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My ICCUP touchpad experiment....

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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 22:14:02
November 18 2008 22:13 GMT
#1
So, being a college student who is sometimes stuck in the library or elsewhere without a mouse cause I forgot to bring one, and yet at the same time happen upon a desire for some ICCUP, I decided to see how far I could get playing on my laptop without a mouse! I played 11 games yesterday, a mix of T/Z/P, as follows:

Currently: 8-3 ; 1824 D
T: 4-0 TvZ /// 0-3 TvP /// 1-0 TvT
Z: 2-0 ZvP
P: 1-0 PvP

So, it really ticks me off when all the P's ever do on BlueStorm vs my T is cheese me to no end t.t
And then I try to micro against it, but fail miserably cause no mouse micro sucks ASS =/. So, to all those protosses out there, please remember; reused cheese tastes really bad! Don't use it! =)

Playing with touchpad is really interesting, since I can't spam my ass off, I actually have to start using apm in a useful manner, and in general pay more attention to the minimap and stuff, all of which are things I traditionally ignored, or kept forgetting about in game. Also, it makes me focus more on strategy, and less on blatant macro macro macro macro (cause my micro always sucked XD). So, it's been a pretty good workout/training of BW skills that I never really developed. I think I'll keep this up and see how high my rating can get like this ^o^

Rep Pack!
http://www.2shared.com/file/4306113/fd883c8a/TouchpaddingReps1.html

Oh, and APM readouts from the games...in chronological order:
176L 181W 167L 170W 175W 228W 240L 203W 174W 200W 252W

I'll try to get on and play a couple of games per day this week, dunno how that will go though, have a shizton of reading and papers to do T_T. But if I'm on, I'll see you uys in op irc on iccup!

Kami
Profile Joined July 2008
United States127 Posts
November 18 2008 22:16 GMT
#2
Wow, 200 apm with a touchpad. Sounds impossible though. Winning with a touchpads sounds impossible too, unless you're bashing on some D- noobs.
Dewis
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Finland344 Posts
November 18 2008 22:16 GMT
#3
Nice, I would go totally nuts if I was forced to play BW without a real mouse.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
November 18 2008 22:17 GMT
#4
This may be an interesting way to better your macro, since it would be tough as nails to macro with the mouse (clicking each factory/rax) so it's probably easier to 4m5m6m7m7e8e9e or something
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 18 2008 22:17 GMT
#5
Wow that's actually really impressive. I always attach a mouse to my laptop, so my touch-pad skills are almost non-existent.
No I'm never serious.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 22:21:02
November 18 2008 22:20 GMT
#6
My APM was 55 and 68 when playing against a computer, and then a newbie friend, respectively. I won both games, but seriously, I could never win a game on iccup with my touchpad. It can take me 10 seconds just to select one building, and the only reason I can macro is the keyboard.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
November 18 2008 22:23 GMT
#7
omg PLEASE post a video of yourself playing with a touchpad. i can't imagine it.
i need 2 hands to use the touchpad on my laptop how can you use hotkeys and stuff then and get this high apm (I have 130 apm and im C+ish)
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 18 2008 22:24 GMT
#8
On November 19 2008 07:17 Salv wrote:
This may be an interesting way to better your macro, since it would be tough as nails to macro with the mouse (clicking each factory/rax) so it's probably easier to 4m5m6m7m7e8e9e or something


Yea, I've ended up either actually having good building placement for once (lol) so I can f2 the cluster of unit producing buildings, or using 5-8 for barracks.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7325 Posts
November 18 2008 22:25 GMT
#9
amazing

almost as amazing as cyrax and his trackball
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 18 2008 22:25 GMT
#10
On November 19 2008 07:23 MasterReY wrote:
omg PLEASE post a video of yourself playing with a touchpad. i can't imagine it.
i need 2 hands to use the touchpad on my laptop how can you use hotkeys and stuff then and get this high apm (I have 130 apm and im C+ish)



Hmm I don't have a vid cam, but I guess I could record fpvod of a game. What's a good freely available software for such a purpose?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 18 2008 22:30 GMT
#11
On November 19 2008 07:16 Kami wrote:
Wow, 200 apm with a touchpad. Sounds impossible though. Winning with a touchpads sounds impossible too, unless you're bashing on some D- noobs.


Well, usually 40-50% of my apm is hotkeys, with average around 44-45%. It's just the way I play I guess =/
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 18 2008 22:34 GMT
#12
I think camtasia has free trial.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
November 18 2008 22:54 GMT
#13
On November 19 2008 07:23 MasterReY wrote:
(I have 130 apm and im C+ish)

only with protoss...
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
November 18 2008 22:54 GMT
#14
heh u''ve gotten better since the last time i've seen you
must be that 200 IQ kicking in or whatever u have lul
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
November 18 2008 23:05 GMT
#15
On November 19 2008 07:54 caelym wrote:
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On November 19 2008 07:23 MasterReY wrote:
(I have 130 apm and im C+ish)

only with protoss...

sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 23:05:30
November 18 2008 23:05 GMT
#16
I can't even begin to attempt SC with a touchpad... Amazing, just amazing.

On November 19 2008 08:05 YPang wrote:
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On November 19 2008 07:54 caelym wrote:
On November 19 2008 07:23 MasterReY wrote:
(I have 130 apm and im C+ish)

only with protoss...


shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
November 18 2008 23:29 GMT
#17
wTF? how do you get such high apm with a touchpad..
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
November 19 2008 00:00 GMT
#18
highest apm i got with touchpad is 150, and best rank is C-.

<_< good luck. we should play sometime. my id on iccup is touchpad
555, kthxbai
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-19 00:09:09
November 19 2008 00:08 GMT
#19
On November 19 2008 08:05 Archaic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 08:05 YPang wrote:
On November 19 2008 07:54 caelym wrote:
On November 19 2008 07:23 MasterReY wrote:
(I have 130 apm and im C+ish)

only with protoss...




So what? That doesn't mean anything for christ's sake. I have aroun 120 apm with protoss (which is my main) and about 150 apm with Terran, which I play A LOT less. Having more apm with terran just comes natural. So being able to be 130 amp C+ could mean that he would be 160+- apm with Terran at C+, which is not really that bad/"imbalanced".
Freedom is a stranger
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
November 19 2008 00:20 GMT
#20
Didn't you have a mouse at the Duke LAN? Were you borrowing one from someone or did I just not notice? ><
내 호버크라프트는 장어로 가득 차 있어요
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