EPTThis 3995 C- (so damn close to C) zerg just 5 pooled me... and my ranking was 3070. What the fuck? Why? He then transitioned into all-in muta of course like the faggot he is...
He probably 5pools every single game to get to C... what a noob.
Supposed to play standard if your opponent is bad?
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
This 3995 C- (so damn close to C) zerg just 5 pooled me... and my ranking was 3070. What the fuck? Why? He then transitioned into all-in muta of course like the faggot he is... He probably 5pools every single game to get to C... what a noob. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5525 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
remember when bisu proxy 2 gated into the opponent's mineral line? | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
A little sort of "trick" iv picked up however for determining if people are good in the low ranks is that if people have even numbers of points in the D to C- ranks they are more often good players than people with odd points like 2873. This is since good people who play their own rank usually wins alot and dont get odd numbers from losing 75 pointers at C- ect. This is of course no rule since good people can end up playing D vs D+ games ect, but more often than not when I play good people (good stats atleast) in the low ranks they have even numbers. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
is a newbie blog. Saying newbie things. Points don't help dictate the strategy you do. Stats do. If you are 12-0 D+ odds are you will play standard vs a guy who is 22-14 D+. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
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Presony-Boy
Israel812 Posts
i almost managed to win, but i allowed him to catch me off guard with lings... my point is, every1 cheeses sometimes. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On January 10 2009 18:44 freelander wrote: not really.. if you are better then you can do anything you want remember when bisu proxy 2 gated into the opponent's mineral line? wasn't that stork? (against BeSt) | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Your reasoning might come in to play in a clanwar. If I faced a much better player and needed to win I might resort to cheese. A ladder game is more "meh". | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
No that was  Bisu vs PokJu on Peaks of Baekduhttp://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/2893_Bisu_vs_PokJu/vod | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On January 10 2009 18:36 jimminy_kriket wrote: whats ctrl+a do? you know what i meant! ctrl + select unit and just mass selection. DAMN MACRO NEWBIE ZERG. | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
so if you wanna play for fun you'd better get some good team and play games with your mates. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
It sucks because iccup is the place most people use to practice. I know one should be able to defend against "anything" if you are better, but when 75%+ of the games you play are some sort of all in it kind of losses its purpose (im not even kidding about the proxy and dt rushes). | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
On January 10 2009 20:48 Salv wrote: Think of it as an opportunity to practice & learn versus a strategy that you evidently can't defend. This. If you'd won you wouldn't have written this blog. | ||
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Shauni
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Shauni
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On January 10 2009 21:29 Shauni wrote: And how do you come up with these ridiculous numbers like 70% of all iccup cheese? It's more like 5% for me. I've never thought there was a ridiculous amount of all-ins or cheese either. I'm Protoss, so maybe that makes a difference, but I get my fair share from Zerg and I never complain. | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
You know that feeling when you played 20 games to get to some rank and then you just want to play the last game to get the rank and get the hell out of icc for a xyz days break, bragging about your new rank? Oh, and try to form your blog as some kind of a conversation starter, rather than just a short statement and question, offer your oppinion on it. Oh, and try to avoid calling others faggots and noobs, express your anger in different ways, like "shit hits the fan", "retribution" and "fluffed". | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On January 10 2009 20:22 IntoTheWow wrote: agu i said i was sorry!Yeah i got 5 pooled a lot. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On January 10 2009 19:03 MYM.Testie wrote: This blog is a newbie blog. Saying newbie things. Points don't help dictate the strategy you do. Stats do. If you are 12-0 D+ odds are you will play standard vs a guy who is 22-14 D+. On Iccup You cannot see The Stats of other people Only their. Points | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
I guess the madness is moving into C- now as more ppl get there but I'm not getting cheesed nearly as much. I wish I was though... | ||
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Tekin
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6639 Posts
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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clazziquai
