• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:24
CEST 23:24
KST 06:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris31Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Aligulac - Europe takes the podium A Eulogy for the Six Pool Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Esports World Cup 2025 WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
ASL20 - worst advertising ever... BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group D [ASL20] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1958 users

I think i now am evil

Blogs > LaNague
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 05 2015 15:42 GMT
#1
I think i crossed the line this month and joined the elusive evil people that ruin the world by hoarding money, killing the enviroment, removing civil rights and all that other stuff that happens every day but noone seems to be actually responsible.

So yesterday i noticed that i am now actively contributing to the evil effort despite having no evil intentions, is this what happens to most people and the actual evil is in the system?
I know many of the super rich also arent actually evil like Bill Gates or the Google founder etc.




So, whats so evil about what i do?


I designed some systems for a bigger company that is testing their product for functionality, uneducated workers manually insert the product and then the electronics and mechanics get tested.
They have a shitty work, no sitting, constantly switching products and a boring screen full of techical measurrements they dont understand.
Now I upgrade the software because its good money and also i dont want lose future contracts by annoying them.
The update?

Track statisics about breaks and speed and DISPLAY A LIVE PERFORMANCE GRAPH ON THEIR WORKSTATION.
Yeah, the workers will now stare at a graph that tracks their speed and is evaluating them every second of their miserable day.

**
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 05 2015 15:58 GMT
#2
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
October 05 2015 16:09 GMT
#3
--- Nuked ---
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 05 2015 16:18 GMT
#4
did you make a girl cry? did you all kill a beloved team during their very last team league match? did you deny a dream finals in las vegas while forcing your opponent to scream "imba imba imba" in agony? did you use an abominable composition to win a title? did you immediately fall into obscurity just to rub it in? did you beat someone in a qualifier while his grandma was on her deathbed?

all no? i give you 1 out of a possible 10 snipers.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
October 05 2015 16:28 GMT
#5
I know many of the super rich also arent actually evil like Bill Gates or the Google founder etc.

Wtf is this blog?
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10674 Posts
October 05 2015 16:31 GMT
#6
You are a saint.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
October 05 2015 17:31 GMT
#7
A month ago, I wrote a feature that allowed a missile system to work on a multi-core chip.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-05 17:46:35
October 05 2015 17:45 GMT
#8
On October 06 2015 02:31 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A month ago, I wrote a feature that allowed a missile system to work on a multi-core chip.

Thus preventing hundreds of collateral deaths! :D. One can hope.

Anyway OP whoever decided that people should be subjected to live stats of their performance is to blame, not the person who did their job and made the thing. Gotta admit it's a bit fucked up.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
October 05 2015 19:44 GMT
#9
you are not evil but now you have a hand in it

welcome to system
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 05 2015 20:07 GMT
#10
We pollute, we make sweatshop workers suffer for our clothing, we waste clean water, and do a laundry list of many bad things which we inadvertently do through our actions. You can't beat yourself over developing software that manages their efficiency when there's nothing inherently evil about it.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 05 2015 20:52 GMT
#11
I think part of quality of life is feeling good about the work you do. There are so many programmers who can feel happy and say 'I make things that make people's lives better.'

You might want to think of doing something which doesn't disgust you, since you are in an industry which gives you the luxury of choice. Someone else will do the job you're doing now, and the world won't be a better place, but at least you don't have to be part of the problem.

So many times I wonder how people can lose all their pride and contribute to creating something horrible. And sometimes the answer is just that they do it to survive, because they don't feel they have other options. But other times it's just something like this, you have an option, but it's inconvenient or the money is better. The money is better because lots of people don't want to do this kind of work.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 05 2015 21:34 GMT
#12
Evil does not lie in the execution, in the "what". Evil lies in the intent, the "why". You did no evil, brother.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
October 05 2015 23:08 GMT
#13
you are evil like Hank Scorpio w/o the panache

good enough for me!
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
October 05 2015 23:47 GMT
#14
On October 06 2015 06:34 OtherWorld wrote:
Evil does not lie in the execution, in the "what". Evil lies in the intent, the "why". You did no evil, brother.


