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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Why it's incomprehensible that it makes sense for me to /f r Sea[Shield]. I don't play with him b/c it's a rather waste of time for both of us, plus the time zones dont match up, and I'd rather spend what playing time I have playing pple who I'd actually have a fighting chance against.
There's plenty of pple wanting to play Sea, and I'm not particularly keen so why not just let the more interested guys go at it. So that "I'd have a story" from playing a top tier progamer? Okay, I guess most people would be enthralled at the opportunity, and I might have been before the occasion actually came up. But once it was in front of me, I simply felt no interest in doing so and wasn't enamored by the possibility of saying "hey guys i got raped by sea the other day on blue storm." I think it's prefectly fine and I understand why pple are enchanted by it, but is it that hard to accept that it doesnt particularly interest me? It is beyond me how this can be misconstrued into "Haji is above playing vs a progamer," just because we dont think alike? Did I personally diss you for playing Sea or whatever? I sincerely doubt it.
I don't talk to sea on bnet b/c anything said there would be incredibly superficial. What am I going to talk to him about? How his practice is going - okay. How his lunch was - good. Which girl in Girls Generation is hot - no idea but I'm sure he has some preference. Whatever channel he's in is filled with 20-30 pple spamming away stuff in broken english you'd hardly call it a conversation anyways. If I need to talk to him I'll do so via msn or email. I'd get a much more meaningful answer there anyways. You make it seem like I should be obligated to make small talk with him with every damn opportunity I get.
I removed him when adding a friend I'd actually talk with and play with on west. If I dont feel inclined to talk to or play Sea on west, why should I have him on my friends list? Not having the most big shot celebrity friends I have on my friends list automatically makes me a bastard that's too important for them? What the hell I dont even have Nony, Inc or Idra on my friends list and those are 'gosu' acquaintances I should have on my f list according to these guidelines.
Let's see who's on my f list...
Neo
SJM
Hotbid
Infinity21
Yubee
Mani
Cadical
Intrigue
A friend from college
taek
metal
kennigit
rage
micronesia
LR
warmaster
tifa
midian
keen
coldlava
shallow
chill
jared
bill
Upon revision, yes I'd rather have every single one of these guys on my f list than Sea. I actually play against them and enjoy it, sure I'll get raped by most of them regardless but most of the time I can learn something from it. And there's no question that I talk to these guys more frequently and in a much more meaningful fashion than I would or more importantly, could with Sea.
And somehow my decision translates into: "Haji is too important to not have a progamer on his f list." I am a bm cynic that is too important for progamers apparently. What the fuck man. And I KNOW you're going to come and say "wtf why are you makign such a huge deal out of it," but seriously man look at that comment. The question is why you felt the need to make such a massive deal about me removing sea from my friends list in the first place and felt the urge to personally insult my character and rationale for doing so, especially after I explained my reasoning at length to immediately after your first comments remarking about my supposed condescension or whatever you chose to interpret it as.
Seriously, what the hell man. I don't get it. Is it not possible to fathom that the world does not look the same to everyone? Are you going to just shrug it off as me making a huge deal out of nothing?
Since when are personal attacks, assumptions and insinuations "not a big deal," I'd like to know. Are you going to say 'you were joking around'? Honestly it sure didn't seem like it from the way you repeatedly insisted that I was a no-manner, self absorbed SOB over and over each time I tried to explain my reasoning to you. If you turn even this confrontation into "just a joke," after I've made it clear that I've taken serious offense to it, I'm not sure what to say - particularly considering you're familiar with what went down when I was the one going "what's the big deal" after seriously insulting someone both you and I know without my admittance.
I'm "too involved with the scene" for me to take my friends over a progamer on my friends list? WHy the hell should that matter with regards to who I want to spend my time with on bnet. FFS I dont even work for the site or any other broodwar site anymore and as you have declared on many occasions, am 'the shittiest poster on TL' by the estimation of many of us. I'm not going to argue about this dubious distinction bestowed upon me, but wouldn't me being such a shitty member of the community almost absolve me from such "responsibilites" as you make it seem to be? And even if I were still an admin here, what does that have to do with what I do with my time on west, which I certainly do not correlate with my 'work' I did for the site or anywhere else. Now I'm completely going off on a tangent.
