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letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
November 03 2008 04:33 GMT
#141
You need to learn some respect for your parent kid.
I dun give a damn if she invaded your privacy or not, she's your mother and naturally as a son you should show her respect.
hehe...
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
November 03 2008 04:42 GMT
#142
lol this is such a shitty blog and it goes under one of those whoops i regret saying that later moments
troi oi thang map nai!!!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2008 04:57 GMT
#143
On November 03 2008 12:57 Suggestion Box wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 03 2008 11:32 Suggestion Box wrote:
Okay so inc, you say that we don't do what he did. Yet we felt exactly how he did? How do you know? How do you know? You want to assume you and everyone have the same experience as him but are simply better people. We just don't know. Maybe his mom IS a cunt. Did you ever think about that? Some women are cunts are they not? Or is the term a referent to a fictional kind of person? I don't think it is a mythical creature. And surely some of them have children. it's not completely unfeasable that he is right. You guys act like he is calling YOUR mother a cunt.


No, we act like he is a terrible poster.

If you make a terrible post, filled with whining and bad attitude, and you expect NOT to be criticized, you're an idiot.

No, I think my description is more accurate. People here are acting like he's attacking their mom. They know nothing about his mom. He could be right about her. You have no idea what she is. She could be Bin Laden for all we know. So unless you would never make a post like this about any possible person, past, present, or future, you probably are off base acting like he's "ungrateful" etc. Being born isn't always a gift you guys. Imagine the worst possible life and worst possible person and then imagine she's your mother and then ask yourself whether you'd be ungrateful at making some angry post on the internet.

I don't know if he expected not to be criticized, or whether he's an idiot or not, or whether we should conclude he's an idiot merely from expecting not to be criticized, etc. In fact I don't think you've said much of anything here or anywhere else in this thread.

I don't think his post was terrible if that's what you mean. Even if he's an idiot I think it was more fun having him post, esp. since this is a blog. It's not like he didn't put forth the effort in making this blog have substance. He put forth a good deal of effort--more than the responses have. So it's not a bad blog in that sense.

From the responses my only conclusion is that his emotions towards his mother are offensive to you, but you haven't really offered more than half-assed condemnations. If he's so pitiable and condemnable at least express your thought in a way that will compel someone who doesn't already 100% think the same as you.

Some effort please or don't post?


I think it's fairly obvious that his reaction was temperamental and irrational. That his post was obnoxious and whiny.

If you disagree now, you're never going to agree, so I don't really care enough to put forth some debate. That's my opinion, and yours is yours, and really it's a matter of perspective.

My view of rationality isn't necessarily correct, and neither is yours. It's pointless to even argue about this, in fact I think this blog should be closed/deleted.
RIP Aaliyah
Suggestion Box
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
China115 Posts
November 03 2008 05:16 GMT
#144
Why do you think this blog should be closed/deleted? [The way you structured your response, I would guess--Because you say it's pointless to argue about rationality (your view is that he's irrational)? Or some other completely unstated reason?--but I think this is only a stylistic structure and in reality you gave no reason and the call to close/delete this blog seems completely unsupported and unconnected to any ideas in your post--in odd case that you insist on putting the reason I guessed forward it will obviously lead to absurdity].

You say that he's irrational. I think we could debate that.

You say we have different views of rationality. I think we could debate that.

You say we can't debate views of rationality. I think we could debate that, too.

I also don't think calling his post "obviously temperamental, irrational, obnoxious, whiny" is even a response to my previous post, but is more of the same, careless empty contributions I was criticizing in my previous post.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 05:30:48
November 03 2008 05:30 GMT
#145
On November 03 2008 14:16 Suggestion Box wrote:
Why do you think this blog should be closed/deleted? [The way you structured your response, I would guess--Because you say it's pointless to argue about rationality (your view is that he's irrational)? Or some other completely unstated reason?--but I think this is only a stylistic structure and in reality you gave no reason and the call to close/delete this blog seems completely unsupported and unconnected to any ideas in your post--in odd case that you insist on putting the reason I guessed forward it will obviously lead to absurdity].

You say that he's irrational. I think we could debate that.