One could argue that evil lies very much in the what of things, and that intent is secondary to that. One must shoulder the burden of consequence regardless of good intentions...Very much intent vs. impact.

And if it lies in the what of things, then it is what the OP decides to do/not do about his guilty conscience that matters.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 06 2015 04:51 GMT
#15
On October 06 2015 08:47 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 06:34 OtherWorld wrote:
Evil does not lie in the execution, in the "what". Evil lies in the intent, the "why". You did no evil, brother.


One could argue that evil lies very much in the what of things, and that intent is secondary to that. One must shoulder the burden of consequence regardless of good intentions...Very much intent vs. impact.

And if it lies in the what of things, then it is what the OP decides to do/not do about his guilty conscience that matters.

I was trying to cheer him up ):
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 08 2015 00:59 GMT
#16
Once you have a family moral decisions about work get even harder. Love trumps ethics and you'll stretch your morals in order to maintain a stable income for your kids. People don't set out to be evil, most just end up prioritizing those closest to them over strangers.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
notesfromunderground
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
188 Posts
October 08 2015 01:15 GMT
#17
you are a very thoughtful person.

have you ever read Hannah Arendt?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#18
On October 06 2015 02:45 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 02:31 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A month ago, I wrote a feature that allowed a missile system to work on a multi-core chip.

Anyway OP whoever decided that people should be subjected to live stats of their performance is to blame, not the person who did their job and made the thing. Gotta admit it's a bit fucked up.

So by this logic you can't blame someone for building torture devices? Just doing your job does not absolve you of what is done with your work.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-08 03:23:41
October 08 2015 03:19 GMT
#19
On October 08 2015 11:39 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 02:45 Djzapz wrote:
On October 06 2015 02:31 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A month ago, I wrote a feature that allowed a missile system to work on a multi-core chip.

Anyway OP whoever decided that people should be subjected to live stats of their performance is to blame, not the person who did their job and made the thing. Gotta admit it's a bit fucked up.

So by this logic you can't blame someone for building torture devices? Just doing your job does not absolve you of what is done with your work.

Says the man using a computer that is the result of the labor of hundreds of sweatshop workers. That said, maybe you're right.

Still, I think you can't let those things weigh on your conscience too much because it'll be bad for you. We're all guilty of this. Our extravagant lifestyles are afforded by the misery of others. Whether you indirectly make life a living hell for people by allowing your boss to monitor human beings like cattle, or you buy an iPhone built with the blood and tears of people who's lives you could turn around with literally a week's worth of your wage, we're all doing the selfish thing because it's normal... hell, it's valorized. My engineer friend is a superstar in his firm for having designed a machine that'll almost certainly lead to 50-ish layoffs over the next few years in a local enterprise.

In an odd and unpredictable twist, this post ends with the staggering declaration that we're all kind of evil. And perhaps what separates OP from actually being "evil" is that he feels guilt. It's just about the most courageous thing a person will do, these days. Feel guilt, then retreat to a comfortable state of ambivalence while doing nothing about it. It's what I do sometimes.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
notesfromunderground
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
188 Posts
October 08 2015 03:27 GMT
#20
Do you feel it would be possible to act courageously? What would it look like?
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 141
Nathanias 138
ProTech94
JuggernautJason84
StarCraft: Brood War
ajuk12(nOOB) 22
NaDa 16
Beast 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever354
Pyrionflax243
capcasts197
League of Legends
Reynor39
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K694
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu526
Other Games
Grubby2509
FrodaN776
summit1g743
ToD205
C9.Mang0137
ZombieGrub122
Trikslyr39
Sick14
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV19
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 32
• musti20045 24
• RyuSc2 7
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 4
• iopq 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21658
League of Legends
• Doublelift3643
• TFBlade222
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1040
• Shiphtur130
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 36m
The PondCast
12h 36m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
13h 36m
herO vs MaxPax
Clem vs Classic
Replay Cast
1d 2h
LiuLi Cup
1d 13h
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
1d 18h
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
Big Brain Bouts
1d 18h
Iba vs GgMaChine
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Reynor vs Classic
Serral vs Clem
BSL Team Wars
1d 21h
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
1d 21h
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
2 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
2 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.