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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 22:17:43
February 10 2008 21:49 GMT
#1
Finally, I can continue my blog after the sports tryouts! Currently I'm 30-24, and I got to C- as a 20-9. I am really bordering on the C- level, but mainly it's because yesterday I was playing absolutely HORRENDOUSLY! I lost 11 games and only won 3. Every single time I played a game my speed went down, I had less morale and my mechanics/play just overall decreased the more I lost. So I decided to quit there and then play today. Today I'm doing much much better. I don't know if yesterday I was having a bad day or because it was late that there were better players on. Here's 6 games I've chosen, 3 I lost and 3 I won. I chose the 3 I won because it's extremely annoying when ZvP on Tau Cross they block the natural, but generally they feel they are safe and are either too nooby/didn't scout or something and you can take advantage of their holes in the gameplay.

I feel that the three games I lost were mainly due to decision making problems, mechanics problems and multitasking. I starting slowing down. In one game, I didn't scout properly and went the wrong way while he came to rape my expansions. Then I rushed back and had the worst flank ever, and he had excellent storms due to my mistake. Another game I kept getting too greedy and lost my huge advantage. My ZvT must get improved if I want to get C, I always get a huge advantage and lose it later in the game.

WINS:
Game 1: ZvP
This game my opponent did the block, and left his probe inside. His probe made some cannons and 2 gates, so he was able to pressure me, but it wasn't too hard to fend off. He did do a nice job splitting up his army to get my drones and sunken, fortunately for me he didn't get any drones and only managed to kill my sunken.
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Zealots were split to kill my drones
This whole time I had been researching drop and the hydralisk upgrades, and I broke out of the pylon block. From there I slow dropped over the wall and targetted + destroyed his main nexus, as well as a few reavers that had just come out.
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Focusing on the main nexus
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Poor reaver
Then I went behind his minerals where it was unprotected, sniped his probes and it was GG.
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Game 2: ZvP
This game my opponent doesn't actually even use the pylon block, he cancels it! I cancelled my hatchery and made a proxy hatchery (lol) inside his base.
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Proxy hatch LOL
This is a great move if you want to humiliate someone. I think it'd work better if they wasted minerals on their pylon block with cannons, but still, I added some sunkens and took out his main nexus, then proceeded to go for upgraded hydras to take out the rest of his base.
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Game 3: ZvP
Again, the pylon block. I take a secret expansion and do the hydra/drop tech again. He pressures with 2 zealots and
I only have 4 lings, so I lose a few drones as he brings more. He almost takes out one of my hatcheries but I saved it just in time.
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I have a slight suspicion this guy was hacking, because all of a sudden for no reason he sent 12 zealots at my secret expansion.
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Why did he randomnly send these zealots here -_-
I kept dropping, preventing him from expanding. He killed my first drop, but then I did a bigger drop and he got weaker and weaker until I killed his main nexus and destroyed the rest of his army.
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For the Swarm!!!


LOSSES
Game 1: ZvP
The guy does a 6 gate speedzeal +1 build.
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Wow, 5 more gates?!
I thought I had adequately prepared for it with 2.5 ctrl groups of lings and 3 lurkers, but he came with his +1 about 20 seconds earlier than mine, dominated my lings and ran past my lurkers.
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Game 2: ZvP
This is a very good look at my bad decision making. All three of these games I had very bad macro in cases where I have much better macro, but this one was about decision making and scouting as well. If I had scouted his army position better, I would have known that he was coming to attack my expansion. I was sending my units in the exact opposite spot.
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Look at the minimap and the army positions.
As soon as I saw him, I rushed back and had no time to prepare a good flank, so he stormed excellently and killed my army easily.
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Beautiful storms on a badly positioned army.
These are situations where a queen with parasite could come in handy for me(read the queen thread in strategy forum).

