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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 08 2009 17:47 GMT
#1
The story is about two coworkers in a company, kelvin and Don. Don had been with the company for a long time, and Kelvin just started working there and he doesn't know who Don was. One day, Kelvin and Don got into an argument, the detail is not important, the end result is that Kelvin is now holding a grunge against Don. As days go by, Don forgot about the ordeal between himself and Kelvin. But Kelvin does not forgive, nor does he forget, Kelvin is just waiting, he wants to ruin Don for a mere argument.

Finally his opportunity came, One day he overheard Don arguing with a decorated member of the company, Susie. the exchange is fierce, both people are not backing down at all, again the content is not important. What happened next is that the boss showed up as those 2 were arguing, the boss told both of them that "if you 2 were new to the company I would have fired both of you for violating the company rules and disrupting the work place, but since it turned out that it's the two of you whom I knew for a very long time, I will let you off with a warning." So Don and Susie got off with merely a warning.

Next day Don feels bad about the whole ordeal, he made an apology to Susie, and Susie told Don not to worry, there is no problem between the two of them.

At the end of the day, as Don walking to his car on the parking lot, Kelvin approached Don. Kelvin said to Don "I was the one that reported you. I'm just letting you know it wasn't anything personal or me trying to be a dick, I just think you went too far, and I'm glad that you agree. It's great that you are mature about it and made an apology."

Don looked at Kelvin and he remembered the whole argument he went into with Kelvin a while back, he realize what had happened, he was almost fired because some new guy held a grunge against him.

But as Don looking at Kelvin, Don realize something doesn't add up. Don thinks "if Kelvin just wanted to get me fired, why did't he hide himself from me and wait for another chance? What is his objective for telling me he did it?"
As Don stares at Kelvin he's thinking hard on Kelvin's motive. After all his job is on the line here, this guy have already stabbed him in the back once, and not afraid to admit to it.

Don finally came up with a logical deduction of what happened after some thoughts and a lot of staring at Kelvin.

Don deducts "Kelvin argued with me, held a grunge, instead of acting upon it by himself, he sneaked around used the argument between me and Susie for his own vendetta. and then 2 unexpected event happened, 1st I didn't get fired, because I have been around for a long long time. 2nd I made an apology, which Kelvin didn't see that coming, Kelvin must have think of me as a thick head that can't be reasoned with, and deserted to get fired. and now Kelvin changed his mind about trying to get me fired because he must have done the same to other people in the company and it work, but this time it failed and he know that I would not make the same mistake ever again, based on how open minded I acted by apologizing to Susie, and he will not have another chance to get me fired. But Kelvin is a kind of guy that doesn't forgive nor forget, and I didn't get punish for arguing with him, and he can not do anything about me from now on. he has to do something to get back at me, but he realize i'm not an asshole like he though base on my actions, and with no other future hope of getting me fired he's taking the next best thing to ease his anger. He came here to ask me for an apology. Oh wait, actually he had already assumed an Apology from me that I have never given, he just said 'It's great that you are mature about it and made an apology' "

At this point Don started laughing, Kelvin asks Don what's so funny? Don just turns around got on his car and drive off.

Do you guys think Don is too sure of himself? is his deduction wrong? If you think Don is wrong please offer a logical deduction of what Kelvin wanted to achieve by coming out of the closet about backstabbing Don and Susie.


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GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
January 08 2009 17:53 GMT
#2
are you don? it would seem like such incredible detail to have heard it from a friend...

anyways, maybe the kelvin guy is just not good at revenge. some people do reveal hidden plans for no apparent reason, and maybe snicker once or twice after doing so. maybe he's acting like those antagonists on tv who reveal their plans to the protagonists.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1452 Posts
January 08 2009 17:55 GMT
#3
looks like this kevin guy wants some attention
mada mada dane
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 08 2009 17:58 GMT
#4
Awful alot of I's and Me's considering your friend is Don >.>
dats racist
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 08 2009 18:01 GMT
#5
Lord Kelvin: Asshole of the office world.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
January 08 2009 18:02 GMT
#6
On January 09 2009 02:55 kAra wrote:
looks like this kevin guy wants some attention



Kelvin secretly looks up to Don, in a very attention whoring way that is at the same time dangerous because kelvin's wiling to go to extremes to get that attention. Don should flat out avoid this person if possible, its a messy situation to begin with and with a job on the line, its not worth it.
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
January 08 2009 18:04 GMT
#7
Why is Don arguing with everyone?
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 08 2009 19:09 GMT
#8
if i had a grunge i deserted i wouldn't know what i'd do.