You say we have different views of rationality. I think we could debate that.

You say we can't debate views of rationality. I think we could debate that, too.

I also don't think calling his post "obviously temperamental, irrational, obnoxious, whiny" is even a response to my previous post, but is more of the same, careless empty contributions I was criticizing in my previous post.


There is no point debating something based in perspective rather than fact. No matter what you do or say, I find his reaction irrational. I don't see emotional outburts the same way you do. Do you really think you have a such a shit-hot argument you can change that?

We could debate it, but it's a waste of time. This blog isn't accomplishing anything but pissing people off. Why not delete/close it? It's just going to start flame wars.
RIP Aaliyah
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
November 03 2008 06:03 GMT
#146
On November 02 2008 12:59 Suggestion Box wrote:
I gather that, your mom is stupid, your girlfriend's dad is stupid, and you are angry. I think it's frustrating living with stupid people, especially if they are your parents. You should probably steal from them (as long as it can never be proven in court) and then move somewhere cheap.

Also it is funny that people here are insulting you because of how effectively you express anger and frustration via swear words. I think you are writing perfectly.


On November 03 2008 11:32 Suggestion Box wrote:
Okay so inc, you say that we don't do what he did. Yet we felt exactly how he did? How do you know? How do you know? You want to assume you and everyone have the same experience as him but are simply better people. We just don't know. Maybe his mom IS a cunt. Did you ever think about that? Some women are cunts are they not? Or is the term a referent to a fictional kind of person? I don't think it is a mythical creature. And surely some of them have children. it's not completely unfeasable that he is right. You guys act like he is calling YOUR mother a cunt.


At least our assumptions have grounds. There's no way you can say that his mother or his girlfriend's dad is "stupid" based off of his irrational post. In fact, it suggests the opposite. How do I know he is irrational? Because normally, rational people do not threaten to kill their parents, no matter what the circumstances. That's common sense =p.
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
November 03 2008 06:44 GMT
#147
On November 03 2008 12:57 Suggestion Box wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 11:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 03 2008 11:32 Suggestion Box wrote:
Okay so inc, you say that we don't do what he did. Yet we felt exactly how he did? How do you know? How do you know? You want to assume you and everyone have the same experience as him but are simply better people. We just don't know. Maybe his mom IS a cunt. Did you ever think about that? Some women are cunts are they not? Or is the term a referent to a fictional kind of person? I don't think it is a mythical creature. And surely some of them have children. it's not completely unfeasable that he is right. You guys act like he is calling YOUR mother a cunt.


No, we act like he is a terrible poster.

If you make a terrible post, filled with whining and bad attitude, and you expect NOT to be criticized, you're an idiot.

No, I think my description is more accurate. People here are acting like he's attacking their mom. They know nothing about his mom. He could be right about her. You have no idea what she is. She could be Bin Laden for all we know. So unless you would never make a post like this about any possible person, past, present, or future, you probably are off base acting like he's "ungrateful" etc. Being born isn't always a gift you guys. Imagine the worst possible life and worst possible person and then imagine she's your mother and then ask yourself whether you'd be ungrateful at making some angry post on the internet.

I don't know if he expected not to be criticized, or whether he's an idiot or not, or whether we should conclude he's an idiot merely from expecting not to be criticized, etc. In fact I don't think you've said much of anything here or anywhere else in this thread.

I don't think his post was terrible if that's what you mean. Even if he's an idiot I think it was more fun having him post, esp. since this is a blog. It's not like he didn't put forth the effort in making this blog have substance. He put forth a good deal of effort--more than the responses have. So it's not a bad blog in that sense.

From the responses my only conclusion is that his emotions towards his mother are offensive to you, but you haven't really offered more than half-assed condemnations. If he's so pitiable and condemnable at least express your thought in a way that will compel someone who doesn't already 100% think the same as you.

Some effort please or don't post?


So, after reading all the replies to the OP you really think that way?

-1000pts
Treatin' fools since '87
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
November 03 2008 06:53 GMT
#148
Debate for the sake of debate isn't possible here - its not a real life situation. Why fight for him. You dont even know him rofl. Would you argue his point if he said that in person to everyone that replied to his post? If you would then your a fucking idiot.

