i am studying francais for a month with the explore program at the university of montreal.
lemme tell you, it is hottttttttttttttttttttttttttttt its unfortunate because thats kept me from going out and exploring montreal and more importantly prevented me from trying to meet people in the program. also in montreal in general. my shyness is bad enough but with this heat wave, i dont feel like going out at all..
my studies are going well but the social life isnt.. oh man any montrealers in here that know good places to just go out and relax, any place good from getting away from the heat other than "home"
man, like i said in my clubbing thread, i'm a 5'8 asian guy, im not bad looking but dont speak any french.
my chances of meeting a hot french canadienne girl? i think we all know the answer. FUCK!
Pretty simple. if you want the "EZ lol"0 version of where the english nightlife is, go to crescent street. There's obviously individual spots off that street, but there's like.. 3 bars and 4 large clubs there. if you want to go meet some french women, there's a few clubs (foufs/boum/etc), and the main.
On July 09 2008 13:42 jjun212 wrote: kkkkk sooo here i am in montreal
i am studying francais for a month with the explore program at the university of montreal.
lemme tell you, it is hottttttttttttttttttttttttttttt its unfortunate because thats kept me from going out and exploring montreal and more importantly prevented me from trying to meet people in the program. also in montreal in general. my shyness is bad enough but with this heat wave, i dont feel like going out at all..
my studies are going well but the social life isnt.. oh man any montrealers in here that know good places to just go out and relax, any place good from getting away from the heat other than "home"
man, like i said in my clubbing thread, i'm a 5'8 asian guy, im not bad looking but dont speak any french.
my chances of meeting a hot french canadienne girl? i think we all know the answer. FUCK!
Wtf? This summer has been really really cool. [im canadian]
First, avoid to use expression like "french canadian girl" if you want to bang one...
Nightlife: Crescent street/ McGill Campus = full of english speaking chicks, but if you're kind of shy you might not feel confortable since you need to have a lot of money/showing it to enjoy nightlife down there...
For a french immersion in a cool atmosphere, try St-Denis street between St-Catherine St and Ontario St. You'll find plenty of cool pubs/terraces to enjoy hot summer with a glasses of sangria.
Bike: Fallow the bicycle route along the quay of the old port and St-Helen Island, it worth the ride!
Shows/Scene/Festivals/Restaurants: Use the "Voir" magazine (also at www.voir.ca)
My tip would be: Try to be part of the many festivals (Jazz/Just for laught/Night of Africa/Fantasia/Francofolies) going on, nice places to meet people, especially asian people at Fantasia (Concordia subway station (http://www.fantasiafest.com/2008/)) You must get away from the UDM's campus if you want to enjoy the life of the city!
Can also PM me if you need some more advices/ one-liner to talk to a woman in french ; )
By the way, the Best/July Final is coming... how about doing a special night somewhere in Montreal (I would say at my place, but daum stream turned laggy since a couple of month) and invite every TLers around ?
Would be a nice opportunity to meet Montrealers/Quebecers AND to cheer for July/celebrate his golden mouse together with a drink...
On July 09 2008 13:42 jjun212 wrote: kkkkk sooo here i am in montreal
i am studying francais for a month with the explore program at the university of montreal.
lemme tell you, it is hottttttttttttttttttttttttttttt its unfortunate because thats kept me from going out and exploring montreal and more importantly prevented me from trying to meet people in the program. also in montreal in general. my shyness is bad enough but with this heat wave, i dont feel like going out at all..
my studies are going well but the social life isnt.. oh man any montrealers in here that know good places to just go out and relax, any place good from getting away from the heat other than "home"
man, like i said in my clubbing thread, i'm a 5'8 asian guy, im not bad looking but dont speak any french.
my chances of meeting a hot french canadienne girl? i think we all know the answer. FUCK!
Wtf? This summer has been really really cool. [im canadian]
yesterday, it was 40 degrees in Montreal. Monday it as like 35-36.
If you get a chance, go to the Just pour rire festival in Mtl. Expect that 90% of the show are in french maybe more.
Good place to relax and fight the eat is going to the "Vieux-Port", near of the river, a bit more cool. Awsome view. If you like rollerblade and bike, its also a good place.
Yeah im in montreal this summer too and you dont need French AT ALL. Like was said about, go tour st cat's and the strip bars that are just like a door with bopping music blasting out and a guy at the front door who calls out "dont be a shmo, have a go!"
