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EternaLEnVy Post DotA Trading Journey

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EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-15 16:20:41
September 11 2023 22:39 GMT
#1
Originally was gonna post on twitter but I need to be verified to post this length and I couldn't purchase the verification because I changed my DP to IU its gg.

Post DotA Mini Blog:

The last 4 months were some of the hardest in my life, it honestly reminded me of my time in University b4 I dropped out. It felt like I had no direction, and time and time again when I discovered hope, I would be proven wrong. There is no BSJ or Purge in this space because trading is a zero sum game where you indiscriminately compete against top pros and bots who are honestly fucking cheating. And why would you fully teach your competitors? The content helped a lot but it mostly just covered the basics, and the psychology. Trading isn’t like school or gaming, you can’t watch replays, chain queue, or just turn the next page in the textbook. It’s a learning process where you don’t know where to start, what is next, and if your efforts will lead to anything. Perhaps more similar to entrepreneurship or building a puzzle.


The process was very tiring, boring, and frustrating. I would catch myself slow, lazy, and bored and then I would be FURIOUS. I consider myself a “tryhard” and it’s rare to find a day where I can thankful for my efforts. I realized it’s a whole other game to work hard when you doubt the things you learn as irrelevant or red herrings. When I first started I would have to pause a youtube video three times just to google/chatgpt three terms in a sentence. Sign a 20 page form for my broker, and fumbling around in a chart program, and waiting like a month for the IRS to even trade with real money. You can spend days endlessly gathering data, charts, and flipping through them trying to find patterns that you never use. I remember being happy that I finally found two patterns back in my first two months to trade and I never traded them again.

My first 6 weeks trading w/ real money consisted of me endlessly gathering hope and then getting fucked in the market. I literally lost money basically everyday and my losses were much greater than my wins. After some time in this endless cycle of losing it starts to get to you. You start questioning life: “how long is this gonna take?” “am I really cut out for this?” “what do I do now?” “is any idea I come up with even gonna work?” “maybe everyone else was right, and “maybe I should get a job.”


A huge blow to my ego. But luckily my ego is way too HUGE. I knew I wasn’t the type of person who would give up. So I shall continue through the endless doubt.

Around week 3 of my trading while going through @brianleetrades discord group. There was a member that really stuck out to me. To this day him and fluff are the only ones I’ve messaged first in trading. That guy really simplified trading for me. I don’t think I would have progressed this much without him. (not sure if I can include his name but thank you so much!)

Now after 5 weeks I realized that there was a specific pattern that was working. I started focusing on that pattern. Funny thing is I started losing on that pattern too. But after fine tuning it, I became positive while only trading that pattern.


Half way through week 6 I decided to only trade that pattern. That half was positive. Everyday I would find ways to improve on how to trade that pattern and week 7 was positive as well.


After backtesting a new setup for week 8 I decided to man up and trade two setups. I was positive on both setups for week 8. I'm now green on 5 of my last 6 days.

Naive as I may be, I honestly feel like I'm going to make it. I know there are endless stories of failing traders. And I might never know if I will one day blow up my account. But I don't care. I believe that things will work out for me in the end however my story plays out.

Things have always been like this for me, I’ve always been on the other side. The side that haters think is impossible. From when I refused to leave my guidance counselor’s office till he swapped my special ed courses to university level (and getting the highest marks in the school). From dropping out of University to become a professional gamer. From people telling me it’s wrong to do OMAD Keto and that I’m basically killing myself (lost 60 lbs from 230, been doing it for 7 years). And now to day trading. Sometimes the correct path to take requires courage.

Funny thing is that people are always arrogantly telling me I’m wrong based on some bullshit they have never experienced for themselves; that they never did any due diligence on. I KNOW that only the top 1% will make money, I KNOW that there is luck involved, I KNOW that it's risky. You're not that smart. And I KNOW I'm gonna make it. I’m gonna be so fucking rich. Fuck you haters.

I have a lot more I could talk about but I’m really bad at typing and I should get back to work. I don’t even know if anyone wants to read this too. As I am writing this I feel more blessed than I have ever felt about everything in my life.

Thank you @brianleetrades for helping me get started and for answering my newb ass questions tirelessly and for caring for your community in general, check out his discord. Thanks to @braxlikesdota as well. Big thanks my friend the beast from Brian’s discord lol. I’ll edit in his name if he doesn't mind.

