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Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
July 20 2017 00:38 GMT
#1
For two years i've worked in IT as tech support. It was my first real job (first paid job) there were many ups and some downs to the place, but I liked working there. Now it's about to be over. It feels very weird. I've always been used to knowing what I'll be doing throughout the year. Never having to really think forwards. Until now. August 1st I'll no longer be considered as a working citizen. I still haven't landed a job and i'm still looking at all my options.

I want to keep working in IT. However, the job market kinda sucks and my country suffers with hightened unemployment amongst people in their 20's (I'm 20) It's hard to land anything useful I feel. Expectations are high and usually you have to compete with many others for all jobs.

Everything is a race. Everything job related is a struggle till you land one that is. I don't like this discomfort of not knowing what I'm gonna be doing for a living. I'm not worried for my future though. I got enough savings and I have things under control so to speak, but this situation kinda sucks. I know I wont land a job by the end of the month. So I look toward landing something by September at least.

I don't know TL. School taught me many things, but not how to convince someone that I'm the right for their workplace.






Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
CrymeaTerran
Profile Joined May 2017
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-20 07:37:58
July 20 2017 07:37 GMT
#2
With charm and self-confidence, just love yourself and be happy with you and your skillz. Charisma is important it is like a illusion from a wizard to delude the other person. Perform something and feel good, hello I'm a narcisstic person and I know how to trick other people, every new person I meet just loves me´.
Sziky = Love
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 20 2017 07:55 GMT
#3
This is just one unfortunate reality of life that no one likes but we all have to deal with. Job seeking sucks, especially if you're doing it to be employed rather than to shop around to see if any better opportunities present themselves.

It sounds like you have things under control, so it doesn't sound like anything special needs to be done. Just know that all of us hate this thing, and that once things work out you will feel a lot better.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-20 09:11:09
July 20 2017 08:56 GMT
#4
Just play sherlock holmes when you are preparing for a job interview answering a job offer or doing a "spontaneous application".

Know what to say, have all the answers ready etc.. a human resource recruiter is a detective, they want to save their job too.

Don't trick them on what you are, be fair and yet cunning.

If you want the job too much, you might come off bad. If you don't seem to care or your demeanor seems to indicate that you feel the position you could fill in their company is beneath you, also not so good.

You must however relieve their worries, are you a lazy ass or lying about what your qualifications are.. etc.
So be confident in what you can bring to this company and showcase how good you are, how much you want to learn .. whatever they seem to be wanting out of you in this interview.

A friend of mine used to sell photocopiers (when those were still a thing) and over 10 years he said that if he went to 15 appointments to sell, his results were shit, and then when he "prepped" 2 or 3 he almost always sold them.
The truth is that all of this "seduction" game is a small part that is vital.

i say small because in your case (type of job) it is just a passage, you will be "monitored/managed" from then on, but you will be in ; or you will never hear about that company again and that will have been a small involvement

You will hit or you will miss, and the more "hiring" / "almost hiring stories" you will have done the more you will discover who you are, and what you must do to hit more than miss.

Future is an adventure, nothing to be afraid of!
"not enough rights"
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 20 2017 09:50 GMT
#5
Know yourself, be honest and be yourself. That's all, really. You don't need anything more than that. Common sense, politeness etc are a given. Ah, and dress appropriately.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 20 2017 12:17 GMT
#6
If you can convert the attitude you have now with how much you want to be working in IT and how much passion you have for it (this is the way i seem to read it anyway) surely it is only a matter of time before you get a job. Keep applying to everything you want to do and when you get an interview make sure you try to show how much you want to work and that your IT passion is what you want to do etc etc.

Good luck im sure you will be able to get a job again soon!
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Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
July 20 2017 13:54 GMT
#7
Life is yours to make it. Stop seeing life as being against you. Your attitude is what makes getting a job hard
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
July 20 2017 18:17 GMT
#8
Prepare your interviews well and you'll get an offer soon enough. A little practical tip: prepare questions you have for the employer beforehand, write them down on a notebook and take the notebook and a pen with you to the interview. It shows you've prepared and are interested in the company / job as well. It's probably the best tip I got.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 20 2017 18:25 GMT
#9
On July 21 2017 03:17 RvB wrote:
Prepare your interviews well and you'll get an offer soon enough. A little practical tip: prepare questions you have for the employer beforehand, write them down on a notebook and take the notebook and a pen with you to the interview. It shows you've prepared and are interested in the company / job as well. It's probably the best tip I got.

I personally prefer a pocket-sized composition notebook. It's more convenient to carry around and there's always notes that need to be taken.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 20 2017 19:55 GMT
#10
I don't know TL. School taught me many things, but not how to convince someone that I'm the right for their workplace.


Convince yourself that what you want are applying for is the right thing for you. That you want to do this. It's what has worked for me so far. Because I knew I wanted them and I could show it when they asked me.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
July 21 2017 09:17 GMT
#11
Working sucks. Most people get employed because of their personal connections rather than necessarily merits, etc. This of course is different depending on sector and whatnot, but it's basically true. Don't blame yourself, the system is messed up. With that said once you've actually landed the interview people here give pretty good advice.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
July 21 2017 21:40 GMT
#12
Oh dayum mate, classic IT is dead. Spin of to programming or security.
oh, hai
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
July 21 2017 22:13 GMT
#13
Just wanted to say thanks for all the replies and tips. I'll keep all your advices in mind.
Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17880 Posts
July 22 2017 01:21 GMT
#14
On July 21 2017 18:17 Heartland wrote:
Working sucks. Most people get employed because of their personal connections rather than necessarily merits, etc. This of course is different depending on sector and whatnot, but it's basically true. Don't blame yourself, the system is messed up. With that said once you've actually landed the interview people here give pretty good advice.

i find its a strong mix of the 2. networking is critically important. start networking more.

i'm a coder. I choose to primarily socialize with top notch PROJECT MANAGERS. And I know enough about project management to get any good project manager talking about how great they are... opens doors every time. Furthermore, I'm able to assess how good they are at project management. If I can tell they are excellent and they love what they do I know more work is always coming their way.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32159 Posts
July 23 2017 13:55 GMT
#15
how does your cv look? if you're really having trouble, there are writing services for that.

but a general rule of thumb is to customize for each job based on how the duties are structured in the posting. don't bury important shit at hte botttom of your resume. remove non-relevant stuff. try to keep to one page (I think this rule doesn't apply as much to CVs in the EU - this might be more American).

if a job posting says we are looking for a b and c, the first 3 bullet points on your cv should be that.

interviews aren't as formulaic, but as long as you keep the above in mind, sell those points, and come armed with questions of your own, you're probably ok
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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-24 19:30:20
July 24 2017 19:30 GMT
#16
If you are working in IT and are jobless, then you are doing it wrong.

Either focus on your education (I assume if you are 20 then may have not completed a bachelor, and presumably not a masters degree) and get a degree in Computer Science or work harder at tailoring your CV and covering letter to the job.

Having a good covering letter that displays your interest (and knowledge of) in the company you're applying to is very helpful. Your cover letter and CV should combine to fulfill everything they asked for in their job description and be easy on the eye.

As for interviews, preparing well is very important.
Look at the job description, think about what kind of skills they are looking for and when they ask you to talk about your previous experience, see how you can make it match the position they are looking to fill. Practice speaking, if you're not used to being interviewed, learn how to talk about yourself and your skills for 5 minutes without lots of 'uh' 'um' and other useless filler stuff. Practice with a person, see what they tell you about your body language, eye contact etc.

You'll land the job you're looking for when you learn how to present yourself.





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