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Do you think Bisu can come back?
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MenzieK
United States123 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5501 Posts
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
- Mind, MSL finals: One of Bisu's usual strengths in Starleague matches is his preparation/mindgames. Mind being an unknown at the time gives Bisu very little material to work with, removing a key element of his play. Combined with one build order loss and Bisu looking like he didn't take Mind seriously enough, he drops the series. Definitely he screwed up here, but this really isn't a catastrophic loss. - Savior, OSL Ro8: Lost to a brilliantly innovative build on Blue Storm, staged a ridiculous comeback in game 2, and dominated game 3. Bisu still looks awesome here. - Stork, OSL semis: Gets pretty badly dominated at PvP. Given that he's somewhat sick at the time, against a rival who's out for Bisu's blood, and the slightly randomish nature of PvP, I don't see this as the end of the world for Bisu by any means. - Upmagic, OSL 3rd place: Looked a little shaky but won the series while still sick. He was definitely out of form to an extent here, but how much of that was a result of his illness? Hard to say. - MSL Ro32: He lost to Jaedong. Given that Jaedong is currently the best player in the world and strongest at every ZvX matchup, I can't see how this is that huge a deal. Moreover his early game harassment was classic Bisu, frying Jaedong's Drones left and right. I really can't figure out how Jaedong came back, and from what I've read a lot of other people can't either. Any other zerg in the world probably would have lost that game quite badly. Against Yarnc, he basically lost because he screwed up and failed to watch his shuttle for 2 seconds, resulting in it suiciding into hydras with 2 Reavers and subsequently dying to a hydra allin. I'm pretty confident if he hadn't lost those reavers, Yarnc couldn't have done nearly as effective of an allin and Bisu would have had 2 more Reavers to defend it, so he could have held easily. That really just looks like a one time screwup costing a game, and in a Bo3 I think he would have mangled Yarnc. Basically I haven't seen anything yet to suggest to me that Bisu has had a huge drop in his play. At this point I fully expect him to qualify from his OSL group and wouldn't be surprised if he 3-0'd it. He's definitely not the best player in the world anymore, but that has more to do with Jaedong's play than Bisu's in my opinion. If he doesn't do well this OSL I'll have to reconsider, but right now Jaedong and Stork are the only people I would consider favorites against Bisu, and not by a lot. | ||
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MenzieK
United States123 Posts
Ok yeah he has played superb lately, but I want him to actaully win something and then we can safely assume that he is. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 14 2008 12:46 MenzieK wrote: An OSL isnt enough?Ok yeah he has played superb lately, but I want him to actaully win something and then we can safely assume that he is. | ||
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
On January 14 2008 12:46 MenzieK wrote: Ok yeah he has played superb lately, but I want him to actaully win something and then we can safely assume that he is. Win something, like the OSL maybe?  He was already acknowledged as the best ZvT and ZvZ in the world before he won the OSL. After watching his games against Stork and Bisu, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to put him on best ZvP and best overall. | ||
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MenzieK
United States123 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 14 2008 13:19 MenzieK wrote: what? July? Anytime? Boxer? Xellos? Nal_ra? Kingdom? Reach? ...No he has to win an MSL or another OSL, because we all know what happened to players in the past whom only won 1 OSL before as their first starleague win. | ||
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MenzieK
United States123 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
"bonjwa streak"? what is this? and also, i guess OSL royal roader plus rookie of the year isn't enough for jaedong? OK, i guess you're right. he hasn't accomplished anything. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 14 2008 13:46 MenzieK wrote: mmm MVP 2006? Fresh?My point was that in the post, they're lots of fresh strong players who won an OSL got really far but failed win any more major titles. The only player i can name that failed after winning an OSL title was sync, but he still posted OSL appearances for a long time | ||
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MenzieK
United States123 Posts
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
 Jaedong,  Stork and Bisu. <(oo;;?Or we could suddenly ninja  BoxeR into a macro machine.. maybe o.O? He's got some kick ass TvT these days.. ~ | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
Sorry to say almost no other toss beside Bisu can dominate a zerg or at least play PvZ in a way that doesn't look imbalanced for the toss. And as long as no other protoss user can truly match zergs and not win now and then and with cannon rushes or whatever no other toss will gain my respect like Bisu has. | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On January 14 2008 15:18 Macavenger wrote: MenzieK, I'm really curious who you think is the best player in the world currently, if not Jaedong? Just ignore him, he is borderline retarded. | ||
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Play
Australia608 Posts
did he ever go anywhere?? he lost a few games, big deal. He is bisu, hes not going anywhere. | ||
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MenzieK
United States123 Posts
On January 14 2008 21:08 fanatacist wrote: Just ignore him, he is borderline retarded. WTF was that attack for? I never said anything to you or anything to anyone else. I have never really made any stupid retarded posts, that was completely uncalled for. I don't think there really is a dominant player yet, and I'm quite skeptical of Jaedong. | ||
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