EPTOn being a girl in the Starcraft gaming community. - Page 4
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
Rather then to view these things as something that seperates you from us, i would suggest the viewpoint that these conflicts and flame wars actaully make you more similar to the males then you relize. Its an iniation (with the exception of the extreme's), take it on the chin deal with it and eventually you will be accepted (wither thats important to you or not is subjective) The first few post are pretty much the general response of most blogs on here and are not specific to you because your a girl but because your a member of this community. Welcome home slut  Hell i get asked for cyber all the time too but i survive. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
oh so you are not into the awesome world of fighting games  cvs2 = capcom vs snk 2 p-groove=it's like another choice next to character choosing ocv=one character victory, one men kills the other team I ' d marry the first nice girl who plays Guilty Gear, lol. | ||
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
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GTR
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LacunaCoil
France17 Posts
 though the key is to avoid the people who are going to just harass you, its not worth the time to try and convince someone who has their mind already made up about what you are. But before i go ranting on we should definitely play some time. And to Tadzio00 i didn't care that you didn't say "gg" it was more your self-esteem and how you put yourself down after each of our games. You weren't seeing what you could actually do to better your play vs me, you just saw it as being "owned" TT and u didn't want to review the replay afterwards. | ||
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GTR
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
i got so much shit for being a girl at the last community i was in that i just gave up and didnt mention anything this time around | ||
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MrBobby
United Kingdom21 Posts
basically you don't need to talk to these people to enjoy sc do you? I don't think you should be putting up with stuff like that, because I know it affects you even if you think you're ignoring it or it doen't bother you. Insults have a way of creeping in. Just think 'God you must be such an idiot to behave like that', then feel superiour as you block. As always, people should be judged as individuals, not by skin colour/gender/occupation. As always, it's difficult when the stereotypes tend to be true for a group. ie 'women are bad at starcraft' (only coz most of them don't play it :/ ) or, 'people wearing nike and hoodys are more likely to steal' people dressed like that are more likely to fall under suspicion, female starcraft players are likely to be stereotyped. but as someone from a minority, I find that it makes it much easier to find the people I want to be friends with- they come to me, as they are the ones who don't treat me differantly in the first place. | ||
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
It just is difficult in any setting being in the minority where stigmas and preconceptions associated with that group are so strong. It's probably harder than most people think to be a nothing as opposed to openly being a female. Denying the truth of yourself is a difficult thing; for a guy on the internet, being male is often implicit, so there's not a strong need to affirm this assumption. I think people saying "why you bring this up" are not realizing or appreciating this facet. The funny thing is, when people do find out at first, by gaining this knowledge about you (and I mean "you" in a general sense, although it applies to you actually), they come to understand you even less than they did before. For in their minds, you become more the mask of their preconceptions and less the fragment of a person they've seen online. | ||
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LeafHouse
United States185 Posts
Niji-z can react to all these things in so many ways and never really be wrong or dumb. Aside from the sorts of comments people make in their safety of anonimity, there's no reason to lie about gender. At the same time it's not entirely necessary for anybody to know gender to play a game or to have the sorts of friends you can find on the internet. (which, in my opinion, it's impossible to have the same kind of connection with people online as you can with a person you actually live with)But theres a certain kind of, "Well, why the hell not tell people?" As far as I've seen, girls like jkillashark and mnm are treated very well, and it'd be strange for me to read their posts and not know they're girls. It all comes to the point which says "tl is simply a good online community and letting people be more of who they are lets them contribute more fully and enrich what's going on here" I guess that's why I like TL and ended up joining the community rather than just trolling forever and feeding off of the contributions of everyone else. This is a fairly unique place which allows a diverse sampling of smart people allowed to communicate in a broader sense of how that is, not just united under starcraft (because if it was, I don't believe there would be as much real content here as there is). | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 09 2008 05:38 AdamBanks wrote: On a side note: I dated a starcraft chick in highschool, gave the best head but had terrible micro. I'm guessing you were the micro of the relationship + Show Spoiler + in the pants | ||
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bustaBust
Canada469 Posts
Or if we're playing and then 1 of my other friends joins us and acts like a total douche, you know basicly the way guys act around eachother, I feel like I have to appoligize for him. Or on the flip side (it's OK, im bringing it back) if someones acting really BM the girls are usually quiet, so is it up to me to say something? In RL most definitely, but on bnet does that just come across as BM? I know how it feels to be the odd "man" out. Im pretty sure 98% of the time when Im playing online its against other males. So when when its the 3 of us playing together, or maybe me vs them in a 2v2, it has a different feel. I can still remember the first time they beat me, mostly because it was the first I had ever lost to her, and I had played atleast 15 games against her at this point. You lose a little bit of freedom though, no more "gj guys" or "PWND BITCH!" when we beat a BM player. Besides our conversations that are a little different then what I would talk about if it was all guys, and what I just mentioned, it's all the same. Overall I enjoy having some female friends on bnet, its nice to mix things up, and to be honest I think girls gaming (especially BW) is hot. One of my bnet friends actually met his current girlfriend on bnet, they've been going out for a year now. I was playing in the game with him when he was chatting her up and they decided to meet. Its almost like I was there when they first met hahaha. | ||
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Lisk
Latvia376 Posts
Couldn't care less about your gender online. | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
Idk, it just seems to me that it would be like beating a black player and saying 'man, you just got lynched.' -(I'm not racist, just an example.) | ||
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bustaBust
Canada469 Posts
On March 09 2008 08:51 Lemonwalrus wrote: Quick question, as a representative of the female gaming community, do you find it particularly offensive when someone uses terms like 'rape' to describe the outcome of a game. Great question, Ive wondered that my self. | ||
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