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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
December 02 2008 08:55 GMT
#21
i've learned so much from this thread
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 02 2008 08:59 GMT
#22
great post rekrul, thanks for sharing. i don't know much about korea since i went like, three times :/
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
December 02 2008 09:03 GMT
#23
i would imagine that you need to speak korean to interact with customers or coworkers if you do work there. if you dont speak korean, then you probably need a degree of some sort to do anything related to English or translation. so... without those, then it'll be much more difficult to land a job if you plan on living there.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
December 02 2008 09:09 GMT
#24
On December 02 2008 17:46 Rekrul wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=64142


Holy crap that was awesome.

Korea actually sounds really cheap compared to here. only 1000 a month for an apartment?
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 02 2008 09:12 GMT
#25
On December 02 2008 17:34 Rekrul wrote:
if you take all the different scum, from every country in the world, and pile them into one area...and throw in a bunch of ugly skanky korean sluts with gonnorhea, U get Itaewon.

there was a time when korea wasn't full of skanky whores
I blame shitty pop music and white people
dats racist
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 02 2008 09:16 GMT
#26
It's still not in the good areas.
why so 진지해?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 02 2008 09:17 GMT
#27
On December 02 2008 18:12 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2008 17:34 Rekrul wrote:
if you take all the different scum, from every country in the world, and pile them into one area...and throw in a bunch of ugly skanky korean sluts with gonnorhea, U get Itaewon.

there was a time when korea wasn't full of skanky whores
I blame shitty pop music and white people


white people are to blame for pretty much everything

im white and whitey keeps me down all the time
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-02 09:58:03
December 02 2008 09:55 GMT
#28
You can live very cheaply in Seoul if you figure out the right places to shop for food etc - utility bills are also very inexpensive here (at least in comparison to England.) However, I think your main issue would be a visa seen as you're looking to neither teach, run your own business or work as a diplomat etc - and because you don't speak Korean. I'm pretty sure they don't allow people to come here to work as anything besides a limited number of professions - the most usual of those being as a teacher.

I'd check that out before you start thinking about living costs. Also working illegally here isn't a good idea - they've been cracking down on illegal teaching/private lessons in the last couple of years so it's really not worth the risk.

I'm also in total agreement with Rekrul - Itaewon is scummy. I don't know why people like it so much. My friends said it's because of the bookstore and foreign food shop, but you can go elsewhere for 90% of the items you can find there. It's just one boring street which looks really dirty in the day time.

I much prefer to go to shopping districts like Myeongdong, Namdaemun (for the market) and Gangnam (good food ^^.)
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Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-02 10:06:25
December 02 2008 10:02 GMT
#29
Seoul can be a dirt cheap place to live imo. (and also really really fucking expensive). But if you're happy with a no frills life for a while the only financial consideration is accommodation imo.
As Susie says, north of the river is generally much cheaper than south. I reckon you can get a minimalistic but perfectly habitable place for 300,000 a month.

As you know already the job-hunting will be quite hard. I have seen literally ONE foreigner working in food/drink places. And he was a guy who could speak Korean fluently and was in fact the owner of the bar. I think the jobs that you would have a chance with in these places are the backroom staff because you wouldn't be able to communicate with the patrons.

Koreans put an incredible amount of emphasis on your educational background, especially uni degree. I know quite a few foreigners here and 99% of them are doing something requiring a degree.

There is more I want to say but I don't want to completely fuck up your hopes with negativism. (although imo its would be realism not pessimism)

HEY SHIT: I just had a brainwave. Have you considered working in the US military posts. These places are just like little Americas and the biggest one is in Yongsan (middle of Seoul). 90% of people in these places are US citizens so the requirement for Korean skills should be less of an issue.

Edit: oh crap. nevergg just mentioned the most important thing which i forgot which is the visa.

Edit2: Itaewon is indeed the bull's backside of Seoul.
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
December 02 2008 10:12 GMT
#30
On December 02 2008 18:03 29 fps wrote:
i would imagine that you need to speak korean to interact with customers or coworkers if you do work there. if you dont speak korean, then you probably need a degree of some sort to do anything related to English or translation. so... without those, then it'll be much more difficult to land a job if you plan on living there.


This is right.

Mr reaver seems to be a little bit ignorant to the fact that 90% of korean's only speak korean and there is no chance of him getting a job like he mentioned. I think korean wages for low level jobs begin somewhere around 3000won per hour ($2 USD with current exchange rate) and average salary is much lower than usa in general. Their currency is so raped right now that it's not a good place to be working period (but a very good place to be living in while earning US poker dollars).

To give you some kind of hope I can tell you that there are english teachers in korea without degrees who either teach privately (1on1) or who work at an institute in a classroom setting under the table.