"There’s no revenge you can inflict on a hater that’s worse than their own life." - Leila Hormozi

****
Hell in my head
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
September 12 2023 00:25 GMT
#2
good luck dude. do you have any specific goals in mind?
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
September 12 2023 02:32 GMT
#3
reminds me of the lightning striking twice in the same place scenario
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
September 12 2023 03:04 GMT
#4
Best of luck
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
September 12 2023 04:57 GMT
#5
I remember seeing your first blog post all those years ago. All I'll say is good luck!
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
September 12 2023 05:31 GMT
#6
One time, very very long ago when you wanted to be a dota pro player, I asked you a question about how to be a better player when I had no one to ask up to. I truncated a lot, because you game me an amazingly detailed response. But I appreciated it then and I appreciate it now.

0) Play with people around your skill level
1) Don't memorize, but at least understand EVERYTHING about characters
2) Learn Juke Spots
3) Learn to Buy items
4) Stamp Collecting
Make sure you do all the little things, hotkey your tower invulerable thing, hotkey chicken, hero, and summons. Make sure your setup is right, if not change it and get use to it
5) Don't forget/write down tricks that you find. For example, if you turn on/off a basilius ring next to neutral creeps, it will agro them. Almost no one knows this.
6) Understand which heroes are good and which are bad! It's a waste of time to play -random and play w/e hero u get.
7) Ward spots.
8) Focus! and "team work". Try to drop flame wars as fast as possible. If you want to get good, it is more important to play to win, than play by your pride.
9) Positioning and Greed. POSITION YOURSELF during fights.
10) How to Learn a Hero
Copy Skill Build from a pro player (through replays), copy their item build, etc. Be sure to watch a few replays or at least briefly scan it on 4x/8x and check how they farm, when they gank, when they run, when they go in, etc etc etc before you blindly play the hero. When you finally learn something properly, then you can be innovative, but first you must just copy shit and understand why pros do the things they do.

Your good advice to cap it off....
Now if any of this sounds kinda iffy to you, watch REPLAYS. The best way to get better is to have a mind set, a goal, a vision that you want to achieve. If you have no idea what aspects to improve on, and more importantly how to improve it, you should figure that out before you play. The best way to do that is through replays!


I want to add to what you've said in the past. As I've been through my own life in the years since you smashed the dota scene.

Fuck it, you're smart as shit. If you're gonna be real good then do it, if you're not then find something you will be good at. It seems like you found a groove! Hell yea. What excites and motivates you is what you thrive in. Keep chasing that.

Good luck my friend.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
sccaefeerf
Profile Joined September 2023
3 Posts
September 12 2023 05:41 GMT
#7
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
September 12 2023 06:38 GMT
#8
Mad props to your crazy determination and never backing down in the face of adversity. I miss you in the Dota scene but I'm looking forward to your personality and tryhardness shaking up Wall Street.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-12 07:59:53
September 12 2023 07:52 GMT
#9
i belive in you mate.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Ephemerality
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
September 12 2023 16:26 GMT
#10
GL HF. Careful trading only one pattern, diversify, only invest what you can lose, etc., etc.! Also at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the pattern does work some bot/data scraper picks up on it, and then well GG.
FIGHT APATHY... or don't
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 12 2023 18:35 GMT
#11
are you still simping for andrew tate ?
Going down the dumbass pipeline best of luck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
September 12 2023 20:10 GMT
#12
On September 12 2023 13:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
I remember seeing your first blog post all those years ago. All I'll say is good luck!

For anyone not in the know. https://tl.net/forum/dota-2-general/454226-going-on-leave-from-university-to-play-dota-2

life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
September 13 2023 06:26 GMT
#13
This man never gives up. An inspiration to us all
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
September 13 2023 06:29 GMT
#14
I remember the original blog post. I also remember when there was some other guy posting about quitting school to play dota, and saying how EternalEnVy was his idol. But then Envy told him he was hopeless.

Crazy how big EE got. I also thought EE made it big as a dota pro though, why go into trading?
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11832 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-17 14:42:55
September 17 2023 14:41 GMT
#15
On September 13 2023 15:29 Urth wrote:
I remember the original blog post. I also remember when there was some other guy posting about quitting school to play dota, and saying how EternalEnVy was his idol. But then Envy told him he was hopeless.

Crazy how big EE got. I also thought EE made it big as a dota pro though, why go into trading?


EE has not been relevant in top Dota for a few years, he has tried multiple times to get back into it. He couldn't reach the level he wanted/needed to and basically ended up moving on to a new challenge.

He made enough money to stick around Dota if he wanted to but moving on is probably a good career move.
toqeer
Profile Joined September 2023
1 Post
September 18 2023 11:57 GMT
#16
Good informational blog by you, keep it up
Ephemerality
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
October 31 2023 03:59 GMT
#17
Any updates? I'm curious lol
FIGHT APATHY... or don't
nottaweeb
Profile Joined November 2023
1 Post
November 26 2023 03:33 GMT
#18
gl ee-sama
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