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[Iccup] Didn't Quite End It yet..

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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-28 19:08:12
February 28 2008 17:41 GMT
#1
So, even with the "carpel tunnel syndrome" I diagnosed myself with, I kept playing this god-forsaken game. The result? Well, I took it easy and my right hand's fine now. And...I also went back into iccup -_-

Currently, I am still extremely unsatisfied with myself. I still struggle in the B- range, fluctuating a lot between C+/B-. I feel like I'm making some trivial error which should be easily fixed, yet I can't put my finger on it. I know my micro is not the problem, and my build orders seem fairly solid. I'm also fairly confident in my macro, in that I am fairly adept at balancing unit production facilities, expos, and probe numbers.

Still, I'm doing something terribly wrong. I'm losing games not like a B- player, but more like an amateur. I think the main reasons are that I tend to re-use and recycle my build orders, so I'm used to responding in a limited way to similar situations, which obviously is a problem against multiple players with different styles. I also tend to avoid late game like the plague. Instead of trying to grab expos and play passively, I usually opt for the "hasty" builds. Mass gaming is helping me realize this though. Speaking of mass gaming...

I began Iccup on January 9th or something January 21st. So in a little over a month, I played 265 games. And I work all day except sundays. Funny how I couldn't even play a quarter of that amount when I played sc all day and never worked -_-

Iccup page: http://iccup.com/profile.php?lookup=104649

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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 28 2008 19:00 GMT
#2
I know how you feel, like missing that X factor to a game or even to a series of games. It's harsh, but keep your chin up [: A little more practice, probably some replay review, and you will get over it I'm sure.

Good luck!
Peace~
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
February 28 2008 19:32 GMT
#3
you still gonna make a guide :O
pvp pvz take too much thinking for me :x
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
February 28 2008 19:41 GMT
#4
On February 29 2008 04:32 ATeddyBear wrote:
you still gonna make a guide :O
pvp pvz take too much thinking for me :x


PvP

4d5z6d7z8t9p0p

1a2a3a4a

Oh, and storm drop

PvZ

Templars.
Archons.
Templars.
Archons.

And a shitton of zeals. And a shitton of goons.

Oh, and storm drop

+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, seriously, I will work on that guide, but I want to improve my own understanding of this game first. Wait a little :o
1t2t3t4t5taw
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Andorra173 Posts
February 28 2008 20:02 GMT
#5
I had a similar problem, the one where you play hasty instead of settling in for the long game. Once I realized this and curbed it (it took a lot of willpower), I began to do a shitload better. Now instead of doing rush and all-ins all the time, I settle in for a macro game and I find that my macro and overall ability to be significantly superior to the opponents that I would lose to over and over doing some dumb fast attack build that would fail.

One problem I encountered on ICCUP is that each map requires somewhat different strategy, especially in TvT for me. So I usually start the week out losing on the new MOTWs while I adapt to it, and then by the end of the week (if I've been playing that week) I learn the MOTWs pretty well and start winning more. Then the MOTW changes. So it's not very good for my score but overall I know it's helping me improve a lot.
afadf
Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
February 28 2008 21:20 GMT
#6
I know exactly what you mean about playing hastily, This is the reason why I never got to much into 1:1 on iccup, Alot of times I find myself playing agaisnt some one who I know is worse but since im impatient and I just want to get a quick win so I can move on, I find myself makeing stupid mistakes
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 28 2008 22:56 GMT
#7
The thing you're doing wrong is not being a terrible player.

<3 zil!
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Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
February 28 2008 23:18 GMT
#8
last seemster i played 300 games in 1.5 weeks.

good prac.
555, kthxbai
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
February 29 2008 01:18 GMT
#9
maybe u should react to your opponents build instead of playing with a pre-determined build
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
February 29 2008 05:38 GMT
#10
I played 35ish games on iccup in 2 months. No wonder im still at d/d+ -_-
ils
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