Chile got tired - Page 2

On October 25 2019 06:14 XenOsky wrote:
They just found a torture center at Baquedano Station in Santiago...

On October 25 2019 03:44 XenOsky wrote:
oh by the way, my friends and i, are organizing a fútbol match in a public court at night during the curfiew

This one is actually huge, because a group of private companies are in charge of all the pensions in Chile so you have no option but to give your money to them. The problem with this is that old people have no access to their money after they retire, they cant take a single dime from his OWN MONEY and the pension company gives them a % of their money montly, this is known to be a robbery that got installed during Pinochets dictatorship and was implemented by Sebastian Piñeras brother, so... kinda sus isnt it¿.

On October 26 2019 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are almost all of you actually mhm...??
"yes it is nice of you to burn down shit and that is totally a normal way of hanlding a protest."

Good job TL. " Keep fighting ppl". "yes yes"

I am interested though, what is a better form on pension than the one XenOsky described?


lmk if there is a pension system anywhere that doesnt work like this. (i am not talking about voluntary stuff ppl can put their money into, but governmental ones). I would be interested in hearing more, since i have no knowledge about other kind of systems in general.

Seems like Pinochet implemented this in all world, shit...
even in Finland

On October 28 2019 21:00 GoTuNk! wrote:
OP presented an extremely leftist point of view, coupled with made up numbers.

The amount of dead so far is 20, maybe a few more, 10 who died on fire in riots the first day. Almost all subway stations, hundreds of supermarkets and pharmacies were looted that day. THIS is why the military was called upon; the situation is a lot more stable now, causing the president to withdraw the military, which occured with nothing to note. This is not a military coup.

I'm sure some cases where real undue violence was used by the police or military will surface, those people will be prosecuted accordingly. However left wing propaganda is rampant in social media with made up dead (like xenosky) and tortured; do not fall for this.

For example, OP posted a few posts up a made up torture center; the place was researched the same day and found empty. Here is the official statement by the judicial department.

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This is a political crisis, not an economical yet. Macro economical numbers are there for anyone to see. Chile has lot of problems that can be improved like any other country, but it is surely top3 place to live in latin america.

The protests are still massive and ongoing, the unfolding of this is yet unkown.

We are a functioning democracy, despite the fringe leftist group trying to turn the protests into a coup against the democratically elected president trough the joke of "constituent assemblies" run by themselves to pretend to represent the people.

On October 28 2019 21:24 opisska wrote:


I don't honestly have enough insight to judge where is the truth in the reporting on the riots and you may as well be right. Sadly, in this day and age, despite having seemingly easy access to information, accessing reliable information is as difficult as ever.

But you saying how great the economy is and that Chile is a great place to live is rightist propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

Just the fact that Chile has 20% R/P ratio shows over 11 how bad the situation is for poor people. That's 3 times that of the Czech Republic, more than double that of Germany etc.. Yes, it's comparable to surrounding countries (except for the mysteriously advanced nation of Uruguay) and it's better than Brazil, but it's still a bad sign.

Even living in the country, it may be hard to see the depth of the issues, if you spend your time within the relatively well-off part of the society. 70% of chileans earn less than USD 825 a week and last time i was there, stuff was quite expensive, especially in big cities.

The main thing many people miss, especially those benefiting from capitalist systems, is that there is a lot of poverty and economical suffering even in countries that are superficially prosperous. Hell I wouldn't blame poor people in the US if they banded together and starting rioting, considering the terrible situation of the bottom echelons of economy there, so there is really no wonder this is happening in Chile.

On October 28 2019 22:13 opisska wrote:
I think this is a fallacy, especially in today's connected world, there are many places where countries with vastly different standards of living and societal structures neighbor each other. Chile also has insane natural resource and thus is somewhat predestined to lead the pack.

But I mean you no foul, I think you are entitled to your view in a democratic system, I just think you should not be surprised at how frustrated some Chileans are and I wanted to point out that your positions are as subjective, as those of the other side - as you nicely pointed out, you can really find arguments for different views just based on which comparisons you chose. We could smack each other down with plots all they long, I agree that doesn't have much of a point to do.

I also agree that Argentina is worse in almost anything we can imagine to plot and according to everything I hear from there (as we do have an observatory there and thus a lot of local contacts), it is on the way for possible even a bigger shit-fan intercept. It is actually of a big concern and one of the major reasons Argentina was not chosen for the next big project we are preparing - it went to Chile instead, which may now seem funny, but the riots will pass and Chile we still be a safer place for foreign investment.

On October 29 2019 05:09 sneakyfox wrote:
Now let's all look at the peaceful and friendly police maintaining law and order in the streets: https://www.facebook.com/isabelandrea.olivaresconcha/posts/10218165452480951