Fact of the matter is, if I (or anyone with a good conscience) heard someone say that in person, with the same amount of curses etc. I'd trip out. Who wouldn't? Those are the kinda stories where you say to yourself: "What a trashy piece of shit."
Treatin' fools since '87
Suggestion Box
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
China115 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 07:53:51
November 03 2008 07:51 GMT
#149
He didn't say it in person. He posted it on the internet. And the title is "it's called fucking arrogant satire you bitch." Nobody thinking about this at all? More 1-liners saying nothing new; nobody answered any of my points. I'm out.

If anyone wants me to destroy any of the above "arguments" all you have to do is convince me that anyone will read it, since right now the evidence seems to go the other way. I'm withholding further comment until I feel like the effort will be worth it; being silenced not by ideas but by non-readers spamming their opinions. Congrats, you've shouted down someone who thought differently than you without showing any merit for your thoughts to anyone.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 03 2008 08:41 GMT
#150
suggestion box.. you picked your name ironically. I suggest that you consider the point someone made fairly recent regarding the perpondurance of evidence and how it weighs heavily in favor of the side arguing his (the OP's) immaturity and irresponsible reaction to what his mother did. You can go all rogue on us and side with the blind assertion that maybe his mom deserves to be killed 9 different ways and have her throat slit but I am going to go ahead and assume that it is never the time or place to make said threats.. I don't care what she did.

Also your cop-out with "you all spammed thoughts without reading my post" is such an amazingly naive and noobish forum characteristic that I don't even know where to begin. Lets just assume for a second that the 3-4 people that vocally disagree with you and are quoting you and arguing the line by line did in fact read what you said and probably didn't just attach meaning to pretty shapes and amazingly get it semi if not completely right.

But you seem to be a fan of radically implausible numbers so maybe it isn't safe for me to suggest you lean away from the impossibly unlikely scenario.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 09:07:31
November 03 2008 09:07 GMT
#151
It's conceivable that his mom could be in the wrong. There are mothers out there who sexually abuse their children, which is pretty much magnitudes of orders worse than a mother for which all the claims of the OP would actually apply and probably rarer still, and there's hundreds of them out there, so claiming that it's "impossibly unlikely" that his mom could be that bad probably isn't right.

I'm not saying that this necessarily is one of the cases; it's probably not, but it could possibly be the case.

And in any case, this thread isn't about calling him a terrible/immature poster as some of said or trying to shake him out from what is clearly an irrational state of mind (I am pretty sure this is the case) triggered by problems of unknown degree, but about everybody telling him he's a piece of shit in the harshest possible terms.
But why?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 03 2008 09:26 GMT
#152
So.. if your mom sexually abuses you you cut her throat and kill her 9 different ways?

And you were right to think that probably isn't the case. But I dunno.. maybe you are on to something? Maybe she murdered all his friends and made him eat their remains. Maybe she then raped him with a lead pipe and forced him to drink his own assblood. That could be possible. Again, probably didn't happen.. in fact everything he complains about in his blog indicates far more normal causes of frustration.. but lets go ahead and give him a giant fucking chunk of the benefit of doubt.. and just go ahead and assume things that even he didn't claim. Lets fucking hop into makebelieve world and yank things that COULD BE POSSIBLE and apply them to what WE DO KNOW and warp it into a situation where WE COULD BE RIGHT.

HOLY FUCK.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 11:32:03
November 03 2008 11:28 GMT
#153
I didn't say that her mother sexually abused him, murdered his friends, or raped him with a lead pipe. I only used it to make a probability argument by illustrating (perhaps with a unwisely chosen example) that there are quite a few bad parents out there.

I said that the chance that his mother is hellish enough to revise the opinion of him as a spoiled brat without enough respect for his mother to somebody with a slightly more legitimate claim is probably less than the chance that his mother is a child molester. Since this second probability is non-negligible, it follows that the first chance is non-negligible as it is far more likely, and substantially so - there are many, many broken homes and abusive parents out there. It's a possibility, and you're free to make the case that it's not likely, but I wouldn't ascribe a zero probability to it. You can.