What do you think. Am I utterly insane for removing sea from my friends list? Does my reasoning have any semblance of logic to it? Is it so incomprehensible that you'd feel inclined to personally insult me over it?
And btw no I'm not particularly intersted in your response or arguments in this thread, and hope you dont post here. There is a reason why I havent named any names here. The style of writing and 'addressing' the person was simply the most effective means I had in getting the argument across.
 
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else.
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ah should of known you were gonna make a blog post about this haji. Anyhow you reasoning makes complete sense. I mean why would you have people on your f list if you aren't going to talk/play with them? I mean damn I even play with you and I"m not on the f list yet. I didn't see that person attack your character too much imo but then again I wasn't playing too much attention past the first couple replies.
On a side note I still don't see how I won that last game v you but it was definitely a gg.
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Haha, I suppose you would probably be in the minority of not being interested in playing and superficially 'hanging out' with a progamer. After reading your reasoning I totally understand, though. Shit, even if you didn't have explainable reasoning for it, it shouldn't be of any bother to anyone else to why you're not interested in it, and you most definitely shouldn't be insulted for it.
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I wouldn't have removed sea. But hell, I would've also played him gotten killed a couple times then told everyone i played sea shield
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On August 03 2008 13:48 crabapple wrote:
then dont add him. O.o
I dont have a problem with not adding sea. I do however have a problem with him insulting me over removing him, repeatedly, even after explaining to him profusely and sincerely as to why I made such a move.
No, I dont take insinuations on my character well.
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On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else.
On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else.
On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On August 03 2008 13:54 Yank31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else. Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else. Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else.
I consider being called a bm, cynical, haughty, and 'too-imporant' to be of a completely different matter than a dismissal of my opinion. There is a difference between having my actions questioned and having my own character questioned.
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And just to add, I haven't really been around here long, but from what I've seen you're far from the shittiest poster on TL. Your dedication to the site alone makes you better than 99% of those on here, including myself.
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On August 03 2008 13:57 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 13:54 Yank31 wrote:On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else. On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else. On August 03 2008 13:41 Roffles wrote:
Why the fuck do you give a damn about what they think? As long as you feel you're doing the right thing, fuck everyone else. I consider being called a bm, cynical, haughty, and 'too-imporant' to be of a completely different matter than a dismissal of my opinion. There is a difference between having my actions questioned and having my own character questioned.
I thought that person was joking when he said it but I could of taken it completely wrong.
edit: And how are you the shittiest poster on tl?
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
it should be clear by now that I can't take a joke then.
edit: And how are you the shittiest poster on tl?
By popular vote.
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Hey haji is there a back story to this I can read somewhere? I must've missed the thread (if there was one) with people flaming.
Or was it just Sea?
*Just updated and read the edit. Anyway, not naming any names and not stating this was a private/personal quarrel made it kind of confusing 
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On August 03 2008 14:02 thedeadhaji wrote:it should be clear by now that I can't take a joke then. By popular vote.
I mean he could of been completely serious because I don't know how your relationship is with this person, but when I say things like that I do it in a jokily way and not mean it at all. But then again that's just me and I tend to take things less serious and as a joke when it's online unless they state it's serious or in an argument.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I take things at face value, especially when teh message does not change after my repeated disapproval of it.
My relationship with him is perfectly fine and and harmonious, but htat doesnt mean they cant offend me over oen thing or another.
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On August 03 2008 14:08 thedeadhaji wrote:
I take things at face value, especially when teh message does not change after my repeated disapproval of it.
My relationship with him is perfectly fine and and harmonious, but htat doesnt mean they cant offend me over oen thing or another.
Yeah I just didn't know if you guys joked around a lot of not like I do with my friends.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
considering he tends to 'joke' often and troll certain pple I wouldnt put it beyond him.
But if he can tell that I am not pleased and continues to go on his path while I am obviously taking offense, is that not saying somethign else entirely despite his 'intenstions'?
on a side note i hate the internet and text based communcation.
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On August 03 2008 14:11 thedeadhaji wrote:
considering he tends to 'joke' often and troll certain pple I wouldnt put it beyond him.
But if he can tell that I am not pleased and continues to go on his path while I am obviously taking offense, is that not saying somethign else entirely despite his 'intenstions'?
on a side note i hate the internet and text based communcation.