For the love of god, PLEASE GO TO CLUB SUPER SEXY. It is the best strip club ever.
As for regular bars and clubs, there's never a reason to go anywhere but St. Catherine's. I went last Sept. to Montreal for the first time, and I can't wait to go back.
hahaha burned toast, I'm up for that and btw jjun212 don't worry, if you really need to do something just pm me and we'll gather up some people and go out.
Also, crescent street is fine, tokyo is ok, if you want something more french, i recommend foufs, cafe campus.
If you want something more styling there is 1234 ( techno/hiphop) , light ultra club is fun, lamouche, etc, I don't suggest going alone though, oh well. There is also 737, which is really nice club. Also, do you drink? that would be good to know.
Btw, do NOT and I sincerely mean this, do NOT stay in the UDM campus, you'll get bored and it's not that hot anyways, go on st-catherine and just go for some shopping or just sight seeing or girl seeing .
On July 09 2008 14:22 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I live in Montreal. Don't worry about French, you'll never have to speak it, all you need is English. Seriously, French is NOT required in the least.
Which is amazingly, totally and uberly sad. Or, shall I say this in french: Incroyablement, totalement et énormément triste.
I don't mean to tell english people that they do not belong in the province of Quebec, but it should not be normal that you guys can live in Montreal since decades et not even speak a godamn word of french. That is ridiculous. And unrespectful of other quebecers.
jjun212, I strongly suggest that you keep up with learning french. It is the least you can do for that province. It truly is a beautiful langage. Plus, french opens the door to the majority of hot girls in Quebec since that bilinguism is kind of rare outside Montreal and not everyone is in Montreal itself.
On July 09 2008 14:22 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I live in Montreal. Don't worry about French, you'll never have to speak it, all you need is English. Seriously, French is NOT required in the least.
Which is amazingly, totally and uberly sad. Or, shall I say this in french: Incroyablement, totalement et énormément triste.
I don't mean to tell english people that they do not belong in the province of Quebec, but it should not be normal that you guys can live in Montreal since decades et not even speak a godamn word of french. That is ridiculous. And unrespectful of other quebecers.
jjun212, I strongly suggest that you keep up with learning french. It is the least you can do for that province. It truly is a beautiful langage. Plus, french opens the door to the majority of hot girls in Quebec since that bilinguism is kind of rare outside Montreal and not everyone is in Montreal itself.
- ThE_AdvoCaTe
You shouldn't have to learn a useless minority language when the entire damn planet speaks English. You can live in entirely different nations, where no one has English as a first language, and still be fine. Because most people speak it as a second language. English is international, just live with it.
Now that is interesting. A minority langage? At word scale, yes. At north american scale, yes. But whenever someone decides to move to another country or another nation, that person has to accept the local culture. Would you go to South Korea while only speaking english? Maybe, but you'd miss a lot that this country has to give. You would keep running into locked doors, due to you're thought that you're english is enough. No, the entire planet does not speak english. Truth is that too many english speaking persons believe that others will learn english instead of them learning other langages, so that their lazy ass won't have to do much efforts. But learning the local langage is a demonstration of respect towards their culture. They welcome you in their state, after all.
Plus, jjun212 is with Explore on a trip to learn french. Why would you guys recommend him not to?
It is such unrespectful speech that enhances to separatist movement in Quebec. Although I disagree with that ideology, I have to agree with them when I hear such speech of ignorance.
Lol if learning the local language is a sign of respect u'd see so many disrespectful people I bet your life is spent bickering to them constantly. good luck with that...
OH HO HO ITS ALL 1995 REFERENDUM IN THIS BLOG! Americans, you don't know what your talking abooooot - outta dis blog. Space)Ment-rA, CTStalker, jjun212, Smorrie, everyone else - lets go get drunk? Actually yo, Smorrie when are you in town? we can figure something out for then
Umm prep year is different than FYOP. I have no idea about that cause i didn't do prep - i imagine you will do the CF express test within the first couple weeks. Actually during IAP i think you do it the week you get there. Its really easy though - run a 6.5 beep test, 19 pushups etc. Try get exempt though so you can be hardcore
I'm not doing a prep year though, that's the thing; noone seems to know what's happening. All of the Air trades (Air ops/eng/support etc.) are going to St. Jean for the first year or two and then finishing the last two-three years in Kingston. It's not a prep year, it's actually our first (and maybe second) years towards our degree.
