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On being a girl in the Starcraft gaming community. - Page 4

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kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
March 08 2008 20:16 GMT
#61
Trust me, any flak you get here for being a girl is nothing compared to what you would get in an FPS such as CS.
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-08 20:17:53
March 08 2008 20:16 GMT
#62
You care too much what people think about say about you. Your gender is irrilevent in most thing considered starcraft. I do however sympathize with the name calling and general harrassment but what starcraft gamer hasn't been flamed or abused in a similar manner?

Rather then to view these things as something that seperates you from us, i would suggest the viewpoint that these conflicts and flame wars actaully make you more similar to the males then you relize.

Its an iniation (with the exception of the extreme's), take it on the chin deal with it and eventually you will be accepted (wither thats important to you or not is subjective)

The first few post are pretty much the general response of most blogs on here and are not specific to you because your a girl but because your a member of this community.

Welcome home slut
Hell i get asked for cyber all the time too but i survive.
I wrote a song once.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
March 08 2008 20:31 GMT
#63
omg i actually started reading and then scrolled down. too long.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 08 2008 20:33 GMT
#64
On March 09 2008 04:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2008 04:49 jkillashark wrote:
Hiya niji. As corny as this may sound, this was very brave of you. I myself, try to do my best to be mannered to people online. Even when they act like a dick to me, I always have a small urge to just shoot back at them but that's just feeding the fire. I agree with what you said, why have a relationship with people who are assholes to you?

Sadly, the maturity level of people differs drastically. Some people will be able to see a female gamer as a peer. Others will just see a girl as a girl and that they are better than you because guys play more games. I remember back in the summer, my friend is a hardcore CvS2 player and he played a girl who was a P-groover. He said got freaking OCV-ed. But he treated her as a peer. I think because people can hide online, they can show their inner immaturity. That's just the way online gaming will always be.


What do all of these acronyms mean?


oh so you are not into the awesome world of fighting games

cvs2 = capcom vs snk 2
p-groove=it's like another choice next to character choosing
ocv=one character victory, one men kills the other team

I ' d marry the first nice girl who plays Guilty Gear, lol.



And all is illuminated.
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
March 08 2008 20:38 GMT
#65
On a side note: I dated a starcraft chick in highschool, gave the best head but had terrible micro.
I wrote a song once.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 08 2008 20:52 GMT
#66
lol i click this out of curiosity


obv 4 pages of comments
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51502 Posts
March 08 2008 21:40 GMT
#67
of course tough man
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LacunaCoil
Profile Joined August 2004
France17 Posts
March 08 2008 21:41 GMT
#68
I completely agree with what you said Niji. Having experienced it myself pretty much my whole time playing SC i can relate to a lot of it. There are tons of pests in bnet though the key is to avoid the people who are going to just harass you, its not worth the time to try and convince someone who has their mind already made up about what you are. But before i go ranting on we should definitely play some time.

And to Tadzio00 i didn't care that you didn't say "gg" it was more your self-esteem and how you put yourself down after each of our games. You weren't seeing what you could actually do to better your play vs me, you just saw it as being "owned" TT and u didn't want to review the replay afterwards.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51502 Posts
March 08 2008 21:42 GMT
#69
anyway watching this segment on this australian tv show showed me that its not a place where men can flap their penises around anymore.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 08 2008 21:58 GMT
#70
i agree

i got so much shit for being a girl at the last community i was in that i just gave up and didnt mention anything this time around
posting on liquid sites in current year
MrBobby
Profile Joined February 2008
United Kingdom21 Posts
March 08 2008 22:04 GMT
#71
the moment people start insulting you or just being bm in any way, block. if its an obs game, just continue to watch the players in question. if its a 1v1 just own them really bad ;p
basically you don't need to talk to these people to enjoy sc do you? I don't think you should be putting up with stuff like that, because I know it affects you even if you think you're ignoring it or it doen't bother you. Insults have a way of creeping in.
Just think 'God you must be such an idiot to behave like that', then feel superiour as you block.

As always, people should be judged as individuals, not by skin colour/gender/occupation.
As always, it's difficult when the stereotypes tend to be true for a group. ie 'women are bad at starcraft' (only coz most of them don't play it :/ ) or, 'people wearing nike and hoodys are more likely to steal' people dressed like that are more likely to fall under suspicion, female starcraft players are likely to be stereotyped.

but as someone from a minority, I find that it makes it much easier to find the people I want to be friends with- they come to me, as they are the ones who don't treat me differantly in the first place.
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
March 08 2008 22:14 GMT
#72
The great thing about the internet is anonymity. I do not see any point in pointing out your name, race, gender or age, on battle.net your just another player up for a game. I only talk about characteristics of myself after I have known the person online for quite a while.
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
March 08 2008 22:20 GMT
#73
How do koreans treat female gamers? Usually koreans come off as very mannered to me (although maybe its just because I can't understand what they're saying, lol).
Do you really want chat rooms?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 08 2008 22:57 GMT
#74
I love how there's so many responses in this blog thread. Goes to show what kind of attention this kind of revelation attracts.