Regarding expenses in korea; it is a place where it's possible to live an extremely cheap life style taking the subway, living on the other side of the river, eating ramyun, and drinking soju (<2k/month) and a place that is possible to live an extremely expensive life style taking personalized escort taxis, living in a gangnam high rise, 0215445478 delivery 3x a day, and drinking night club whiskey (~10k/month). I've experienced and enjoyed both the expensive and the cheap life style (except I never lived on the other side of the river... fuck that).
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 02 2008 10:41 GMT
#31
ahhh the private drivers of smuft

gotta love those badass cabs

they run red lights infront of cops and speed away thru dark alley short cuts not stoping for any pedestrians

quality service
why so 진지해?
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
December 02 2008 10:42 GMT
#32
i used to live in gang nam back in korea, then moved to vancouver... and i'm sure you'll like the states better. Yes, it has starcraft (the most important thing obv). Yes, it has the Korean girls who will be willing to watch you play starcraft. and Yes, playing starcraft on a date is viable.

But Korea isn't some random country where a foreign man without a degree or some special skill can easily get a decent job, and keep it for a relatively long time. The education in Korea is extremely competitive. It will be MUCH easier to get into a local college for a year, transfer to a decent college, and then get a degree to find other jobs.

If you are just REALLY in love with Korea and just want to live there, then I would recommend going to college that offer exchange student program to korean universities. Then you can live in Korea for 6 months~1 yr. See how it is, if you think you can adjust to the lifestyle in korea, and maybe find out more while living there.

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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-02 12:46:24
December 02 2008 12:45 GMT
#33
Don't go Korea unless you :

Are going to a pro team

Play poker and have friends there

Are already rich

Have money to invest in a joint venture

Have a degree and an organisation welcoming you there and offering you salary and housing opportunities

Have relatives living there

Are a whatever watersports pro - star - teacher - and got an opportunity teaching it in Busan

Tourist visiting for a few weeks


KOREA AIN'T CHEAP


Besides, as far as low living expenses lifestyle goes, even if you somehow get by your own self under the 1.5k usd /month mark, unless you have some friends over there it's gonna be tough.


I mean Korea's awesome, but you need money.

As it was previously stated :

People don't talk english

People don't work in ENGLISH

People don't hire foreigners in restaurants unless you're the cousin of a mexican US army drop out that resides in an underground itaewon dump eating fried rats for supper and that owns his own nacho place.
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-02 13:03:31
December 02 2008 13:03 GMT
#34
wow you rich people make korea sound 100% better from a exchange-students perspective. I guess money does make everything better.

Anyways going to korea as an exchange student, you'll live a cheap/inexpensive life but its your friends that you meet here that make the experience interesting.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
December 02 2008 13:31 GMT
#35
Wow that's pretty expensive. I spend about $7-800 per month in Canada :o

I still want to go for the experience and teach english or something while I'm there but not sure if a teaching job will be able to cover my living costs now haha

I guess having relatives there will chop down the costs by a lot?
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MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
December 02 2008 14:00 GMT
#36
If you're American find a way to see if you can work at the American bases in Korea without having to enlist in the Army.

Otherwise, get an English-teaching job. I've had extensive tutoring jobs in Korea as a high school and college student so a degree isn't necessary.


Honestly, you should get a college degree than apply for a position at Seoul Foreign School. The school provides a nice 2 Bedroom lodging for all faculty members. Plus, you get paid in dollars, which used to be awesome before the US economy started sucking. On top of that, you'll be surrounded by an English-speaking community.


If you want a really cheap place to rent, you could also check out Incheon. It's right next to Seoul and rental prices there will be at least half of what they cost in Seoul. The downside is that it takes an hour to commute by subway.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
December 02 2008 14:15 GMT
#37
The dollar-won currency rate is pretty important, and as smuft said, the times are bad to work in Korea.

If you can get a job in the military camps (without enlisting) though, you'd be getting an american wage, and can spend it well now that the won is cheap.

Also, it's gonna be hard getting a visa without that US military job lol.

good luck
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
December 02 2008 14:16 GMT
#38
On December 02 2008 21:45 Boonbag wrote:
Don't go Korea unless you :

Are going to a pro team

Play poker and have friends there

Are already rich

Have money to invest in a joint venture

Have a degree and an organisation welcoming you there and offering you salary and housing opportunities

Have relatives living there

Are a whatever watersports pro - star - teacher - and got an opportunity teaching it in Busan

Tourist visiting for a few weeks




or unless you have a:

pretty face and can live off that

LOL?
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 02 2008 14:19 GMT
#39
--;
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
December 02 2008 14:26 GMT
#40
On December 02 2008 23:00 MayorITC wrote:
If you're American find a way to see if you can work at the American bases in Korea without having to enlist in the Army.

Otherwise, get an English-teaching job. I've had extensive tutoring jobs in Korea as a high school and college student so a degree isn't necessary.


Honestly, you should get a college degree than apply for a position at Seoul Foreign School. The school provides a nice 2 Bedroom lodging for all faculty members. Plus, you get paid in dollars, which used to be awesome before the US economy started sucking. On top of that, you'll be surrounded by an English-speaking community.


If you want a really cheap place to rent, you could also check out Incheon. It's right next to Seoul and rental prices there will be at least half of what they cost in Seoul. The downside is that it takes an hour to commute by subway.


The (University) degree is definitely necessary for all foreigners wanting to teach in hagwons, public or University institutions - you won't even get an interview without it because it's a basic requirement of a teaching visa here. I'm not sure about the specific institute you mentioned, but a degree is the first thing they ask for along with 2 copies of your sealed university transcripts.
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