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Die Carriers! Mwhahaha!

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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-22 06:25:12
August 22 2008 06:04 GMT
#1
I took a long hiatus from Iccup because I had become so frustrated getting destroyed by Protoss as a Terran. I'm not that great, I've hit D+ as Protoss while playing Zerg against Protoss (I hate PvP). But after playing another two months of games against my friend, my apm rose another 10ish to 115-125, so i decided to give it another go.

I went 2-3 winning two games on Andromeda. They were the first games I've won on Iccup in TvP where I wasn't cheesing. (I also won a TvZ in which I fast expoed, also a first for me on Iccup... my early game micro always failed me before).

I'm surviving the early game against Protoss a lot better than I was before. Partly because they're letting me and expanding, but also partly because my early game management is better. I'm still entering midgame a lot further behind that I would prefer, but that's better than not even getting there. I'm not a huge fan of being behind, because it makes harassing pretty difficult. :/

The one game I'm really proud of that I won tonight is where the Toss took his mineral only at 13 supply or so. I panicked since I was going 2 factory and I scouted 3 gateways, and I built a ton of marines and sent as many tanks and vultures as possible. It failed miserably since he scouted it a mile away and he had way too many dragoons by the time I got there anyways (I should have just backed off when his probe saw it). Instead of going for the kill, he was content to expand. I tried to make up for this (since he didn't seem to be in a hurry to cross the map) by expanding immediately.

Things continued on pretty uneventfully (except a shuttle with a reaver running into a turret line above my gas natural) until I scanned carriers at around 150 supply. I swore, because I wasn't at all prepared for them and I saw three of them. He ended up swarming in with everything, and despite not having charon booster initially due to thinking I had it but not(I wanted to scream), I pushed him back. And then very slowly managed to beat him back despite him having a ground army and carriers, and a 30-40 supply lead most of the game.

I think I did a pretty good job after he attacked my expo. I managed to minimize damage from his templar and his ground army pretty well (I did eat one storm that looked like it hurt a lot, but watching the replay I moved my goliathes out of it pretty quickly), which I think contributed to him going pure carrier (well, almost pure). But eventually I bled him dry and killed them all with goliath/wraith.

I think his big mistake was not targeting two of my expos at all, but after a point he couldn't really because I eventually clawed my way to a 200 supply goliath army vs his 200 supply carrier and if he did, I'd just run over his expo or main.

About 2/3rds the way through he asked me my real rank. I guess I handled it pretty well, but goliath micro isn't that hard once you know how to do it and you have the economy to support it. And Andromeda is a terrible map for carriers (especially when my vital expos were cross positioned from his main). I'd be going arbiter every time as Protoss.

Anyways, die carriers! I remember when they used to be an auto loss for me regardless of how big of a lead I had. Revenge is so sweet. :0

http://tdzk.agadak.net/zer0das/0384 z0rzergT FrozenCP.rep

Also, if you don't want to watch the whole thing, he loses about half a dozen carriers in about 2 minutes and 30 seconds starting at 23:00 or so. I felt like this prolonged battle gave me the advantage.

****
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
August 22 2008 06:19 GMT
#2
nice, as a T also, I'm glad you killed the mutha fuckin carriers!
Sup
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
August 22 2008 06:37 GMT
#3
Don't hate on carriers

Coming back from a major disadvantage feels so good. I sometimes have a smile on my face after a victory like that XD
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 22 2008 07:59 GMT
#4
huk... did he have any templars?
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
August 22 2008 09:00 GMT
#5
On August 22 2008 16:59 evanthebouncy! wrote:
huk... did he have any templars?


Didn't look like it. There were like 32838423 goliaths too lol.
Sup
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 22 2008 09:25 GMT
#6
On August 22 2008 16:59 evanthebouncy! wrote:
huk... did he have any templars?


He had two or three at various points (never more than one or two at once, at least not after his 200 supply attack), but I did a fairly good job of backing all my stuff up and sieging so they'd die before they could storm (or moving out of the storm). Why he didn't get more of them when I started going pure goliath is beyond me (although he did go broke at one point because he overinvested in carriers ~_~).

It might have been overconfidence too. He did have a swarm of carriers flying around at one point and it did seem like he was gaining some serious traction and their numbers were becoming overwhelming. That is, before he sort of got them all trapped in a rough spot, then when he had the chance to flee he didn't, which resulted in all but 3 of them dying..
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
August 22 2008 11:09 GMT
#7
Don't hate the Carriers. Carriers are very cool conceptual units, with very good graphic for SC standards and wicked voice, interesting and powerful mechanics, for a fair price. Similar to the Battlecruisers, maybe even more effective.
So, don't hate the Carrier.

Instead, hate that fucking little cunt of a Protoss player who, given his insecurities and lack of any real type of talent in real life chooses the easiest race (at lower levels it IS THE EASIEST) and does the most gay and cheap tactic available, CARRIERS, displaying his fear to face the opponent in a standard game because he can't handle defeat or the fact that he may be inferior. This is the jerk who is not willing nor capable of learning and improving too much. Therefor he goes proxi tech DTs every game because of his own insecurities, followed by Carriers, cuz ITS SO FUCKING EASY.

Huh. Now that I've vented a little, good job my Terran friend. phuck the carriers^^
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