Okay if you don't want this to be spoiled, do not read any further. We've seen brilliancies in TvZ before, and usually Z comes out with the artful flanks, swarms and such, but man. This whole game was brilliant, was beautiful, it was art. Who would've thought? BW is art? Okay, don't go on if you don't want spoilers!
Warning you.
Oh yeah, apologies to the calc blog the other day. =D
Plasma, wow, Plasma looked so fantastic and amazing when none of the players have played it yet. It was just a map, with no statistics and no "cheese" strategies made. But once players have played it often, and often enough, we exploit the maps. We exploit the positional advantage we could gain, we exploit the terrains, and more importantly; we exploit build orders. What a weird twist of events, Mind, knowing him - boring Terran, yadda yadda, decides to not go into ground army, instead, he uses his star sense and maphack in his brain and goes, "fuck yeah, Luxury will go into some mutalisk opening like a boring Zerg" and opens with dual starports. Yeah, I quickly went, "knew it, boring Terran is going fast vessels, but a diff. build of fast vessels." But nooooo, he goes wraiths, and harasses the hell out of Luxury. Little vulture annoyed him too, I bet. As the scourges came and Luxury continues with his heavy mutalisk army, Mind added in an armory and what the fuck comes into my mind. Valkyries, boring Terran makes valkyries with wraiths. Wow. Besides me hating him for killing Bisu, he actually made this game not boring.
Of course, seeing as Z's air can't > Terran's air, Luxury transitions to lurkers and hydralisks with overlord drop. Good idea, blah blah. Mind is already one-step ahead. Luxury must've been mindfucked when he drops in Mind's main, kills workers, kills turrets, shit like that. I wouldn't say he did that bad of damage. But anyway, Mind already macro'd a fuckload of units in the mix of marines, medics, tanks and vessels. Seriously, the mutalisks was a mistake, Luxury made them thinking he could economically hurt T but was strictly repelled. Did absolutely no damage, in fact, he was slowed. His economy wasn't bad, it's just that he had no outstanding army to best Mind's. Mind walks over Luxury. Luxury cries. Luxury joins KTF. Yay.
I enjoyed it, I don't know about YOU. Yeah, a big F U to Luxury for ruining my liquidbet, DAMNIT!
Mind isnt original Flash, Forgg and Hwasin went dual starport vs Zerg on this map, its just that good. The only Zerg that knows how to play this map is Thezerg who has 2 wins ZvT on this map, one vs Hwasin and one vs Shine.
After that failed attack with mutalisk, luxury was still in the game. He lost because after that he stopped making drones. I will pown mind with 6 drone each bases! GOGO
There was nothing amazing about Minds build. You can see it many times in loads of older games. It's a pretty standard cheese TvZ. And why would you think fast 2 port meant fast vessels? that makes no sense
On September 25 2008 05:20 Piy wrote: There was nothing amazing about Minds build. You can see it many times in loads of older games. It's a pretty standard cheese TvZ. And why would you think fast 2 port meant fast vessels? that makes no sense
Ummm that makes quite a lot of sense actually since fast ports are kind of required for fast vessels and it's pretty cheap too meaning you can M&M up as you do it for a kind of boxereqsue 1 base SK Terran build.
On September 25 2008 05:20 Piy wrote: There was nothing amazing about Minds build. You can see it many times in loads of older games. It's a pretty standard cheese TvZ. And why would you think fast 2 port meant fast vessels? that makes no sense
it doesnt have to make sense, as long as it works. who plays like an idiot and wins and doesnt make sense? ah yes, backho.
Um weird game indeed, Zerg had to open fast spire because wraiths on this map is so hard to defend with 12 hatch (especially because terran usually proxies his factory and uses vultures hardcore if zerg doesn't go fast mutas). And after that Terran only needs to scout entrances for lurkers and little guarding air for drops and its easy win. Though I still say that ZvP is harder to win with zerg.
Man I really thought Sea saw that proxy, didn't realize he was just SUPER FUCKING CLOSE. I really thought to myself "OH GG SEA SCOUTED THAT SHIT." Then I saw no engineering bay going up or anything and the tank moving out towards stork's base and said "WTF." :\