• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:46
CET 11:46
KST 19:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced14[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Information Request Regarding Chinese Ladder SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh's Valkyrie Copium BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1347 users

iCCup C-

Blogs > Superiorwolf
Post a Reply
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 22:17:43
February 10 2008 21:49 GMT
#1
Finally, I can continue my blog after the sports tryouts! Currently I'm 30-24, and I got to C- as a 20-9. I am really bordering on the C- level, but mainly it's because yesterday I was playing absolutely HORRENDOUSLY! I lost 11 games and only won 3. Every single time I played a game my speed went down, I had less morale and my mechanics/play just overall decreased the more I lost. So I decided to quit there and then play today. Today I'm doing much much better. I don't know if yesterday I was having a bad day or because it was late that there were better players on. Here's 6 games I've chosen, 3 I lost and 3 I won. I chose the 3 I won because it's extremely annoying when ZvP on Tau Cross they block the natural, but generally they feel they are safe and are either too nooby/didn't scout or something and you can take advantage of their holes in the gameplay.

I feel that the three games I lost were mainly due to decision making problems, mechanics problems and multitasking. I starting slowing down. In one game, I didn't scout properly and went the wrong way while he came to rape my expansions. Then I rushed back and had the worst flank ever, and he had excellent storms due to my mistake. Another game I kept getting too greedy and lost my huge advantage. My ZvT must get improved if I want to get C, I always get a huge advantage and lose it later in the game.

WINS:
Game 1: ZvP
This game my opponent did the block, and left his probe inside. His probe made some cannons and 2 gates, so he was able to pressure me, but it wasn't too hard to fend off. He did do a nice job splitting up his army to get my drones and sunken, fortunately for me he didn't get any drones and only managed to kill my sunken.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Zealots were split to kill my drones
This whole time I had been researching drop and the hydralisk upgrades, and I broke out of the pylon block. From there I slow dropped over the wall and targetted + destroyed his main nexus, as well as a few reavers that had just come out.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Focusing on the main nexus
[image loading]
Poor reaver
Then I went behind his minerals where it was unprotected, sniped his probes and it was GG.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Game 2: ZvP
This game my opponent doesn't actually even use the pylon block, he cancels it! I cancelled my hatchery and made a proxy hatchery (lol) inside his base.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Proxy hatch LOL
This is a great move if you want to humiliate someone. I think it'd work better if they wasted minerals on their pylon block with cannons, but still, I added some sunkens and took out his main nexus, then proceeded to go for upgraded hydras to take out the rest of his base.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]



Game 3: ZvP
Again, the pylon block. I take a secret expansion and do the hydra/drop tech again. He pressures with 2 zealots and
I only have 4 lings, so I lose a few drones as he brings more. He almost takes out one of my hatcheries but I saved it just in time.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I have a slight suspicion this guy was hacking, because all of a sudden for no reason he sent 12 zealots at my secret expansion.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Why did he randomnly send these zealots here -_-
I kept dropping, preventing him from expanding. He killed my first drop, but then I did a bigger drop and he got weaker and weaker until I killed his main nexus and destroyed the rest of his army.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
For the Swarm!!!


LOSSES
Game 1: ZvP
The guy does a 6 gate speedzeal +1 build.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Wow, 5 more gates?!
I thought I had adequately prepared for it with 2.5 ctrl groups of lings and 3 lurkers, but he came with his +1 about 20 seconds earlier than mine, dominated my lings and ran past my lurkers.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
Before

[image loading]
After

[image loading]


Game 2: ZvP
This is a very good look at my bad decision making. All three of these games I had very bad macro in cases where I have much better macro, but this one was about decision making and scouting as well. If I had scouted his army position better, I would have known that he was coming to attack my expansion. I was sending my units in the exact opposite spot.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Look at the minimap and the army positions.
As soon as I saw him, I rushed back and had no time to prepare a good flank, so he stormed excellently and killed my army easily.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Beautiful storms on a badly positioned army.
These are situations where a queen with parasite could come in handy for me(read the queen thread in strategy forum).

