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GomTV Classic - Season1 - Groups A-D (2008.4.13)

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Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-17 01:45:50
April 14 2008 23:07 GMT
#1
I enjoyed writing up comments for the surprise tournament so I figured I would try it again. Last time I was mostly judging the game quality and Tasteless's casting; this time I will do some analysis of the games (inspired by Chill's great Self Improvement thread). Basically I am going to write down 'key events' to assign points to one of the players as I watch. If my analysis is good then the winners should have more points at the end. To start with I will only award points (so rather than subtracting, I would add points to the opponent for a good attack or something).

As before I am going to just do edit-updates for each game as I go.

Any comments on if you agree/disagree with my analysis is welcome: I am still a SC noob so this is a learning exercise for me

[Group A] Game 1 LuCifer vs Wannabe
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Steals Gas (+1 Lucifer)
Expo (+1 Lucifer)
Amazing ZLot Micro vs Marines (+1 Lucifer)
Expo (+1 Wannabe)
Expo (+1 Lucifer)
Force SCV Pull (+1 Lucifer)
Goon micro takes many tanks (+1 Lucifer)
Expo (+1 Wannabe)
Expo (+1 Lucifer)
Kill's Expo (+1 Lucifer)
-- GG Lucifer(8) > Wanabe(2) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- Very one sided, so not a great way to see if I am 'calling the score', but I did call it correctly at least. Lucifer impressed the hell out of me: his micro was fantastic and he totally dominated Wanabe.
- I am probably going to have to assign points for tech, right now I am only concentrating on micro and expoing.
- Hopefully future games will be closer to challenge this method of analysis more.


[Group A] Game 2 - LuCifer vs Wannabe
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Expo - L++
Expo - W++
RoboTech - L++
Turret Wall - W++
Secret MnM Build - W++
Carrier Tech - L++
Amazing Reaver Micro - L++
Defeats Push with Reaver Micro - L++
Defeats 2nd Push easily (goons) - L++
Reaver double harass drop - L++
-- Lucifer(7) > Wannabe(3) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- Exciting game with the very unusual timing MnM push. It was an all in strategy and I think had a great chance to win if not for Lucifer's incredible Reaver micro.
- I am officially a Lucifer fan. This guy's micro play is fantastic and he seems to align his strategies toward that strength, with plenty of aggressive play.
- Another game that "predicted it's self" once points were awarded for the battle victories.


[Group A] Game 3 - LuCifer vs Wannabe
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There is no Game 3!


[Group B] Game 1 - YellOW vs asam
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Expo - a++
Expo - y++
Hydra Timing Attack - y++
Corsair - a++
Expo Ruined - y++
-- YellOW(3) > asam(2) -- Prediction: Correct (kinda) --
Thoughts:
- Extremely fast all in crushes asam. Great use of zerglings to keep asam from scouting it out with probes (should have awarded a point for this, probably)
- Short game like this is hard to evaluate, because the only deciding points are the result of the final attack doing its damage. Good game tho.


[Group B] Game 2 - YellOW vs asam
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Expo - y++
Expo - a++
Expo - y++
zlot rush not effective - y++
scout probe spots tech - a++
corsairs - a++
zlot attack on 2nd expo successful - a++
hero zlot sneaks in and gets 6 drones - a++
hydra push breaks cannon wall - y++
Drop does some damage - y++
Reaver/Shuttle lost - y++
Asam holds off attacks - a++
Drop defeated with no damage - a++
Reaver harass effective - a++
Another successful reaver harass - a++
Reaver & DT simultaneous harass - a++
Expo - a++
Reaver harass - a++
Doom drop - y++
Counter attack against defenseless main - a++
-- YellOW(7) < asam(12) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- Must mention I saw there was a 3rd game ahead of time, so I entered this knowing asam pulls it out. I still evaluated it play-by-play however.
- Almost feel dirty about so many points being awarded for harass, but each point was for a separate harass which was effective. Asam just decimated YellOW's economy for a few minutes straight with drop after drop.
- Probably the biggest reason asam won this was YellOW investing so much in the timing push and having a weakened economy that could not cope with what came after the push was deflected. It is a bit hard to show that in this 'event point based system', however.
- I am in love with these less-known Protoss micro masters. I am guessing they are not top players yet due to weaknesses in their macro game, but I just LOVE watching low supply micro-heavy games.