It just is difficult in any setting being in the minority where stigmas and preconceptions associated with that group are so strong. It's probably harder than most people think to be a nothing as opposed to openly being a female. Denying the truth of yourself is a difficult thing; for a guy on the internet, being male is often implicit, so there's not a strong need to affirm this assumption. I think people saying "why you bring this up" are not realizing or appreciating this facet.

The funny thing is, when people do find out at first, by gaining this knowledge about you (and I mean "you" in a general sense, although it applies to you actually), they come to understand you even less than they did before. For in their minds, you become more the mask of their preconceptions and less the fragment of a person they've seen online.
LeafHouse
Profile Joined June 2007
United States185 Posts
March 08 2008 23:13 GMT
#75
Man, this is super interesting to me. Niji-z can react to all these things in so many ways and never really be wrong or dumb. Aside from the sorts of comments people make in their safety of anonimity, there's no reason to lie about gender. At the same time it's not entirely necessary for anybody to know gender to play a game or to have the sorts of friends you can find on the internet. (which, in my opinion, it's impossible to have the same kind of connection with people online as you can with a person you actually live with)

But theres a certain kind of, "Well, why the hell not tell people?" As far as I've seen, girls like jkillashark and mnm are treated very well, and it'd be strange for me to read their posts and not know they're girls. It all comes to the point which says "tl is simply a good online community and letting people be more of who they are lets them contribute more fully and enrich what's going on here"

I guess that's why I like TL and ended up joining the community rather than just trolling forever and feeding off of the contributions of everyone else. This is a fairly unique place which allows a diverse sampling of smart people allowed to communicate in a broader sense of how that is, not just united under starcraft (because if it was, I don't believe there would be as much real content here as there is).
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 08 2008 23:24 GMT
#76
On March 09 2008 05:38 AdamBanks wrote:
On a side note: I dated a starcraft chick in highschool, gave the best head but had terrible micro.


I'm guessing you were the micro of the relationship
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bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-08 23:51:47
March 08 2008 23:34 GMT
#77
Two of my friends on bnet that I play with nearly on a daily basis are girls. Ive noticed most of the time they don't like to mention their gender to new teammates. It's weird for me to because if I have to say something as simple as "Wait 2 seconds shes coming" then I out her.

Or if we're playing and then 1 of my other friends joins us and acts like a total douche, you know basicly the way guys act around eachother, I feel like I have to appoligize for him. Or on the flip side (it's OK, im bringing it back) if someones acting really BM the girls are usually quiet, so is it up to me to say something? In RL most definitely, but on bnet does that just come across as BM?

I know how it feels to be the odd "man" out. Im pretty sure 98% of the time when Im playing online its against other males. So when when its the 3 of us playing together, or maybe me vs them in a 2v2, it has a different feel. I can still remember the first time they beat me, mostly because it was the first I had ever lost to her, and I had played atleast 15 games against her at this point. You lose a little bit of freedom though, no more "gj guys" or "PWND BITCH!" when we beat a BM player. Besides our conversations that are a little different then what I would talk about if it was all guys, and what I just mentioned, it's all the same. Overall I enjoy having some female friends on bnet, its nice to mix things up, and to be honest I think girls gaming (especially BW) is hot.

One of my bnet friends actually met his current girlfriend on bnet, they've been going out for a year now. I was playing in the game with him when he was chatting her up and they decided to meet. Its almost like I was there when they first met hahaha.
Lisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Latvia376 Posts
March 08 2008 23:41 GMT
#78
I change from 'he' to 'she', and stop discussing bizzare and disgusting porn in presense of girls.
Couldn't care less about your gender online.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
March 08 2008 23:51 GMT
#79
Quick question, as a representative of the female gaming community, do you find it particularly offensive when someone uses terms like 'rape' to describe the outcome of a game.

Idk, it just seems to me that it would be like beating a black player and saying 'man, you just got lynched.' -(I'm not racist, just an example.)
bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
March 08 2008 23:52 GMT
#80
On March 09 2008 08:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Quick question, as a representative of the female gaming community, do you find it particularly offensive when someone uses terms like 'rape' to describe the outcome of a game.


Great question, Ive wondered that my self.
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