So do I, but yeah if he kept on with his stance after you repeatedly stated you were displeased then I'd say he is in the wrong, but I didn't personally see him keep responding. I just saw you writing long posts with no one really replying back to them myself.
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On August 03 2008 14:02 thedeadhaji wrote:it should be clear by now that I can't take a joke then. By popular vote.
you're just so damn cute
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Calgary25998 Posts
haji
although i do half believe in what i was saying, i was spinning it mostly to break your balls.
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/f r'ing sea is totally acceptable, /f ring me is ABSOLUTELY NOT
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i dont even have you on flist, decaf
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Language/background/(perhaps) age difference kicking in. Who knows. Didn't think this was gonna be a walk in the park now did you?
Not a big deal. But apparently being misunderstood doesn't seem so insufferable till it's by someone so famous, eh?
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You know what I don't understand? How Haji gets in these situations...
I would just tell him that you feel like you are wasting his time and you don't want to constantly spam him when you enter games.
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i thought every one knew all of haji posts were from flame wars
or am i just completely wrong in this
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The guy's barely 18. I'm sure you can understand an in inappropriately emotional response.
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On August 03 2008 15:38 BottleAbuser wrote:
The guy's barely 18. I'm sure you can understand an in inappropriately emotional response.
Haji's only 18?
Thought he was in Grad School
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CA10830 Posts
On August 03 2008 15:38 BottleAbuser wrote:
The guy's barely 18. I'm sure you can understand an in inappropriately emotional response.
i think haji is 23 or so.
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i think what you did is perfectly normal, removing a real friend spot for a trophy friend would be shallow.
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you're not utterly insane for /f r ing sea but you are utterly insane for justifying it in a big ass blog post
cmon man
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On August 03 2008 14:44 Chill wrote:
haji
although i do half believe in what i was saying, i was spinning it mostly to break your balls.
yankin ur cock
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I dont see what the big deal is. Anyone who disses you for this is just a dick. Forget about it man.
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On August 03 2008 16:16 kdog3683 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 15:38 BottleAbuser wrote:
The guy's barely 18. I'm sure you can understand an in inappropriately emotional response. Haji's only 18? Thought he was in Grad School
I can only assume he's talking about Sea. Did he happen to say anything about it?
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i never tried to get a game with sea or talk to him either, it's really just a waste of time for him and i have enough respect not to waste his time
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
omfg this is the nerdiest blog ever
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Wow haji you're so f******* bm, you removed sea from your f list? This clearly shows what kind of a person you REALLY are.
lol j/k
I find it perfectly acceptable to /f r sea. Had I been in your place, I would've done exactly the same, or I probably wouldn't have /f added him in the first place. Actually, I'm a little impressed with your /f ring sea.
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United States22883 Posts
Ok, your friend is being the douche and not Sea, right? Cause it kinda sounds like Sea got pissed at you. D:
Personally I wouldn't have removed him, but I wouldn't waste his time anyways. At least not regularly. Somehow I have a few all-world CS players on my AIM list and I don't bother them about CS (besides asking if they liked 1.6 over CSS. Almost all say yes) but once in a blue moon I'll bug them about WoW/WC3/SC/SC2 because I know they're playing the other games to get a break from CS.
If I had Sea on my friends list I wouldn't bother him for SC (it'd be even more pathetic than vs you D but I might ask him some hobby or personal questions he normally doesn't get or try to help him with english.
But no, I don't think the friends list is some sacred thing that is the keeper of all important people. There's plenty of people I leave off because the messages get annoying, but I have their names all memorized and I still chat with them.
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lol why is /f removing someone a big deal?
and why did i know from the start you were talking about chill?
god i hate quiet sundays.
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also, haji i <3 you, you're a much better poster now than when you were an uptight admin.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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Calgary25998 Posts
On August 03 2008 21:58 Orome wrote:
and why did i know from the start you were talking about chill?
Ouch. Time to shape up I guess =\
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Basically what haji is saying is that i am better than Sea[shield]. You heard it here folks.
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United States22883 Posts
haji just pmed me "FBH > Sea[Shield]!" OMG SAVIOR FANS LETS KILL HIM
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