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How the heck does cheese ever work
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On November 19 2008 19:19 SpiralArchitect wrote: First off try being Boxer. But yeah, on iCCup I usually expect people to cheese me. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On November 19 2008 19:29 H_ wrote: But yeah, on iCCup I usually expect people to cheese me. dammit t.t | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On November 19 2008 20:47 intrigue wrote: the first thing iccup teaches a new ladder player is cheese defense. successfully cheesing a player that is at the same level as you gets more and more difficult. yeah it gets more and more difficult. Imagine the difficulty at progamer level. This is why Boxers and Nal_ras cheeses are so damn amazing. | ||
Chill
Calgary25991 Posts
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vAltyR
United States581 Posts
Frankly, I make it a point not to cheese. I try to practice my standard play as much as possible, because it's so much more satisfying to stop a n00b with 3 control groups of zealots, goons, and maybe a reaver or two than to win with like 5 zealots. (insert 1a2a3a joke here) Hey, it worked for iloveoov... though granted i have done a proxy double robo on one of my friends before... hehehe. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
that's gotta be an awkward confrontation | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:21 anderoo wrote: I wonder what it's like when a terran is 2 raxing mid map and a toss is 99 gating mid map that's gotta be an awkward confrontation I did that vs my friend on fastest haha, he won but hes D lvl and im C- T_T (he was the protoss ofc) | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:21 anderoo wrote: I wonder what it's like when a terran is 2 raxing mid map and a toss is 99 gating mid map that's gotta be an awkward confrontation That's actually happened to me a couple times, because I prefer cheese and fast games rather than long macro build ups. Its basically all up to how well Terran can micro his marines and if he sends in a couple of scvs or not. Makes it for a pretty intense game if your opponent is good and knows what to do. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On November 20 2008 00:17 Chill wrote: k youre bad you dont need to blog about it. LOLOL | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
For example, many progamers 2 gate proxy on blue storm PvP and PvT, they expect to be scouted and countered, but also expect to deal moderate to large damage to opponents economy while building up their own economy/tech to get ahead. Cheesing is actually pretty difficult if you aren't comfortable with it, the only tip is to cheese more and analyze on how make it failsafe. Most cheeses, especially with protoss are supposed to be failsafe against almost any build. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On November 20 2008 02:48 IzzyCraft wrote: How does 2nd hatch inside my main into pool into mass ling mass expo win me a c rank. IT JUST DOES vs T? I would never lose to that and im C- so.... | ||
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meathook
1289 Posts
On November 20 2008 02:48 IzzyCraft wrote: How does 2nd hatch inside my main into pool into mass ling mass expo win me a c rank. IT JUST DOES Lols. I hate that build. | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
On November 20 2008 02:48 IzzyCraft wrote: How does 2nd hatch inside my main into pool into mass ling mass expo win me a c rank. IT JUST DOES vs P it's amazing, because 2 cannons doesn't defend well against 3 control groups of lings >.> and if you transition into hydra fast enough, you can just drone up and expand like sin, and most C level players can't deal with it. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:06 Zoler wrote: yeah it gets more and more difficult. Imagine the difficulty at progamer level. This is why Boxers and Nal_ras cheeses are so damn amazing. yeah, very true | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
It makes you worst than Hitler but is so easy to pull off against D players. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:21 anderoo wrote: I wonder what it's like when a terran is 2 raxing mid map and a toss is 99 gating mid map that's gotta be an awkward confrontation something like that happened once, except it was center 9/9 gate vs center 9/9 gate on coliseum I think it was much vs bisu | ||
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klizzer
517 Posts
Try it out like last time. With a touchpad. Yes, and seriously, the first thing on iccup I always do is to check for proxy gates/raxx or 5-7 pool. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On November 19 2008 20:47 intrigue wrote: the first thing iccup teaches a new ladder player is cheese defense. successfully cheesing a player that is at the same level as you gets more and more difficult. Strange, because the only time in 200+ iccup games I have been cheesed was a 5pool. Ive never had a terran or a toss cheese me. (I play toss) | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
On November 20 2008 06:07 Mastermind wrote: Strange, because the only time in 200+ iccup games I have been cheesed was a 5pool. Ive never had a terran or a toss cheese me. (I play toss) You sir walk with angels on your shoulders, or lag extremely bad  .I think I've had about 1/6 games cheese on iccup in the last year. So I would say out of 3k games, 450-500 of cheese seems about right. More cheese at D/D+ and C+/B- en at C-/C imo. | ||
micronesia
United States24752 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:17 Chill wrote: k youre bad you dont need to blog about it. I thought the same thing based on that (brief) OP... Except I'd say you stink at cheesing lol. | ||
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
On November 19 2008 19:19 SpiralArchitect wrote: First off try being Terran. I find that proxy rax into a bunker rush is much easier to pull off than a proxy gateway sort of deal. lol, u can easily cheese to D+ when your a terran  if not farther... | ||
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meathook
1289 Posts
On November 20 2008 06:07 Mastermind wrote: Strange, because the only time in 200+ iccup games I have been cheesed was a 5pool. Ive never had a terran or a toss cheese me. (I play toss) Are you sure you play the same iccup as everyone else? Or is it that you cheesed every time during those 199 games before encountering someone who actually cheesed before you even got the chance (that person in turn was on his 199th game of cheese)? Circle of evil. . . | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:17 Chill wrote: k youre bad you dont need to blog about it. lol chill you're so mean | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
I am slightly picky when choosing opponents though. If I say hi in the pre-game chat and they don't say anything back (even gl hf gogo is fine) I kick them. | ||
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