• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:27
CET 05:27
KST 13:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !8Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle screp: Command line app to parse SC rep files [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1588 users

What's the plan?

Blogs > Wolverine
Post a Reply
Wolverine
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
138 Posts
January 01 2009 23:41 GMT
#1
Just been reading this book by Richard Wumbrand, a guy who talks about how communism is evil, makes you wonder what you're doing about this kinda shit happening in the world?

+ Show Spoiler +
In recent years, tens of thousands of Christians and Buddhists have passed through the so-called re-education camps in Vietnam. Many are still there. In one of these camps the specialist in beatings in Tu Cao. He boasts of having whipped 2000 prisoners, 500 of whom died.

Some fifty prisoners are assembled in the prison yard. One of them, Tran Tien Tai, has been sentenced to thirty lashes. Brought naked from his cell, he must stretch out on the earth, with his face to the ground.

Tu Cao plays with his whip. He touches the hips of his victim to appreciate the resistance of the flesh and measure his strokes accordingly. He is not allowed to kill.

The prisoners are ordered to look straight at what is happening. It is forbidden to avert one's face.

After the fifth stroke, Tai, unable to bear it any longer, shouts, 'Troi oi. Chua oi. (Woe, woe, my God.)'

The beating is interrupted. The prison director says, 'It is not permitted to shout during physical punishment. The first five strokes do not count. Begin again.'

The counting starts over. One, two, three... twenty... twenty-five... Tai does not cry out anymore. It appears that he has passed away.

...Thirty. 'Up!' orders the officer. The prisoner does not move. 'You refuse to obey?' No reaction. The officer bends over the corpse and says triumphantly, 'He has committed suicide. He has bitten off his tongue and swallowed it. It is his fault. The revolution does not kill men, neither does it torture. If it punishes, it does so like a father punishing his child.'


*
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
January 01 2009 23:47 GMT
#2
Communism isn't evil in that people are tortured, it's evil cuz it redistributes everything.

Torturing people is evil in itself. They do it in the name of communism though.

Eh, shit sucks.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
January 01 2009 23:55 GMT
#3
Fucking clowns
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
January 01 2009 23:56 GMT
#4
That nerd should be whipped, see how long he "lasts"

Even 15 lashes will kill your ass if the guy whipping you is doing it vigorously

Sentencing someone to 30+ lashes with any sort of strength is tantamount to a death sentence
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 00:17:34
January 02 2009 00:16 GMT
#5
On January 02 2009 08:41 Wolverine wrote:
Just been reading this book by Richard Wumbrand, a guy who talks about how communism is evil, makes you wonder what you're doing about this kinda shit happening in the world?

+ Show Spoiler +
In recent years, tens of thousands of Christians and Buddhists have passed through the so-called re-education camps in Vietnam. Many are still there. In one of these camps the specialist in beatings in Tu Cao. He boasts of having whipped 2000 prisoners, 500 of whom died.

Some fifty prisoners are assembled in the prison yard. One of them, Tran Tien Tai, has been sentenced to thirty lashes. Brought naked from his cell, he must stretch out on the earth, with his face to the ground.

Tu Cao plays with his whip. He touches the hips of his victim to appreciate the resistance of the flesh and measure his strokes accordingly. He is not allowed to kill.

The prisoners are ordered to look straight at what is happening. It is forbidden to avert one's face.

After the fifth stroke, Tai, unable to bear it any longer, shouts, 'Troi oi. Chua oi. (Woe, woe, my God.)'

The beating is interrupted. The prison director says, 'It is not permitted to shout during physical punishment. The first five strokes do not count. Begin again.'

The counting starts over. One, two, three... twenty... twenty-five... Tai does not cry out anymore. It appears that he has passed away.

...Thirty. 'Up!' orders the officer. The prisoner does not move. 'You refuse to obey?' No reaction. The officer bends over the corpse and says triumphantly, 'He has committed suicide. He has bitten off his tongue and swallowed it. It is his fault. The revolution does not kill men, neither does it torture. If it punishes, it does so like a father punishing his child.'


Communism is not evil. It is just an idea, that simply doesn't work out because it is flawed. Stuff like this is a by-product of failed Communism.

And are you sure this still happens? I mean, the guy (Richard Wurmbrand) died in 2001. Check the publishing date on your book.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
January 02 2009 00:31 GMT
#6
On January 02 2009 09:16 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 08:41 Wolverine wrote:
Just been reading this book by Richard Wumbrand, a guy who talks about how communism is evil, makes you wonder what you're doing about this kinda shit happening in the world?

