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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 11 2008 00:41 GMT
#1
ARTICLE--

An embarrassment of riches

Jun 10th 2008
From the Economist Intelligence Unit ViewsWire
China's foreign reserves are growing at a staggering rate

Despite China's efforts to bring down its huge foreign-exchange reserves, they have hit another record high of US$1.76trn at the end of April. News reports say China is now accumulating reserves at a rate of US$100m per hour. Such a fast build-up raises a host of questions. What should or can China do about the skyrocketing reserves? Will policymakers again be forced to carry out a one-off revaluation of the renminbi? Are excessively large reserves stoking domestic inflation?

Before tackling these questions, China's foreign reserves must first be put into perspective. First, the reserves would have been even larger had the government not spent a portion of them to recapitalise state-owned banks before their overseas listings and to create the China Investment Corp (CIC), the country's US$200bn sovereign wealth fund. Second, at present levels the reserves can pay for about a year and half's worth of China's imports. In general, economists recommend a country to maintain enough reserves to pay for only 3-6 months of imported goods and services. Third, China's foreign debts—US$347bn as of the end of 2007—are less than 20% of its reserves. The country's foreign reserves, by any measure, are needlessly large.
Ineffective strategies

It is also clear that China's existing strategies to slow reserves accumulation have been ineffective. Cuts in export subsidies have not conspicuously shrunk China's massive trade surplus or export earnings so far. The appreciation of the renminbi against the US dollar in the past three years has not made much of a dent either. For the past couple of years the Chinese government has also been actively encouraging domestic firms and citizens to go abroad to acquire foreign assets or to travel and study, but the reserves' upwards march has continued.

In the absence of more drastic actions, it seems certain China's foreign reserves will top US$2trn within this year. The trade surplus is likely to persist, and reserve assets, after all, are generating interest incomes. The key concern for Chinese policymakers is the impact of foreign-currency inflows on domestic inflation. So far, the People's Bank of China (PBC, the central bank) has succeeded in largely sterilising increases in reserves and in maintaining relatively strict capital controls. However, as money keeps gushing into the country, these efforts are becoming more challenging. To contain excessive money supply, the PBC has also hiked banks' reserve-requirement ratio 16 times over the past two years. But in the end there is a limit to how much the PBC can curb bank lending or prevent some of the reserves from seeping into the domestic economy.

The early travails of the CIC are further evidence of the difficulty of managing such large foreign reserves. The need to diversify their holdings away from US Treasuries and other Western governments' debt was the key motive for forming China's first sovereign wealth fund. But the CIC's headline-grabbing but so far loss-making investments in the Blackstone Group, a US private-equity fund, and Morgan Stanley, a US investment bank, have drawn a flood of criticism in China. While the CIC's timing of these two transactions may have been plain bad luck, few Chinese have faith in its ability to generate a decent rate of return consistently. (It has not escaped people's notice that most key positions at the CIC are filled by political appointees, not investment professionals.)

China seems to have only two options if it seriously wants to reduce the level of foreign reserves. It can either accelerate the renminbi's appreciation or relax capital controls more. The latter action is unlikely this year. The plunge in China's stockmarket has made any policy that would encourage capital outflows politically untenable. China may adopt a much stronger renminbi policy. Some policymakers, though, apparently also want to reintroduce export subsidies for sectors most hurt by the currency appreciation that has already taken place. For example, to redress widespread textile-job losses, the government may allow a 2% increase in export-tax rebates for the industry. But then, it makes little sense to accelerate currency appreciation while giving exporters a helping hand. The reality is that China has run out of politically feasible means to bring down its reserves.

Consequently, China will face higher inflation. Indeed, as the speed of reserves accumulation shows no sign of slowing, the Chinese government may be tempted to mobilise some of the money for social purposes. For instance, it may give more subsidies to the poor to counter the inevitable (upwards) adjustment in state-regulated petrol and electricity prices. If so, the government must be extra careful as to not throw all fiscal prudence out the window. Otherwise, its tolerance level for inflation will be even more sorely tested in the coming months.

END ARTICLE--

http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11526752

Inflation? You will see inflation when they decide to put all those dollars on the market.

