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Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
June 08 2008 18:54 GMT
#41
On June 08 2008 12:52 Jibba wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/08/science/earth/08wbiofuels.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0323/p01s01-sten.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/29/AR2008042903092.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725975,00.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/21/AR2008042102555.html

Stop
Supporting
Fucking
Biofuel.


And it is negatively affecting agriculture, even in the countries that can sustain it like the US and Brazil. Corn is being overplanted (bad for soil) which means less land is going towards other crops, driving their prices up. Then livestock owners are getting screwed by the increase in corn price so their prices rise as well. The biofuel industry is not driven by science or reason.


word
Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
June 08 2008 18:56 GMT
#42
On June 09 2008 00:49 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2008 14:34 FragKrag wrote:
Haha, Costco is so fucking gosu. $4.14 a gallon.

Ahh... Costco is always 10-15 cents less than surrounding gas areas :D


Heh I fill all the company vehicles up with gas where i work and i go to costco.
Its a bitch because everyone recently discovered costco's low prices and it takes me like 30 minutes to fill one fucking car.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 08 2008 19:15 GMT
#43
On June 09 2008 03:23 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2008 08:47 8882 wrote:
According to my calculation, gasoline will cost around $8 per galon in Poland. It has been ~$6 or more for quite a long time.

I wonder, how does the eurozone manage to develop, when nearly everything is more expensive than in the USA.
When the US citizens complain about $4 per gallon, I begin to wonder, why do we pay such high taxes and what do our governments do with all the money.

How much is it in other countries? Germany? France? Italy? GB?
If my calculations are right, it's ~$9 per gallon in Germany..


Why do you pay such high taxes? How do you think your countries can afford to subsidize/partially subsidize health care and things of that nature? We pay a lot less in taxes.

Part of the cost of gasoline is that there are only so many refineries in the world that are up to the standards of USA/Europe/Japan. Four of the biggest ones are in the USA; I don't know how many are located in and around Europe. If there aren't enough, then refined oil would have to be shipped back to Europe from the USA.

Part of it is that a lot of wealthy investors have parked their money in oil futures, which has jacked up oil prices by creating an artificial demand.

Probably the reason they are doing this is to bail out of real estate. In the past, investors would make "risk free" transactions by treating real estate as a commodity. In other words, so long as the value of real estate would continue to increase, a the transaction would be almost certain to turn a profit.

...But this caused a bubble in the real estate market, and when that bubble burst a lot of investors found themselves losing money really fast. So they asked themselves, "what other safe commodities are there to invest in?" No alternative fuel source has come along yet that is as efficient or effective as oil. Even this E-83 ethanol shit the media keeps touting -- the amount of energy needed to produce it is almost exactly the same as it gives in return, so this means that more oil burning powerplants will use more energy in order to produce the E-83. The difference between the enivornmental movement 30 years ago and the environmental movement today is that the corporations have figured out how to turn a profit from it (hence why it hasn't taken off in America -- who flips the bill? Tax payers, not corporations, not wealthy investors, which is something most people have yet to grasp).

But I digress. The point is that no matter what happens, demand for oil will continue increasing for AT LEAST 10 more years. So in order to make "risk free" deals, oil is the thing to use, but this creates an artificial demand for it, just like how real estate became over priced 2-3 years ago.

This is a pretty sweet post.

I just want to defend the US transportation system a little bit. I know it's not good, especially here in Michigan, but this is a large fucking country. I've seen idiots talk about how we need to develop a more modern transit system similar to Japanese subways and trains. Well, that may work when you're the size of New Mexico (which is a huge exaggeration, because Honshu is the only island that well connected) but not so much in America. If the Czech Republic were 122 times larger than it currently is, its roads would be a lot shittier than they currently are. We're 17 times bigger than the largest Western European country (France) so give us a bit of a break with the road systems.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 08 2008 19:57 GMT
#44
you shouldn't compare by direct conversion to USD, b/c pple's wages and exchange rates differ from country to country.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11602 Posts
June 09 2008 00:48 GMT
#45


GOGO!
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 09 2008 02:44 GMT
#46
On June 09 2008 04:15 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2008 03:23 Mortality wrote:
On June 08 2008 08:47 8882 wrote:
According to my calculation, gasoline will cost around $8 per galon in Poland. It has been ~$6 or more for quite a long time.

