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Part 1: ICCUP - My Life on the D- List

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Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 06:20:43
October 03 2008 09:01 GMT
#1


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inb4RUSH
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden85 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 09:18:42
October 03 2008 09:17 GMT
#2
On October 03 2008 18:01 jpunshon wrote:
so I will write about my experiences on ICCUP, and my quest to become a solid D player, then C, then B, and hopefully (though the chance is slim) an A class Zerg.


Then this blog will be long, I bid you good luck and will look for any updates on this particular matter.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
October 03 2008 09:19 GMT
#3
attempting to use pro-like strategies without pro-like mechanics

at least u can 5 pool?
do that against protoss
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Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 03 2008 09:32 GMT
#4
On October 03 2008 18:19 Ki_Do wrote:
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attempting to use pro-like strategies without pro-like mechanics

at least u can 5 pool?
do that against protoss


yeh i have done some 5 pools, but one cannot 5 pool every game! i actually want to get good, which involves pulling proper builds and winning in the mid/late game.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
October 03 2008 09:37 GMT
#5
Got any real life friends who play? Even if they are not that good, a C can help a totally new player very rapidly.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 03 2008 09:43 GMT
#6
On October 03 2008 18:37 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Got any real life friends who play? Even if they are not that good, a C can help a totally new player very rapidly.


I have some, and they have helped me out with builds etc, but my main problem is mechanics, speed and decision making. You cannot really be "taught" that type of stuff I don't think.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
October 03 2008 10:13 GMT
#7
Decision making can definitely be helped by someone knowledgeable. Speed and mechanics come from practice and there's very little you can do about that. Even if you use shortcut techniques like some people suggest on TL, like the playing-at-300APM-vs-computers technique, it still takes lots of practice. So just play a ton. Decision making will generally be a matter of watching replays with situations that happened to you, often with vision on only one player, and seeing what they do based on what they see.

However, a lot of time can be cut out of the equation if you've got a willing friend who is good enough to simply watch your replay and tell you what you should have done.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 03 2008 10:19 GMT
#8
On October 03 2008 19:13 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
Decision making can definitely be helped by someone knowledgeable. Speed and mechanics come from practice and there's very little you can do about that. Even if you use shortcut techniques like some people suggest on TL, like the playing-at-300APM-vs-computers technique, it still takes lots of practice. So just play a ton. Decision making will generally be a matter of watching replays with situations that happened to you, often with vision on only one player, and seeing what they do based on what they see.

However, a lot of time can be cut out of the equation if you've got a willing friend who is good enough to simply watch your replay and tell you what you should have done.



For sure, but it seems like since I am at a low level, I lose in the same basic ways. I would go into it now, but I want to save it for the next entry ^^
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
October 03 2008 10:23 GMT
#9
same :<
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
October 03 2008 10:24 GMT
#10
You should play some 2v2 games if you suck hard. It really helps with your early game mechanics and will force you to pay attention to scouting and the minimap.

Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 03 2008 10:26 GMT
#11
On October 03 2008 19:24 village_idiot wrote:
You should play some 2v2 games if you suck hard. It really helps with your early game mechanics and will force you to pay attention to scouting and the minimap.



Not a bad idea, except my partner would be pissed off that I am dragging them down.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 03 2008 11:14 GMT
#12
Goodluck my friend. I too was a D- player, but if you keep at it you will improve. I got to C+ as my highest, and when I started I was like you: a 10-50 D- type player.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 03 2008 11:35 GMT
#13
Thanks everyone for your support, I should have the next entry up by tomorrow
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
October 03 2008 12:04 GMT
#14
There are many commentated FPvods by players on TL. Myself included.
http://www.youtube.com/user/coky18

I'm a C terran, and I target my advice and junk towards D, D+ and C- players, wanting to get higher ranks. Hopefully there atleast of some use.