On July 10 2008 03:04 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Actually, Quebec has one official langage, french. But one cannot forbid english people to speak english, can he?
oh! OH ok yeah your right they are doing that. I forgot they were reopening st jean like that. Ok that means you are doing IAP pretty soon then right? Your CF Express test will be within like...hmmm maybe the first week. First 3-4 days is mainly admin stuff and getting your kit. Once you have that then you'll start doing gym classes with my favorite people in the world - the st jean PSP staff "DEMONSTRATION POSITION.....CHANGE!"
hahaha you'll know what im talking about soon enough. Keep your head down and dont draw attention to yourself with your staff and you'll be good
Someone was telling me that I should pretend to have no previous knowledge of drill or military procedure (I've been in Cadets for a long time :p ) Is this recommended?
On July 09 2008 14:22 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I live in Montreal. Don't worry about French, you'll never have to speak it, all you need is English. Seriously, French is NOT required in the least.
Which is amazingly, totally and uberly sad. Or, shall I say this in french: Incroyablement, totalement et énormément triste.
I don't mean to tell english people that they do not belong in the province of Quebec, but it should not be normal that you guys can live in Montreal since decades et not even speak a godamn word of french. That is ridiculous. And unrespectful of other quebecers.
- ThE_AdvoCaTe
Yeah, but montreal has only itself to blame for that, I think. I lived in Kingston for six years and it's not a long road-trip to get to Montreal. I grew up in NE Ontario - I've spoken french since I was three years old (albeit with something of a Val D'Or/Rouyn accent ) and everywhere I go in Montreal I have to practically force people to speak French. I'm sure there's a slight accent in my french as English is definitely my first language, but it's like as soon as a sentence comes out, half the time people just reply in English. I usually have to press to carry on the conversation in French. Paris suffers from the same thing - it's always flooded with tourists so unless you're speaking Parisian dialect (or Montrealer in the former case), they just assume that you've gotten your one memorised phrase out and carry on in English. No... um, actually, I speak perfect French, thanks. Peut-être on utiliserait plus le Français si les Francophones n'était pas après sacrer leurs camps du language à chaque tour, hein? It is a shame, I agree.
OH GOD DO NOT MENTION THAT YOU WERE IN CADETS. TO ANYONE. Also, do you not "sing" your drill like cadets do. fucking....uhhhggg...yeah i was a cadet to. just dont do it
Yeah, the drill will suck ass except rifle drill but even that you learn in 5 seconds. Under no circumstances should you or anyone around you say "but in cadets we did it this way". Instant Death
All of the basic stuff like standing at attention, marching, etc., I'm assuming I pretend I don't know what I'm doing then. Cadets, at least my unit, did lots of things completely retardedly anyways so it'll be a nice respite.
On July 10 2008 04:37 gEzUS wrote: CHEAP WEED best thing about montreal !
This is so true. I remember picking up a h-q from some dudes who ran the pub we were playing foosball in. Played a few games with them, chatted for a bit, turned out they had a guy who did delivery service and could get whatever we wanted, lol. From a guy who ran a bar - and cheap prices! Love Montreal.
-Go see the old port (cobblestone streets, horses, old architecture, amazing atmosphere especially at this time of year)
-Go climb the mountain and get a fantastic view of downtown from the observatory (and bring a camera or you'll regret it)
-Try real poutine, preferably from a local place and not a chain restaurant like McD or burker king
-Try a queue de castor (beaver tail)
-Walk around St-Catherine / crescent / peel area for night life
-See the biodome and the olympic stadium
-La Ronde (six flags)
-Just for laughs festival
-Explore the underground; yeah it sounds really underwhelming, but consider that montreal has the largest underground network in the world. It connects most major areas of downtown together along with a bunch of shopping malls, cinemas, office buildings, restaurants, two major train terminals and several metro stations on seperate lines.
-bang french canadians but don't call them french canadians
lol shallow, I did the fucking BMT a few years ago but got hurt at the end because of some retard who wouldn't get off me during the fucking firefighter carry or whatever it's called.