I wonder, how does the eurozone manage to develop, when nearly everything is more expensive than in the USA.
When the US citizens complain about $4 per gallon, I begin to wonder, why do we pay such high taxes and what do our governments do with all the money.

How much is it in other countries? Germany? France? Italy? GB?
If my calculations are right, it's ~$9 per gallon in Germany..


Why do you pay such high taxes? How do you think your countries can afford to subsidize/partially subsidize health care and things of that nature? We pay a lot less in taxes.

Part of the cost of gasoline is that there are only so many refineries in the world that are up to the standards of USA/Europe/Japan. Four of the biggest ones are in the USA; I don't know how many are located in and around Europe. If there aren't enough, then refined oil would have to be shipped back to Europe from the USA.

Part of it is that a lot of wealthy investors have parked their money in oil futures, which has jacked up oil prices by creating an artificial demand.

Probably the reason they are doing this is to bail out of real estate. In the past, investors would make "risk free" transactions by treating real estate as a commodity. In other words, so long as the value of real estate would continue to increase, a the transaction would be almost certain to turn a profit.

...But this caused a bubble in the real estate market, and when that bubble burst a lot of investors found themselves losing money really fast. So they asked themselves, "what other safe commodities are there to invest in?" No alternative fuel source has come along yet that is as efficient or effective as oil. Even this E-83 ethanol shit the media keeps touting -- the amount of energy needed to produce it is almost exactly the same as it gives in return, so this means that more oil burning powerplants will use more energy in order to produce the E-83. The difference between the enivornmental movement 30 years ago and the environmental movement today is that the corporations have figured out how to turn a profit from it (hence why it hasn't taken off in America -- who flips the bill? Tax payers, not corporations, not wealthy investors, which is something most people have yet to grasp).

But I digress. The point is that no matter what happens, demand for oil will continue increasing for AT LEAST 10 more years. So in order to make "risk free" deals, oil is the thing to use, but this creates an artificial demand for it, just like how real estate became over priced 2-3 years ago.

This is a pretty sweet post.

I just want to defend the US transportation system a little bit. I know it's not good, especially here in Michigan, but this is a large fucking country. I've seen idiots talk about how we need to develop a more modern transit system similar to Japanese subways and trains. Well, that may work when you're the size of New Mexico (which is a huge exaggeration, because Honshu is the only island that well connected) but not so much in America. If the Czech Republic were 122 times larger than it currently is, its roads would be a lot shittier than they currently are. We're 17 times bigger than the largest Western European country (France) so give us a bit of a break with the road systems.


It's not just that. After WWII, what did Europe and Japan do? They rebuilt railways. What did the USA do? Federal Highway Act (establishment of the interstate system). Pre-WWII, we were the world leaders on the railways; post-WWII, we were the world leaders in automobile use.

Following that, during the 1950's and later, there was a massive trend towards suburbanization. Cars were plentiful, there were lots of freshly built roads, gas was cheap, and you could buy a real big house out in the boonies and then commute to the city very easily. Even today, some people who work in DC commute from Pennsylvania and West Virginia, which is probably about 100 miles each way (160 km).

I love trains. I wish we'd have more of them. Just, setting up railway systems now is costly, difficult, and not terribly effective. To add insult to injury, the companies that run the trains are heavily subsidized by the government. No matter how good or bad a job they do, they still get their money. Companies like Metro and Amtrak are terribly managed. If a train in Japan runs even 5 minutes late, the conductor is forced to apologize -- that mentality is just completely different.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
June 09 2008 05:24 GMT
#47
lol we own, the litre here is about $.70c USD, so the gallon would be like $2.5 and still, we struggle to pay for the gas T.T
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
June 09 2008 05:36 GMT
#48
$7.35 for me right now.

Good thing my car only has a 660cc engine.

And burning food for fuel makes my stomach turn. When will western society finally understand that hemp is a gift from god, and with it we can do so much more than we can by burning corn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

Open your eyes.
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