life in which unhappiness exceeds happiness, marginal sacrifice is greater than marginal utility, and their life is meaningless. What else do they have to live for?

One important thing to note is that this graph largely focuses on the projected happiness vs sadness of an individual, rather than the historic. An optimistic person will be able to forecast greater happiness in their remaining life and choose to remain alive in order to try to attain that enjoyment. Another person may project a negative happiness balance in their remaining lifespan... what is the meaning of that life?

This leads to my main issue: I have nothing left to live for. My perceived happiness levels are not enough to overcome my perceived sadness levels. I know that many people would absolutely love to be in my shoes, that I am very fortunate and could hardly ask for more in my life, that many of my friends envy to be the person that I am. But they would not understand the madness in my mind. I guess this sounds rather suicidal and emo, but don't worry, I do not do anything recklessly.

I regularly daydream of a painless, instant death. Ask yourself this question: what is the most pleasant time of your day or life routine? FOr me, it is unquestionably going to sleep or waking up in bed and being able to stay there. My mind is clear, my world is safe, my body is comfortable. Death is simply going to sleep permanently. What is wrong with that? It halts the happiness deficit from deepening and limits my surplus of sorrow. Every night when I go to sleep, I wish a meteor would fall from the sky and smash me to smithereens. Then I would never wake up.

But yet I cannot go for now. I owe too much to my family. I saw how hard my parents worked to bring me up. I know I will never be able to repay them, in terms of sheer hard work and effort. If I selfishly end my own life, it would simply be too unfair for them, in my eyes, in having invested so much and having it all wasted. In a way, the injustice in their resultant unhappiness is enough for me to stick around. Due to this, I must rely on a form of death that is not my borne from my own cause, from spontaneous combustion to a uncontrollable quick acting cancer. It would have been beyond my control.

Writing this stuff is my form of therapy. I feel that if someday I did die, my legacy must continue in this world. My torment would end, but my words and thoughts do not suffer in the same way I do. If I can record them somewhere, at least my ideas do not go down with me. To satisfy my enormous ego, I must let the world know my brilliance while I still have the chance.

And I have much more to say.

On February 20 2009 12:07 travis wrote:
everything is temporary. happiness, pleasure, sadness, fear, anger, etc. all of that is temporary and subject to change at any time.

if you truly are so dispassioned towards the world that you feel you have no reason left to live, then master the way in which you experience the world and you will not suffer regardless of what is happening.

perceptions are not universal.

1 person suffers from hunger, another does not suffer from that same hunger.
1 person laughs at a joke, another does not.
1 person gets lonely, another does not.
1 person gets defensive at being insulted, another does not.
1 person responds to violence with violence, another does not.
1 person has a low pain tolerance, another has a high pain tolerance.

you can change your own perceptions through mindfulness and proper understanding


p.s: I am basically convinced that rebirth is real. if you kill yourself the experiences will be reborn, regardless of a perceived connection to your past life.

On February 21 2009 14:39 Rekrul wrote:


stfu