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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 25 2016 07:14 GMT
#41
Why do you even care if they call you? Why do you see "they will call again" as a problem? Owning a phone doesn't mean that you signed your soul away, you can press the red button at ANY moment. You don't owe anyone anything (besides the debts that you legally do owe) - and anyone who tries to convince you otherwise deserves nothing but your contempt. It's really that easy.

On May 21 2016 23:42 Zambrah wrote:
Thank you for being polite to them, :D I've heard some horror stories of people getting REALLY pissed at these kinds of callers because they are, to be fair, pretty annoying when you've already dumped a shit ton of cash into the school and the school is just like, "More plz."


What the hell are you thanking him for? Being polite to unsolicited callers is only encouraging the business. I get quite a lot of phone spam (my number is really easy to get for various reasons) and I usually just yell profanities at them, or just hang up, or just leave the phone lying around for a couple of minutes before they realize they are talking into a wall ... really, whatever I feel like. Because you know, why shouldn't I? They have absolutely no right to a second of my time and what they do is completely impolite. The popular argument "but the people calling are just employees and not evil" is the paramount of bullshit - it is your responsibility what job you take and if you do something that should not be done, you are a part of the problem. Also, by making their life miserable, I am actively hurting the HR market for these positions.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 25 2016 08:35 GMT
#42
Happens to me all the time..Among tenured professors who flat out refused to teach unless it was their horrible textbook, to pumping money into only AAA sports programs, my university NEVER seemingly spent money for the students. I had to stay in a shitty unrenovated dorm for the price of a renovated one because of uni policy, (although the newly reno dorm towers look nice), then i had to deal with university bureaucracy for 4 years.. the only thing that the school legit did for its students was build a new lifestyle center, which was a state of the art 4 floor gym that was absolutely massive.. With a giant pool in the shape of our mascot to put on the front of their orientation brochures.. The new gym, while done out of self interest to attract more californian girls/ guys to our school, genuinely was a good thing for the student body, and people were happy across the board regarding it..

But i guess that one moment of mutual happiness leads me to ask the question, why weren't the library common areas redone??? or the aging business or econ or engineering buildings redone??? there were just a lot of areas that needed money that the bureaucracy ignored in favor of things incoming students care about, which is fine, but it makes me laugh really hard as someone who has graduated when they beg me for money. I might consider it if they actually said "this is for a new library!!" or a new finance program or something, but if it's just an enigmatic "support state school #1412 because you remember those fun times!!" then they can just fuck right off.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
May 25 2016 19:36 GMT
#43
My college did the same thing. They ask for thousand of dollar donations though. Like ridiculous request s. I used to get offended but now when i get mail from them it goes automatically to the trash.

I wouldn't stress about it, seems like a common thing.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
May 30 2016 15:04 GMT
#44
On May 25 2016 16:14 opisska wrote:
Why do you even care if they call you? Why do you see "they will call again" as a problem? Owning a phone doesn't mean that you signed your soul away, you can press the red button at ANY moment. You don't owe anyone anything (besides the debts that you legally do owe) - and anyone who tries to convince you otherwise deserves nothing but your contempt. It's really that easy.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 23:42 Zambrah wrote:
Thank you for being polite to them, :D I've heard some horror stories of people getting REALLY pissed at these kinds of callers because they are, to be fair, pretty annoying when you've already dumped a shit ton of cash into the school and the school is just like, "More plz."


What the hell are you thanking him for? Being polite to unsolicited callers is only encouraging the business. I get quite a lot of phone spam (my number is really easy to get for various reasons) and I usually just yell profanities at them, or just hang up, or just leave the phone lying around for a couple of minutes before they realize they are talking into a wall ... really, whatever I feel like. Because you know, why shouldn't I? They have absolutely no right to a second of my time and what they do is completely impolite. The popular argument "but the people calling are just employees and not evil" is the paramount of bullshit - it is your responsibility what job you take and if you do something that should not be done, you are a part of the problem. Also, by making their life miserable, I am actively hurting the HR market for these positions.


(assuming they're students, my school hires students to do it)

First sentence in my post, lol.

Do you REALLY think that you being a huge dickface to the caller is doing anything? You're just fishing for an excuse to act like an asshole to someone who is only doing their job. Do you like to shout obscenitys at your waiter when your food isn't cooked right too?

I'm amazed that someone can feel like they're taking a moral high ground by actively being an abusive asshole, wow.

What happened to treating people like people? You know that you're actually wasting your own time with your senseless shouting? You could just as easily hang up, and voila, the call has ended. Magical.

Also, maybe you should think about your first part of your post in relation to your second, because wow is there some disconnect happening there.

But hey, I'll tell all of my student friends that need all the work hours they can get that they should starve so that you aren't mildly inconvenienced for small periods of time every once in a while.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 30 2016 15:08 GMT
#45
On May 31 2016 00:04 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 16:14 opisska wrote:
Why do you even care if they call you? Why do you see "they will call again" as a problem? Owning a phone doesn't mean that you signed your soul away, you can press the red button at ANY moment. You don't owe anyone anything (besides the debts that you legally do owe) - and anyone who tries to convince you otherwise deserves nothing but your contempt. It's really that easy.

On May 21 2016 23:42 Zambrah wrote:
Thank you for being polite to them, :D I've heard some horror stories of people getting REALLY pissed at these kinds of callers because they are, to be fair, pretty annoying when you've already dumped a shit ton of cash into the school and the school is just like, "More plz."


What the hell are you thanking him for? Being polite to unsolicited callers is only encouraging the business. I get quite a lot of phone spam (my number is really easy to get for various reasons) and I usually just yell profanities at them, or just hang up, or just leave the phone lying around for a couple of minutes before they realize they are talking into a wall ... really, whatever I feel like. Because you know, why shouldn't I? They have absolutely no right to a second of my time and what they do is completely impolite. The popular argument "but the people calling are just employees and not evil" is the paramount of bullshit - it is your responsibility what job you take and if you do something that should not be done, you are a part of the problem. Also, by making their life miserable, I am actively hurting the HR market for these positions.


(assuming they're students, my school hires students to do it)

First sentence in my post, lol.

Do you REALLY think that you being a huge dickface to the caller is doing anything? You're just fishing for an excuse to act like an asshole to someone who is only doing their job. Do you like to shout obscenitys at your waiter when your food isn't cooked right too?

I'm amazed that someone can feel like they're taking a moral high ground by actively being an abusive asshole, wow.

What happened to treating people like people? You know that you're actually wasting your own time with your senseless shouting? You could just as easily hang up, and voila, the call has ended. Magical.

Also, maybe you should think about your first part of your post in relation to your second, because wow is there some disconnect happening there.

But hey, I'll tell all of my student friends that need all the work hours they can get that they should starve so that you aren't mildly inconvenienced for small periods of time every once in a while.


So in short, your logic is that if I have a company that does something wrong, I can justify it by letting students make money doing the work?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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