EPTStrength Gauntlets
Fury
S&Y
BoT
Butterfly
Heart of Tarrasque
And I get the ulti at level 10.
Am I doing it right? T_T
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
Strength Gauntlets Fury S&Y BoT Butterfly Heart of Tarrasque And I get the ulti at level 10. Am I doing it right? T_T | ||
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
I'm far from a DOTA expert so I'm afraid I can't help you.. | ||
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aev
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imo, you should go for Bottle at the beginning, and farm at least 2 Wraith Bands/Bracers, then go for Deso. SnY is good if you got killed early on or if you can't farm properly. Other than that your build seems fine. | ||
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
2wraiths/bracers deso fury BoT butterfly heart | ||
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eazo
United States530 Posts
On September 10 2008 20:43 Spenguin wrote: I realize that this might be the wrong thing to ask BUT! I really want to know how to play the juggernaut in dota well T_T Just what items to get really and when to get the ulti. In a normal game I go for (and in this order): Strength Gauntlets Fury S&Y BoT Butterfly Heart of Tarrasque And I get the ulti at level 10. Am I doing it right? T_T First things first. Those are awesome items, however its fat chance that your going to get all of them in one game unless your dominating. however, heres a good stats build. Blade Fury Stats Blade Fury Stats Blade Fury Omnislash Blade Fury Stats Stats Stats Omnislash Blade Dance or Healing Ward Blade Dance or Healing Ward Blade Dance or Healing Ward Blade Dance or Healing Ward Omnislash Healing Ward or Blade Dance Healing Ward or Blade Dance Healing Ward or Blade Dance Healing Ward or Blade Dance Stats Stats Stats Stats Stats Why stats? b/c yunero relies HEAVILY on blade fury early on, with a few extra points, he becomes much more effective early on. With stats, it also allows the jugg to use both blade fury and omnislash one right after the other at lvl 6. Also, you should pick healing ward when your team is big on pushing, this will help tremendously, however, if they enjoy farming and ganking more than pushing, go for the blade dance earlier. Also, items. You need something to build off of. Going straight for fury/S&Y right out of the gates is dangerous unless you have a good lane and are farming well. I would suggest getting 3 bracers (juggs life is low), a bottle (for ganking w/. his low mana pool), and BoT. After that you can go for the exspensive items such as butterfly, radiance (better than battlefury) or S&Y. I'm going to look for the guide i got all of this info on. I remember reading it a while back, ill look for it and edit it in. edit: Found it rather quickly! http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=179818 This is where i got my build for using the jugg and the guid itself is very exstensive. Although its a little on the old side, he hasn't changed that much making him still very useful. Also, he goes into great detail about how to play him. Check it out. | ||
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
Please if you comment about Omnislash read the mechanics of it first, 'cause my eyes are bleeding from your comment. Duh. Thing is, Jugger is doing fixed amount of damage while omnislashing (~200 I believe, bit more), BUT if you got nice attack speed, he tries to do normal attacks inbetween - and if you got atk. speed, he succeeds, tremendously upping his ulti's damage. Battle Fury is good for owning noobs and a-move farming, otherwise it's terrible. Learn to last hit instead, that'll help you a lot more than buying battle fury 24/7. The build suggested above is good. You don't benefit shit from crits early on while you lack both the attack speed / damage / survivability to hit on targets. You rely on blade fury, and blade fury needs hp and mana -> stats. If you had an OK amount of farming, you should be getting wards / blade dance around lvl 12, as it'll be needed in the midgame when fury slowly starts to lose effectiveness. Items: SnY sucks cock for Jugger, period. Spend that 5k elsewhere. Deso is ok, but as I said, you need attack speed before you can use it properly. Butterfly would be the best, but unless your opponents are clueless newbies, you'll have a hard time rushing for it. MKB also blows cock for jugger. What then? Well, Wraith Bands. Thousands of them! Or at least two. If you can get it, BoT instantly, if you can't, just go STR treads as you need the hp, and the hp you get from there fixes that. I would try Butterfly -> Heart OR AC (dependant on opposing team's LU) from here on. Bottom line: The extra normal hits for omnislash occur more often if you don't jump around inbetween targets (i.e.: enemy heroes are clumped, or you catch 1-2 out of position in the jungle with nothing nearby) Bottom line #2: this blog doesn't belong to this site =[ Bottom line #3: get into TL dota to see why Testie isn't playing BW anymore! | ||
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Lyrok
Germany85 Posts
In general, boots first suck, but on Jugger its just gold, if you ambush them it should net you first blood @ lvl 1 on a lane with a decent stun / slow hero, so you can get some stat items (circlets / branches). As Naib already said, SnY / BF / Radi aren't the best choice, but if you play pubs or know your team is superior anyway, they can get you some sweet kill streaks. In balanced games with experienced players you will need all the HP & attack speed you can get though, so bfly / heart and similar items are your friends. | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
sny + bot radiance + skadi BoT always very necessary because you need to be mobile + your spinning thing, whatever it's called, benefits a LOT from it because nobody will outrun you. | ||
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
On September 11 2008 00:40 Naib wrote: Eh, Deso doesn't help Omnislash damage for shit unless you got a shitton of atk. speed already. And without items, you don't. Please if you comment about Omnislash read the mechanics of it first, 'cause my eyes are bleeding from your comment. Duh. Thing is, Jugger is doing fixed amount of damage while omnislashing (~200 I believe, bit more), BUT if you got nice attack speed, he tries to do normal attacks inbetween - and if you got atk. speed, he succeeds, tremendously upping his ulti's damage. Battle Fury is good for owning noobs and a-move farming, otherwise it's terrible. Learn to last hit instead, that'll help you a lot more than buying battle fury 24/7. The build suggested above is good. You don't benefit shit from crits early on while you lack both the attack speed / damage / survivability to hit on targets. You rely on blade fury, and blade fury needs hp and mana -> stats. If you had an OK amount of farming, you should be getting wards / blade dance around lvl 12, as it'll be needed in the midgame when fury slowly starts to lose effectiveness. Items: SnY sucks cock for Jugger, period. Spend that 5k elsewhere. Deso is ok, but as I said, you need attack speed before you can use it properly. Butterfly would be the best, but unless your opponents are clueless newbies, you'll have a hard time rushing for it. MKB also blows cock for jugger. What then? Well, Wraith Bands. Thousands of them! Or at least two. If you can get it, BoT instantly, if you can't, just go STR treads as you need the hp, and the hp you get from there fixes that. I would try Butterfly -> Heart OR AC (dependant on opposing team's LU) from here on. Bottom line: The extra normal hits for omnislash occur more often if you don't jump around inbetween targets (i.e.: enemy heroes are clumped, or you catch 1-2 out of position in the jungle with nothing nearby) Bottom line #2: this blog doesn't belong to this site =[ Bottom line #3: get into TL dota to see why Testie isn't playing BW anymore! So i didn't know everything about omnislash's mechanics. That's still only one third of my post and my other two points still stand, so try not to be so condescending when you post. Edit: I also never implied that you should rush Deso, only that it was a better orb for jugger. | ||
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paper
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rushing radiance is always iffy, and rushing skadi is always retarded and s&y is definitely viable on jugg | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
stimpacks: to increase your attack rate metabolic boost: get away from your enemies adrenal glands: even more attack rate Armor +1: to resist hits Psi Storm: you become imba gg? | ||
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