DO NOT DO LIKE ME. DO NOT LEAD OR HELP ANYBODY AT THE BEGINING . Take it slow and learn as others learn or else the'll expect more from you and you'd like to show them you can "improve". I was suppose to be light infantry and so we got drilled every fucking day, all the fucking time because we had bad ass sgt and mcpl. If you have the option of getting somebody from the blackwatch please take that oppurtunity, at the begining you'll hate them because the'll piss you off, but they just want to fuck with your brain. Suck it up and fuck around with them haha (don't do that...it will get you killed)
Anyways as for montreal, if you like to play soccer, I'd be more than happy to kick your ass at it. If anybody else lives in Montreal and wants to get their asses handed at bw or soccer or any sport, please pm me . Oh if you want me to invite oldy, I can always do that too lol he goes to mcgill so ya... and schism[light] lives near udm i think and ya dude, you should just enjoy the just for laugh festival it's fantastic. Also go watch fireworks every saturday I think in the old port at 10:00-10:30 (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) it's a firework competition between nations.
Also, if you want asians, go to mcgill university campus or udm, the're always some there haha. If you want go out and meet asians... then tokyo and hmm I don't remember the other clubs that are highly asian lately.
Jgad: your french is far from perfect, I can assure you that. In fact, your only sentence doesn't really make sense in french.
I'm pretty sure that it does, but I'm curious as to what about it puzzles you.
edit : ok, the only thing I can think of that could be confusing you is the dialectal use of "après" to mean "going about doing", or the 'joual' phrase "sacrer son camp" - both of which I would expect any native speaker of Quebecois would understand. I get the feeling that you are a native speaker, though, so I might just guess that you're really young and maybe don't understand all that old-people talk? Anyway, I don't use joual when speaking in normal situations like touring a city, etc. It was just to give the post a bit of flavour.
Peut-être on utiliserait plus le Français si les Francophones n'était pas après sacrer leurs camps du language à chaque tour, hein?
"Français" (when you're talking about the language and not the people who speaks it" and "Francophones" doesn't have a capital F "était" should be written "étaient" (plural form) "après" before a verb is slang and only used by old people "leurs" and "camps" doesn't have an "s" (since it's not plural) "sacrer leur camp du langage" doesn't make any sense "à chaque tour" means "each turn" which I also dont get unless you're talking about a turn-based strategic computer game like alpha centuri ; )
Ok, so I haven't used written French in about ten years and yeah, I didn't grammar check my quick sentence - I still speak it fluently. Yes, it's written like old people talk - I did that on purpose to be cheeky. "A chaque tour" literally means "at every turn", but the meaning of "turn" is like "at every opportunity" - same meaning as "a chaque fois". And "sacrer son camp" - do you mean you've never heard this expression before? I find that really hard to believe if you're Quebecois (unless, as I say, you're really young).
Hehe... of course i've heard "sacrer son camp" many times... ; ) it just doesn't apply to language (only places).
"A chaque tour" (each turn) is not the same as "à chaque fois" ("each time").
I do not doubt you speak it fluently, it is way harder to write french properly...
Ok, well, where I grew up you could sacre your camp of just about anything - people, places, an old bazou, whatever. Writing french is indeed a bastard and that's probably why I haven't practiced in so long, lol. Anyways, I love the language, I think it's great when I get a chance to speak it, and it sucks when people have to play silly headgames instead of just replying to a person in the same language that they start with. I guess that's what I get for going to a touristy area, haha.
On July 10 2008 03:04 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Actually, Quebec has one official langage, french. But one cannot forbid english people to speak english, can he?
I always thought it was two :x
On July 10 2008 08:47 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
-Try real poutine, preferably from a local place and not a chain restaurant like McD or burker king
haha i am going there this weekend just to enjoy some poutine from la Banquise or la belle province
haha i am going there this weekend just to enjoy some poutine from la Banquise or la belle province
Oh lord, please, do not eat anything from "La Belle Province", it's worst than eating your own socks. La Banquise is an ok place, not a great poutine, but an incredible choice of crazy variations and it's open all night long also.
For a real poutine experience, you MUST go out of Montreal: Victoriaville/Warwick has no doubt the best one.
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u miss me miss that place.
maybe more.
. 
) and everywhere I go in Montreal I have to practically force people to speak French. I'm sure there's a slight accent in my french as English is definitely my first language, but it's like as soon as a sentence comes out, half the time people just reply in English. I usually have to press to carry on the conversation in French. Paris suffers from the same thing - it's always flooded with tourists so unless you're speaking Parisian dialect (or Montrealer in the former case), they just assume that you've gotten your one memorised phrase out and carry on in English. No... um, actually, I speak perfect French, thanks. Peut-être on utiliserait plus le Français si les Francophones n'était pas après sacrer leurs camps du language à chaque tour, hein? It is a shame, I agree. 