Game 3: ZvP
This guy was good. Even though I exploited his FE placement and had a good advantage, he still beat me quite easily.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Going around his cannons to kill probes
Everytime I looked away from my base, I came back to find all my drones destroyed! I thought I had killed the 3 dark templars that he dropped into my base, but then he hid all 3 and all of them in total got more than 40 kills I think. It was crazy. This was one of my last games so I wasn't playing very well and even losing all my drones I still had tons of surplus, but this guy was good at multitasking and I kept not killing the DTs in my base. Anytime we got into a battle or something, DTs would pop all my drones.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
The dark templars that started it all
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


Overall I'm disappointed at myself for my performance but I know I can do better, I just need more practice. Of course I still need much help on ZvT, so I really need a tutor/trainer for that and if anyone is out there that's willing please tell me PM me if you want replays or something -_- I think I can get C this season, right now I'm about 3500 so as long as I can keep about 50% win record I think it's C for me


***
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
February 10 2008 21:56 GMT
#2
7pool is gooooot on tau cross
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
February 10 2008 21:58 GMT
#3
On February 11 2008 06:56 Day[9] wrote:
7pool is gooooot on tau cross

o rly? I hate tau cross -_- I thought the rush distances were too long to have a nice rush (especially when they wall with supply depot)
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
February 10 2008 22:16 GMT
#4
11 losses in a row is pretty bad but even worse is playing a 42 minute PvZ at B level on Python and winning for +100.. only to play the next game on python and losing (-100), therefore making the 42 minute game completely worthless.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 10 2008 22:20 GMT
#5
On February 11 2008 07:16 BalloonFight wrote:
11 losses in a row is pretty bad but even worse is playing a 42 minute PvZ at B level on Python and winning for +100.. only to play the next game on python and losing (-100), therefore making the 42 minute game completely worthless.


Unless you play to get better, or to actually have some fun.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 10 2008 23:20 GMT
#6
On February 11 2008 06:56 Day[9] wrote:
7pool is gooooot on tau cross

Fuck you and your kind, making me scout before nexus, stumbling over my ass to get a forge up ;_;
Peace~
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
February 10 2008 23:35 GMT
#7
Who is that SCC-Toss fag that is on your friends list?
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3337 Posts
February 10 2008 23:37 GMT
#8
haha
김택용 Fighting!
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 11 2008 00:41 GMT
#9
loool yaqoob
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
February 11 2008 01:42 GMT
#10
I'm a C- Terran, if you wanna play. (On battle.net to practice)

Goodluck with your Iccup adventures.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
February 11 2008 04:52 GMT
#11
On February 11 2008 06:56 Day[9] wrote:
7pool is gooooot on tau cross


You can 12 hatch 11 pool -> with your 8th or 9th drone go to the choke, than 10th drone + ovy head towards choke.

Use those two and the ovy on hold to keep probe from placing pylon there.

send a 3rd probe to 12 hatch - move through the other two using the minerals.

Just watch for cannons behind the minerals at the actual expo, and you should be fine to head into a 3 hatch / 4 hatch build

I've seen you in the C channel btw !
Trutacz Practice Discord - https://discord.gg/PWF7Pv
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
February 11 2008 04:56 GMT
#12
Well, I do use the hold pos with overlord to stop pylon placement, but I put it there at 12 supply and sometimes they pylon it before that. Generally I don't care too much though, as I have 100% win against that so far on iCCup.
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 11 2008 05:45 GMT
#13
On ICCUP I'm always paranoid about cheese and 12pool a lot, and I never get cheesed anymore so I'm always behind
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
February 11 2008 05:55 GMT
#14
On February 11 2008 06:49 Superiorwolf wrote:
Game 3: ZvP
This guy was good. Even though I exploited his FE placement and had a good advantage, he still beat me quite easily.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Going around his cannons to kill probes
Everytime I looked away from my base, I came back to find all my drones destroyed! I thought I had killed the 3 dark templars that he dropped into my base, but then he hid all 3 and all of them in total got more than 40 kills I think. It was crazy. This was one of my last games so I wasn't playing very well and even losing all my drones I still had tons of surplus, but this guy was good at multitasking and I kept not killing the DTs in my base. (P)Anytime we got into a battle or something, DTs would pop all my drones.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
The dark templars that started it all
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]



Sorry, that just screamed out to me.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 212
ProTech117
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26889
Horang2 1489
Shuttle 1314
actioN 1235
Hyuk 873
Stork 592
BeSt 467
Larva 413
Mini 341
firebathero 282
[ Show more ]
Soma 270
ZerO 209
Dewaltoss 151
Leta 134
Pusan 116
PianO 109
Soulkey 93
Killer 93
JulyZerg 53
Backho 49
Barracks 47
ggaemo 45
Shinee 35
Mong 34
Aegong 34
EffOrt 31
Yoon 31
Noble 20
soO 18
zelot 13
Sacsri 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
SilentControl 8
Shine 8
Terrorterran 8
yabsab 7
Dota 2
XcaliburYe212
NeuroSwarm86
League of Legends
JimRising 373
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1731
Other Games
ceh9553
Fuzer 193
Mew2King109
KnowMe83
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick744
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1578
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 14m
StarCraft2.fi
6h 14m
PiGosaur Monday
14h 14m
Wardi Open
1d 1h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-28
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.