I also run a clan of people who chill on vent, watch replays, and ladder a lot. So if you ever need help or have any questions, don't be shy. I'm Nintu on iccup, or you can PM me here or on my youtube account. Goodluck! =D
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Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 03 2008 13:25 GMT
#15
On October 03 2008 21:04 Nintu wrote:
There are many commentated FPvods by players on TL. Myself included.
http://www.youtube.com/user/coky18

I'm a C terran, and I target my advice and junk towards D, D+ and C- players, wanting to get higher ranks. Hopefully there atleast of some use.

I also run a clan of people who chill on vent, watch replays, and ladder a lot. So if you ever need help or have any questions, don't be shy. I'm Nintu on iccup, or you can PM me here or on my youtube account. Goodluck! =D


hey man thanks a lot, awesome youtube vids!
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
October 03 2008 13:30 GMT
#16
Nice, I'll look forward to reading your blog as you progress. I'm a D level zerg myself and I only play for fun, but I hope you get to the level you want.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
October 03 2008 13:45 GMT
#17
i remember the first time i played pgt(ladder that came before iccup) i went like 2-16 T.T
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
October 03 2008 15:27 GMT
#18
On October 03 2008 19:24 village_idiot wrote:
You should play some 2v2 games if you suck hard. It really helps with your early game mechanics and will force you to pay attention to scouting and the minimap.



Before I started playing 1v1 exclusively (well, almost; I still play 2v2 sometimes) I found that playing 2v2 only confused me as the gameplay and strategies are completely different. But it might have had something to do with the fact that I could not play my main race (T) in 2v2 so I would go random.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 03 2008 16:03 GMT
#19
#1 thing is improve macro.
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
October 03 2008 16:46 GMT
#20
Im going to high five that 2v2 idea - hop on a server like east, and play some 2s or 3s - they really help to get a basic feel for macro and decision making.

2s on iccup would be harsh for you right now, even at D/D+ level
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 03 2008 17:30 GMT
#21
just study replays

pick a replay with a solid build and study it inside and out.

practice that build over and over against, against a computer if you want, so you dont miss depots, you dont miss factories

honestly, I spent 3 or 4 days just going over one build over and over again, making sure I could do it without a hitch pretty much every time, that I could adapt it fairly well, and it was probably the single greatest jump in my starcraft abilities.

I would reccomend replays involving koreans though
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 03 2008 17:46 GMT
#22
Yeah, I'm D- at a 0-11 record. But I'm getting better too, just have to weather the storm.
Jaedong
Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
October 03 2008 21:27 GMT
#23
On October 04 2008 01:03 Xeris wrote:
#1 thing is improve macro.

This. Protoss with decent macro can get to D+ fairly easily with just 1a2a3a. Macro is the basics of the game, focus on it first.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
October 03 2008 22:21 GMT
#24
Just pick a few ladder appropriate builds and stick to them and learn how to micro the units and macro in that game setting and then move on to more standard macro builds.

for ZvP when they fast expo just go 3 hat hydralisk push.

You'll learn to feel when templars and leg speed are comming. How scouting effectives the effectiveness of the strategy. How to micro hydralisks and how to build on hotkeys while attacking 5sh6sh7sh.

ZvT 12hat/11pool/10gas speed first 10 lings try and rush. If that doesn't do damage and you can't win with 2 hat speedlings make your lair and put a den down halfway threw for lurker/ling. Learning to micro this in small battles against MnM will increase your understanding of the
ZvT/TvZ struggle and once again burrow microling lurkers and zerglings together while spamming 5sz6sz7sh. This build will teach you went terran will get Seige tanks when their +1 attack upgrade is complete, and when the earliest vessels can come out.

ZvZ mass lings every game. Good zergling control is what makes a zerg player good, before mutas you need effective zergling control in all matchups. So learn how to do that!

Good luck, I will also continue checking your blog for updates. You can do it padawon!

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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 04 2008 01:15 GMT
#25
On October 04 2008 06:27 Underwhelmed wrote:
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On October 04 2008 01:03 Xeris wrote:
#1 thing is improve macro.

This. Protoss with decent macro can get to D+ fairly easily with just 1a2a3a. Macro is the basics of the game, focus on it first.


You can get alot farther than that if you have perfect macro and poor everything else
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