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On January 10 2009 19:14 BanZu wrote: When you're playing to win, nothing matters but winning. Who plays to win on iccup? Honestly it's not like any of us will get to the top, so what's the point? I play to improve... that's why I almost NEVER cheese. If I played to win in the short term, I wouldn't get any better and I wouldn't be able to win in real length games. If I play to get better, however, then over time I'll be winning more. On January 10 2009 20:19 Hypnosis wrote: learn how to stop a 5 pool maybe?? 8 rax every game or just learn to micro probes. or dont play z? I'm not a zerg player, and I did stop the 5pool, it just hurt my eco since I lost probably about 4 probes and only had 1 probe mining while holding it off. It just shocked me that he would go noob 5pool, and then go into noob muta rush to continue to go from one all-in anti-noob strat to another. On January 11 2009 00:38 LuckyFool wrote: After you get past D+ or so the number of 5 pools drops significantly. (At least it did for me) I guess the madness is moving into C- now as more ppl get there but I'm not getting cheesed nearly as much. I wish I was though... I've been past D+ for like 8 months... lol On January 11 2009 01:54 Salv wrote: Also, you should be able to defend fine if you pull probes. I do 8pylon, 10forge, 12cannon and the 12cannon warps in about three seconds after the lings are at your base. So if you pull seven or eight probes just to keep them busy, you should be fine. I never lose to 4 or 5 pools unless you scout him absolutely last. Then you have no indication to pull probes and you might lose, but that is pretty fucking lucky for him then. I did scout last... well last out of three. And yes, I held it off, obviously, by the fact that I said he transitioned into all-in muta  | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On January 11 2009 04:01 -orb- wrote: Who plays to win on iccup? Honestly it's not like any of us will get to the top, so what's the point? I play to improve... that's why I almost NEVER cheese. If I played to win in the short term, I wouldn't get any better and I wouldn't be able to win in real length games. If I play to get better, however, then over time I'll be winning more. A lot of people play to win. That's just the reality of it, don't try to deny it. Maybe you should focus on winning a game like this next time... cause when I get cheesed, I think "good for him, he got a cheap win, but I should get better at defending against this if it happens again" | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
With Zerg I've gotten so used to dealing with cheese that I actually like it when the opponent cheeses me, but getting my gas stolen, manner pylon'ed and etc. fucking blows as a Terran. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On January 11 2009 04:01 -orb- wrote: Who plays to win on iccup? Honestly it's not like any of us will get to the top, so what's the point? I play to improve... that's why I almost NEVER cheese. If I played to win in the short term, I wouldn't get any better and I wouldn't be able to win in real length games. If I play to get better, however, then over time I'll be winning more.P I'm just saying, some people play SC for the single purpose of beating others. I never cheese or go for any rushes either. My friend on the other-hand is a noob so he does that literally 100% of the time now. Pisses me off. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On January 13 2009 07:40 il0seonpurpose wrote: I just played some noob, he went like 3 gates and just made zealots on ride of valk, after I scouted this I cancelled my factory and was gonna go for bio. For some reason my marines couldn't attack thte zealots even though they were right in front of them in my wall and he broke it down, gg I hate when weird shit like that happens. Like for example, on python, at the 6 o clock base, try landing reavers to the left of the minerals to shoot the probes. Very often the reavers do not shoot. They shoot more often if you target fire, but if you a-move them or let them sit they do nothing like retards, even though they're definitely in range. Sometimes it doesn't work even when target firing... it's the most bullshit thing ever. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
The best you can do is scout early and play safe. You scouted him at 3rd spot, that's just bad luck right there! If you play consistently, statistics is on your side. 4/5-pooling is not reliable. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On January 13 2009 07:45 GrayArea wrote: If I'm better than my opponent, I just cheese him or try to win as fast as I can so that I don't waste my time. I'd understand it being a waste of time if the opponent is an uber noob because it wouldn't be fun at all playing standard. But if you're talking about higher level gaming I think it's stupid to play just to win. If it's such a waste of time to play standard, find someone better to play instead of pissing off someone and ruining their day (or their next few minutes). | ||
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
On January 13 2009 11:30 BanZu wrote: I'd understand it being a waste of time if the opponent is an uber noob because it wouldn't be fun at all playing standard. But if you're talking about higher level gaming I think it's stupid to play just to win. If it's such a waste of time to play standard, find someone better to play instead of pissing off someone and ruining their day (or their next few minutes). The question is if my opponent is bad, what will I do? The question is NOT talking about higher level gaming. It's just asking what will I do if I am better at my opponent. So my answer is, because I already know that I am going to win in the end, I will try to win as fast as I can. Are you expecting me to give my opponent handicaps just because I know I am better than them? =/ | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On January 13 2009 12:25 GrayArea wrote: The question is if my opponent is bad, what will I do? The question is NOT talking about higher level gaming. It's just asking what will I do if I am better at my opponent. So my answer is, because I already know that I am going to win in the end, I will try to win as fast as I can. Are you expecting me to give my opponent handicaps just because I know I am better than them? =/ Wait... not 5pooling is a handicap? Something is severely wrong with your logic. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On January 13 2009 13:44 -orb- wrote: Wait... not 5pooling is a handicap? Something is severely wrong with your logic. yes. when you're not allowed to do something that you're opponent is allowed to do, it's a handicap. hellolearntothink. | ||
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