Game 3: ZvP
This guy was good. Even though I exploited his FE placement and had a good advantage, he still beat me quite easily.
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Going around his cannons to kill probes
Everytime I looked away from my base, I came back to find all my drones destroyed! I thought I had killed the 3 dark templars that he dropped into my base, but then he hid all 3 and all of them in total got more than 40 kills I think. It was crazy. This was one of my last games so I wasn't playing very well and even losing all my drones I still had tons of surplus, but this guy was good at multitasking and I kept not killing the DTs in my base. Anytime we got into a battle or something, DTs would pop all my drones.
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The dark templars that started it all
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Overall I'm disappointed at myself for my performance but I know I can do better, I just need more practice. Of course I still need much help on ZvT, so I really need a tutor/trainer for that and if anyone is out there that's willing please tell me PM me if you want replays or something -_- I think I can get C this season, right now I'm about 3500 so as long as I can keep about 50% win record I think it's C for me


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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
February 10 2008 21:56 GMT
#2
7pool is gooooot on tau cross
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
February 10 2008 21:58 GMT
#3
On February 11 2008 06:56 Day[9] wrote:
7pool is gooooot on tau cross

o rly? I hate tau cross -_- I thought the rush distances were too long to have a nice rush (especially when they wall with supply depot)
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BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
February 10 2008 22:16 GMT
#4
11 losses in a row is pretty bad but even worse is playing a 42 minute PvZ at B level on Python and winning for +100.. only to play the next game on python and losing (-100), therefore making the 42 minute game completely worthless.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 10 2008 22:20 GMT
#5
On February 11 2008 07:16 BalloonFight wrote:
11 losses in a row is pretty bad but even worse is playing a 42 minute PvZ at B level on Python and winning for +100.. only to play the next game on python and losing (-100), therefore making the 42 minute game completely worthless.


Unless you play to get better, or to actually have some fun.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 10 2008 23:20 GMT
#6
On February 11 2008 06:56 Day[9] wrote:
7pool is gooooot on tau cross

Fuck you and your kind, making me scout before nexus, stumbling over my ass to get a forge up ;_;
Peace~
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
February 10 2008 23:35 GMT
#7
Who is that SCC-Toss fag that is on your friends list?
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3335 Posts
February 10 2008 23:37 GMT
#8
haha
김택용 Fighting!
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 11 2008 00:41 GMT
#9
loool yaqoob
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
February 11 2008 01:42 GMT
#10
I'm a C- Terran, if you wanna play. (On battle.net to practice)

Goodluck with your Iccup adventures.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
February 11 2008 04:52 GMT
#11
On February 11 2008 06:56 Day[9] wrote:
7pool is gooooot on tau cross


You can 12 hatch 11 pool -> with your 8th or 9th drone go to the choke, than 10th drone + ovy head towards choke.

Use those two and the ovy on hold to keep probe from placing pylon there.

send a 3rd probe to 12 hatch - move through the other two using the minerals.

Just watch for cannons behind the minerals at the actual expo, and you should be fine to head into a 3 hatch / 4 hatch build

I've seen you in the C channel btw !
Trutacz Practice Discord - https://discord.gg/PWF7Pv
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
February 11 2008 04:56 GMT
#12
Well, I do use the hold pos with overlord to stop pylon placement, but I put it there at 12 supply and sometimes they pylon it before that. Generally I don't care too much though, as I have 100% win against that so far on iCCup.
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 11 2008 05:45 GMT
#13
On ICCUP I'm always paranoid about cheese and 12pool a lot, and I never get cheesed anymore so I'm always behind
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
February 11 2008 05:55 GMT
#14
On February 11 2008 06:49 Superiorwolf wrote:
Game 3: ZvP
This guy was good. Even though I exploited his FE placement and had a good advantage, he still beat me quite easily.
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Going around his cannons to kill probes
Everytime I looked away from my base, I came back to find all my drones destroyed! I thought I had killed the 3 dark templars that he dropped into my base, but then he hid all 3 and all of them in total got more than 40 kills I think. It was crazy. This was one of my last games so I wasn't playing very well and even losing all my drones I still had tons of surplus, but this guy was good at multitasking and I kept not killing the DTs in my base. (P)Anytime we got into a battle or something, DTs would pop all my drones.
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The dark templars that started it all
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Sorry, that just screamed out to me.
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