+ Show Spoiler +
In recent years, tens of thousands of Christians and Buddhists have passed through the so-called re-education camps in Vietnam. Many are still there. In one of these camps the specialist in beatings in Tu Cao. He boasts of having whipped 2000 prisoners, 500 of whom died.

Some fifty prisoners are assembled in the prison yard. One of them, Tran Tien Tai, has been sentenced to thirty lashes. Brought naked from his cell, he must stretch out on the earth, with his face to the ground.

Tu Cao plays with his whip. He touches the hips of his victim to appreciate the resistance of the flesh and measure his strokes accordingly. He is not allowed to kill.

The prisoners are ordered to look straight at what is happening. It is forbidden to avert one's face.

After the fifth stroke, Tai, unable to bear it any longer, shouts, 'Troi oi. Chua oi. (Woe, woe, my God.)'

The beating is interrupted. The prison director says, 'It is not permitted to shout during physical punishment. The first five strokes do not count. Begin again.'

The counting starts over. One, two, three... twenty... twenty-five... Tai does not cry out anymore. It appears that he has passed away.

...Thirty. 'Up!' orders the officer. The prisoner does not move. 'You refuse to obey?' No reaction. The officer bends over the corpse and says triumphantly, 'He has committed suicide. He has bitten off his tongue and swallowed it. It is his fault. The revolution does not kill men, neither does it torture. If it punishes, it does so like a father punishing his child.'


Communism is not evil. It is just an idea, that simply doesn't work out because it is flawed. Stuff like this is a by-product of failed Communism.

And are you sure this still happens? I mean, the guy (Richard Wurmbrand) died in 2001. Check the publishing date on your book.

True, the idea of communism is good imo but we`re corrupted and selfish so it cant work.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
January 02 2009 04:52 GMT
#7
On January 02 2009 09:31 barth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 09:16 Loanshark wrote:
On January 02 2009 08:41 Wolverine wrote:
Just been reading this book by Richard Wumbrand, a guy who talks about how communism is evil, makes you wonder what you're doing about this kinda shit happening in the world?

+ Show Spoiler +
In recent years, tens of thousands of Christians and Buddhists have passed through the so-called re-education camps in Vietnam. Many are still there. In one of these camps the specialist in beatings in Tu Cao. He boasts of having whipped 2000 prisoners, 500 of whom died.

Some fifty prisoners are assembled in the prison yard. One of them, Tran Tien Tai, has been sentenced to thirty lashes. Brought naked from his cell, he must stretch out on the earth, with his face to the ground.

Tu Cao plays with his whip. He touches the hips of his victim to appreciate the resistance of the flesh and measure his strokes accordingly. He is not allowed to kill.

The prisoners are ordered to look straight at what is happening. It is forbidden to avert one's face.

After the fifth stroke, Tai, unable to bear it any longer, shouts, 'Troi oi. Chua oi. (Woe, woe, my God.)'

The beating is interrupted. The prison director says, 'It is not permitted to shout during physical punishment. The first five strokes do not count. Begin again.'

The counting starts over. One, two, three... twenty... twenty-five... Tai does not cry out anymore. It appears that he has passed away.

...Thirty. 'Up!' orders the officer. The prisoner does not move. 'You refuse to obey?' No reaction. The officer bends over the corpse and says triumphantly, 'He has committed suicide. He has bitten off his tongue and swallowed it. It is his fault. The revolution does not kill men, neither does it torture. If it punishes, it does so like a father punishing his child.'


Communism is not evil. It is just an idea, that simply doesn't work out because it is flawed. Stuff like this is a by-product of failed Communism.

And are you sure this still happens? I mean, the guy (Richard Wurmbrand) died in 2001. Check the publishing date on your book.

True, the idea of communism is good imo but we`re corrupted and selfish so it cant work.


This.

A Utopian society would run with communism, but humans are far more concerned with thier own well being rather than the good of the people as a whole, thus communism can never work.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft648
PiLiPiLi 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 765
Leta 329
ZergMaN 144
Mong 23
Hm[arnc] 23
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever356
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 526
Counter-Strike
summit1g7952
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox228
Other Games
Coldzera 1043
WinterStarcraft288
ViBE128
C9.Mang0112
Trikslyr57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1176
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 4
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22324
Other Games
• Scarra1514
• Shiphtur134
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 33m
WardiTV 2025
6h 33m
Spirit vs Cure
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
8h 3m
Ladder Legends
14h 33m
BSL 21
15h 33m
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
Ladder Legends
1d 12h
BSL 21
1d 15h
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.