[Group B] Game 3 - YellOW vs asam
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Scouting Mistake - y++
Expo - a++
Expo - y++
Lair Tech - y++
Hero probe scouts tech - a++
Secret lurker drop - y++
Cannons down, Lurkers in main - y++
Nexus lost - y++
Drop in expo - y++
Main Drop - y++
Reaver Drop - a++
Mutas - y++
Expo - y++
Lurker Harass - y++
-- YellOW(11) > asam(3) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- Excellent game. Yellow's secret drop was so risky, but it paid off in spades.
- Games like these make the event-prediction system too easy.
- Poor asam! I was really hoping he would take this one. I hope to see more from him in the future; his play impressed me a lot.


- Time to sleep... Who knows if I will feel motivated to continue this tomorrow..

[Group C] Game 1 - Effort vs ToSsGirL
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Expo - e
Wall In - t
Expo - t
Spire - e
Expo - e
Attack on exp - e
Counter attack on expo - t
Held off attack with minimal loss - t
Broke sunken line - t
-- Effort (4) < ToSsGirL(5) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- Too short, but really liked the tricky command-center WallIn/FE build that ToSsGirL used.


[Group C] Game 2 - Effort vs ToSsGirL
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Expo - e
Wallin - t
Expo - t
Expo - e
Hold Lurker Trap - e
Lurker Attack - e
Lurker Contain Leapfrogging Attack - e
Moving into main with Lurkers - e
-- Effort (6) > ToSsGirL(2) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- Disappointing game with unexciting play. The one nice move was the very successful HoldLurker trap that decimated ToSsGirL's advance force.. But what was she even trying to do with that attack group anyway? Effort had firm control of the game after that but was too afraid to launch the final blow until he had overwhelming forces.


[Group C] Game 3 - Effort vs ToSsGirL
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Expo - e
Expo - t
Spire tech - e
Advance mnm force defeated - e
Attack on base - e
Lurkers - e
Harass continues effectiveness - e
Lurkers killed with minimal losses - t
Lurkers burrow at expo - e
Expo lost - e
Expo - e
Expo - e
-- Effort (10) > ToSsGirL(2) -- Prediction: Correct --
Thoughts:
- I wonder why vod 106 was skipped?
- "Tasteless vs pronouns" earned a LOL from me.
- Poor ToSsGirL looked so sad at the end.


[Group D] Game 1 - Baby vs Robbie
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Expo - r
Expo - b
Spire - r
Expo - r
Expo Canceled - b
Zerglings Kill Turrets - r
Counter attack on Expo - b
Science Vessels - b
Lurkers - r
Baby holds map control - b
-- Baby (5) > Robbie(5) -- Prediction: Off --
Thoughts:
- It was a tied prediction, but I should have been awarding baby points for some of his unit control. Many battles he came out on top and those were what really secured his victory.
- Sunk...enColony.. Haha, Tasteless must read the boards.


[Group D] Game 2 - Baby vs Robbie
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Expo - r
Expo - b
Mutas - r
Expo - r
Turrets - b
Lurkers - r
Attack on expo - b
Attack on main - b
Saved Expo - r
Amazing lurker shot - r
Defilers dropped carelessly - b
Drones destroyed - b
-- Baby (6) > Robbie(6) -- Prediction: Off --
Thoughts:
- Again, I was off because of not awarding Baby enough points for successful attacks. When an attack happens, give a point. If an attack succeeds, give a point. If an attack kills an expo, give a point. I need to follow that more closely if I want to improve my accuracy.


[Group D] Game 3 - Baby vs Robbie
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There is no Game 3!


That concludes groups A-D.

#1 Shuttle Fan.
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
April 17 2008 01:46 GMT
#2
Pardon the self-bump, but since I finished my analysis for all the games I figured I would let people know it is finished, in case they want to give any feedback.
#1 Shuttle Fan.
Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
April 17 2008 03:32 GMT
#3
Pretty interesting style of analysis. I haven't finished reading all of them yet but they sound good.

My recommendations are to keep one style of giving points (+1 Lucifer/L++/l) and to tell us who wins (Prediction: Off/tied).
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
April 17 2008 15:08 GMT
#4
On April 17 2008 12:32 Narrator wrote:
Pretty interesting style of analysis. I haven't finished reading all of them yet but they sound good.

My recommendations are to keep one style of giving points (+1 Lucifer/L++/l) and to tell us who wins (Prediction: Off/tied).


Ah the > and < symbols were my way of saying who actually wins. Maybe I can make this a lot clearer.. I agree on trying to keep one style of points, kept slimming it down to avoid typing.
#1 Shuttle Fan.
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