Moving away from the subject, and assuming that his mother is an eminently reasonable person...

If that's the case the OP is a huge dick and, well, enough people have elaborated on it so that I don't have to go into detail. There might be more to it than that, there might not. I'm pretty sure that posting the OP is a fairly substantial overreaction, to say the least. But even if he is simply blowing everything grossly out of proportion and bitching to the internet about it (which clearly isn't smart because the hilarious thing to do to emo people bitching on the internet is convince them to commit suicide) I would have reservations about just throwing pages and pages of abuse and vitriol at him; the majority of this thread doesn't quite fall into that category, but there's lots of it.
But why?
Suggestion Box
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
China115 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 13:34:42
November 03 2008 13:26 GMT
#154
On November 03 2008 17:41 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
suggestion box.. you picked your name ironically. I suggest that you consider the point someone made fairly recent regarding the perpondurance of evidence and how it weighs heavily in favor of the side arguing his (the OP's) immaturity and irresponsible reaction to what his mother did. You can go all rogue on us and side with the blind assertion that maybe his mom deserves to be killed 9 different ways and have her throat slit but I am going to go ahead and assume that it is never the time or place to make said threats.. I don't care what she did.


(name, comment that has nothing to do with anything but could lead to a series of OT questions, responses, discussions, five more issues more distant from the OP and any prior post for that matter than anything even posted in Blogs let alone this one), I suggest you consider some point which I will rephrase here but you have no idea where it is or what it really says without going through eight pages looking for what I'm talking about but not clarifying which may or may not even really exist because I'm a known troll. You can (things you didn't do--but I'll say you did), etc. fallacies.

Okay you haven't convinced me to respond to your entire post let alone the aforementioned ones that need responding to. See my previous post or two in this thread if you're interested in this, otherwise I'm still leaving this one.

edit: I'm sure you have some good points, and others do too, but until they are posted well I'm not going to put forth the effort to extract them from your posts. I will, however, educate you on some logical mistakes you're making if you convince me you're sincerely interested in learning where you're going so wrong. I suspect you don't care though, and are just posting your own emotions--the same thing you're faulting this pretty typical teen for doing, albeit maybe over the top (such is the way of this internet generation).
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 03 2008 13:38 GMT
#155
Arrogant satire isn't a real phrase.
No I'm never serious.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
November 03 2008 14:01 GMT
#156
HI I am a canadian and i can kill you!
-Can what?
Canadian...
I've got a point, and i'm ready to kill or die for it.
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
November 03 2008 15:32 GMT
#157
Someone check Suggestion Box's IP, please. rofl

Only reason to argue for the OP here, is if you were the OP lol
Treatin' fools since '87
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
November 03 2008 15:47 GMT
#158
ROFL @ THIS RANT.....I wonder who's rant will overcome this one this month.
ya had ya shot kid!
fgsvsd
Profile Joined June 2007
Switzerland348 Posts
November 03 2008 16:18 GMT
#159
On November 04 2008 00:32 NastyMarine wrote:
Someone check Suggestion Box's IP, please. rofl

Only reason to argue for the OP here, is if you were the OP lol
ROFL ROFL AHAHA!!!!!
DAMN YOUR FDUNNY.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 03 2008 16:24 GMT
#160
Suggestion box you speak with an amazingly condenscending tone.. especially odd for a guy who has no integrity around here or can ever presume on any kind of name-base merit to be telling me that you can educate me or anything. Who the fuck are you to know the situation of the OP more so than the rest of us who have all probably had more experience with the OP as a poster and are reading the same OP post and gaining a completely different point of view? You think you are so fucking special that when we see a square you see a circle and by God you will hold it until we come to our senses and word our thoughts in a way that is more aesthetically pleasing to you? Some fucking random guy who chose this thread to post 66% of his posts in? No.. I am not going to work any harder than I like to try and knock some sense into the two guys who are willing to side with the notion that the mother is a "cunt" and deserves to be told she will be murdered for reasons probably not stated.. makes me rofl to think that these people would then presume to tell me they can't be bothered with our posts.
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