honestly, all MvM drama should be settled with a fistfight with all bad feelings quashed afterward
manner
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-08 22:40:19
January 08 2009 22:27 GMT
#9
It's very difficult to make an accurate assessment without knowing more about both Don and Kelvin as well as the situations that occurred between them. For all we know, Kelvin could be a very mean-spirited person who does have a grudge against Don and wishes to see him fail. Or for all we know, Don may be a very thick-headed person that constantly gets into heated arguments with others and has difficulties in maturely responding to people both inside and outside of debate. I'm inclined to think that the latter is more plausible, however again, you really can't make an accurate assessment based only on what we know here.

I will say however that it's very likely that Don is confused about the situation and is probably the one who is actually holding the grudge. Early on Don seems very sure that Kelvin holds a grudge against him and wants to get him fired, with no evidence to support this other than the fact that Kelvin reported a heated debate between two co-workers. While this doesn't look good for Kelvin's case, it certainly is in no way conclusive evidence of what Don has in mind. Going behind your co-worker's backs and speaking to the boss before confronting them isn't exactly the greatest idea, and maybe Kelvin was trying to be sneaky, but again for all we know it's likely that Don is the type of person that gets very emotional and condescending when arguing with someone and Kelvin may have seen that not just in this situation but in others as well (including in his own experiences with Don) and made his judgement to report based off of that. In that case Kelvin may have done the right thing because the argument reportedly wasn't going anywhere or getting settled and likely wouldn't anytime soon, and more importantly, attitudes like that are not a good thing to have around in any workplace. This is all speculation of course, so once again, it's very difficult to assess.

If anything is certain, it seems that Don acted a bit immaturely in his response to Kelvin. He seems very sure of what Kelvin's thoughts and motives are, without making any attempts to reconcile or ask Kelvin what his thoughts or motives are. Not only that, but he treated him very condescendingly. It seems that Don is the one with the grudge based on his quickness to place Kelvin in such a low view, whereas Kelvin made a bold move of confronting Don and complimenting him on the mature thing that he did, without any kind of reported negative spin on his words. That's not the kind of behavior that someone with a grudge usually displays.

Once again for even further emphasis, this is all speculation and is impossible to accurately assess based only on what we see here, but it seems to me like Don is definitely a bit too sure of himself and is very confused and possibly a bit arrogant as well. To try to answer your question about what Kelvin hoped to achieve, I don't think that he hoped to achieve anything, it seems as if he was just handling the situation in a mature, adult-like manner. He manned up to his actions and told Don how he felt about the situation, and he commended Don for acting maturely the next day and issuing an apology. Although Kelvin should have spoken to Don and Susie before reporting them, he still manned up to what he did and handled the situation with Don very well.

I think Don is just the kind of person that loves conflict and tends to look for it even when it isn't there. That's just the vibe I get from this, but one final time, no one can really say for sure here.


EDIT: Just to clarify on what I mean about what Kelvin hopes to achieve by telling Don what he did, I mean that Kelvin probably didn't expect much to come from it, but felt that he should be upfront with Don about it once he saw that Don was capable of conducting himself maturely. I don't think that he expected an apology, I think that he just felt like he owed Don an explanation. It seems like Don expects something more from Kelvin because he doesn't agree with what Kelvin did.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 08 2009 23:23 GMT
#10
Orlandu, you are very good at deductive reasoning, you have got almost everything right about Don. i think Don owes Kelvin an apology.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
January 08 2009 23:49 GMT
#11
On January 09 2009 08:23 rei wrote:
Orlandu, you are very good at deductive reasoning, you have got almost everything right about Don. i think Don owes Kelvin an apology.


Thanks

I would agree, if nothing else Don should apologize for how he responded to Kelvin. Anything else beyond that is a separate issue. Maybe Don owes him an apology for other stuff too, maybe not, but the way in which he responded to Kelvin at least was uncalled for in my opinion.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 09 2009 00:38 GMT
#12
i would see psychiatrist if i was either one of those people
especially Don, if Kelvin is just primitive and shallow, Don is a serious case of developing schizophrenia
wouldnt be surprised to see Don walking around laughing more often
if i spoke to a person and seen him laugh and leave i would think hes retarded and leave him alone for a treatment
maybe Kelvin became a better person after this happened
plus he might be in the right from his own perspective, Don obviously is egocentric maniac with a wide variety of psychological problems, at least he is not completely lost for society( asking co-worker for forgiveness)
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
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