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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 11 2008 00:55 GMT
#2
This explains why F91's macro goes to shit when he gets defilers!
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ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
June 11 2008 00:56 GMT
#3
build more overlords
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LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
June 11 2008 00:56 GMT
#4
Well Chinese players always had good micro and bad macro. x)
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 11 2008 00:59 GMT
#5
Rofl
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 11 2008 01:10 GMT
#6
They need to tech up more and spend those damn mineral.
jingXD
Profile Joined May 2007
United States283 Posts
June 11 2008 01:38 GMT
#7
It's cuz they've hit the population cap and have too many workers. Right now they can only spend on the cheaper tier 1 tech until they free up some supply.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
June 11 2008 01:44 GMT
#8
China is lagging out because it lives in China
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 11 2008 02:11 GMT
#9
Their supply is like 1200000000/1200000000. How can they possibly have bad macro?
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
June 11 2008 02:16 GMT
#10
haha
great jokes
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
June 11 2008 02:27 GMT
#11
i love how pretty much every single one of the responses relate to starcraft
Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
June 11 2008 02:31 GMT
#12
Needs additiona pyrons!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 11 2008 03:29 GMT
#13
On June 11 2008 09:41 fight_or_flight wrote:


Inflation? You will see inflation when they decide to put all those dollars on the market.

And fuck themselves in the process?
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
June 11 2008 03:33 GMT
#14
This is probably my favorite blog title ever.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 11 2008 03:42 GMT
#15
They can't spend it on anything, they're already maxed out. They need to attack someone and lower their supply first before spending their reserves.
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
June 11 2008 03:44 GMT
#16
they should research everything. yes, even scout sight.
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 04:31:59
June 11 2008 04:21 GMT
#17
On June 11 2008 12:29 Jibba wrote:
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On June 11 2008 09:41 fight_or_flight wrote:
Inflation? You will see inflation when they decide to put all those dollars on the market.

And fuck themselves in the process?

Well they have got to do something eventually...and unless they decide to burn it, it will cause inflation.

Anyways, is pretty crazy how we get so much stuff from them and they basically get money which they can't spend.
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 11 2008 04:46 GMT
#18
I actually thought i misunderstood this at first, but the chinese have to much money....?

life must be HARD. They should just buy all the oil for kicks.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
June 11 2008 05:06 GMT
#19
The US will take some if the Chinese can't spend it. We're great at spending money.
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-11 05:57:07
June 11 2008 05:54 GMT
#20
On June 11 2008 13:46 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
I actually thought i misunderstood this at first, but the chinese have to much money....?

life must be HARD. They should just buy all the oil for kicks.

Yea, but they can't spend it. First it will crash their economy and a lot of the world economies if they try to spend it too fast (and utterly destroy ours). Second, we would probably go to war with them or something, thats for sure. Thats why politics is so complicated, because countries can utterly destroy each other, either with real nukes or these economic ones.

All they can do is slowly get rid of it here and there, buy a little gold, etc. But they have so much of it that they are in a awkward situation. Especially since the dollar is going down right now....they want to sell so they don't lose value, but if they do sell it will cause it to go down even more.

To put it in starcraft terms, they have about twice as many tanks as anyone else, but if they try to unsiege and move up they will be destroyed. But they don't really care right now because they are expanding like crazy.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 11 2008 06:58 GMT
#21
They do care though, because in this case the tanks gun can point bothways. A lowered value for the dollar is not favorable for the Chinese at all, thus our complaints all these time about how they peg the Yuan's value to the Dollar. Well, can't really be helped, but at least they have infrastructure to build still, unlike Japan, which is transforming into one truly screwed up economy. The concept of a money lender as a national profession sounds pretty silly, doesn't it?
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
June 11 2008 20:44 GMT
#22
Wierd...

It is like they have 10 expansions, but can only build scv/marine. If they tried to tech up to tanks, everyone else would get mad and kill them before they got tanks.
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 11 2008 20:52 GMT
#23
On June 12 2008 05:44 UmmTheHobo wrote:
It is like they have 10 expansions, but can only build scv/marine. If they tried to tech up to tanks, everyone else would get mad and kill them before they got tanks.

Yea, thats a good analogy, lol.
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