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fluffy_pylon
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Endymion
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fluffy_pylon
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Endymion
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fluffy_pylon
United States79 Posts
On April 04 2015 12:23 Endymion wrote: do you cheese peruvians in broodwar? this was my preferred pastime in the era coinciding with 2009-2011. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On April 04 2015 12:17 fluffy_pylon wrote: My philosophical views tend towards anarchism, nihilism, hedonism, and misanthropy. Yet somehow you're upset that other people will consider you a failure? If life has no meaning or worth then how can you fail at it? Hedonism is doing whatever you want whenever you want to because it feels good to do it. Have you failed at self indulgence? I'm not sure you know what misanthropy is or else you wouldn't consider yourself a loser for never helping anyone... If you dislike/hate humanity and humankind then who cares if you consume valuable air and resources? edit my last line was redundant | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On April 04 2015 12:06 fluffy_pylon wrote: If I were to disappear at this very moment, no one (except my family) would miss me. I have no friends or acquaintances. And sometimes I believe my family only cares about me because they feel the obligation to, not out of any love or kindness. My life is pointless and meaningless. I exist only to fulfill my selfish wants and desires. I have never (even accidentally) helped another human being or animal in any way. I have no reason to be alive except for breathing valuable air, expending valuable resources, and being a loser. I will never amount to anything or ever contribute to the world and therefore I will always be an utter and complete failure. It's clear that future-me built a time machine, went back in time to find 19-year-old-me to help me out during my darkest time, but 19-year-old me killed future-me, then future me came to present-me's time to make this blog with a smurf account. You are definitely 19-year-old-MDJ | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On April 04 2015 12:06 fluffy_pylon wrote: If I were to disappear at this very moment, no one (except my family) would miss me. I have no friends or acquaintances. And sometimes I believe my family only cares about me because they feel the obligation to, not out of any love or kindness. My life is pointless and meaningless. I exist only to fulfill my selfish wants and desires. I have never (even accidentally) helped another human being or animal in any way. I have no reason to be alive except for breathing valuable air, expending valuable resources, and being a loser. I will never amount to anything or ever contribute to the world and therefore I will always be an utter and complete failure. Please pick up some form of spirituality. I don't care what, you could pray to a rock for all I care. It makes life more fun. Make up reasons. Please don't take anger out on anyone. I used to feel alone, picked on, etc. I think it's more fun to try to find people who I like / like me than to judge myself based on what others have said about me. I also recommend looking into the idea that you are not your mind. Then use this idea to stop listening to the negative voice inside your head. For example, that voice that wrote this paragraph. If you could believe differently, would you? If you could be positive or optimistic for any reason, would you want to be? Rather than what you currently believe? Could you be more positive? Would you want to be? When? I'm available via PM if you ever want to talk about anything. Though I will say right now that I am not a qualified psychologist or any related profession, so I probably won't be able to "cure" you. But I am of the opinion that everybody in this type of situation has to do that for themselves. But if talking helps, I'm all ears. Maybe some music will help. I don't know if you like this type of music. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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excitedBear
Austria120 Posts
To say that there is any meaning to all this would be quite a stretch. It's all too ridiculous, yet I'm very enthusiastic about it and embrace life simply BECAUSE it's so ridiculous. | ||
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hiromi
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On April 04 2015 15:05 hp.Shell wrote: Please pick up some form of spirituality. I don't care what, you could pray to a rock for all I care. It makes life more fun. Make up reasons. Please don't take anger out on anyone. I used to feel alone, picked on, etc. I think it's more fun to try to find people who I like / like me than to judge myself based on what others have said about me. I also recommend looking into the idea that you are not your mind. Then use this idea to stop listening to the negative voice inside your head. For example, that voice that wrote this paragraph. If you could believe differently, would you? If you could be positive or optimistic for any reason, would you want to be? Rather than what you currently believe? Could you be more positive? Would you want to be? When? I'm available via PM if you ever want to talk about anything. Though I will say right now that I am not a qualified psychologist or any related profession, so I probably won't be able to "cure" you. But I am of the opinion that everybody in this type of situation has to do that for themselves. But if talking helps, I'm all ears. Maybe some music will help. I don't know if you like this type of music. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5-2-jD-42Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o27348qj5qI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1g5n-TyuoY + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNCU6Kve9o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rYL8AHJaTc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevZEOUXpw4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHRnvjCkTsw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0pPNmxy9k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiVmQZwJhsA Screw picking up spirituality, seek professional help if that is how you truly feel. | ||
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Ej_
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16601 Posts
On April 04 2015 12:06 fluffy_pylon wrote:I exist only to fulfill my selfish wants and desires. I have never (even accidentally) helped another human being or animal in any way. I have no reason to be alive except for breathing valuable air, expending valuable resources, and being a loser. I will never amount to anything or ever contribute to the world and therefore I will always be an utter and complete failure. According to your own constitution you have the inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Just your happiness.. no one else's ... only yours. According to one of America's most important philosophers selfishness is a virtue and altruism a vice. Here is a portion of a speech in one of this philosopher's most important works of art. "Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire. He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light, but he left them a gift they had not conceived, and he lifted darkness off the earth. Throughout the centuries, there were men who took first steps down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision. The great creators -- the thinkers, the artists, the scientists, the inventors -- stood alone against the men of their time. Every new thought was opposed; every new invention was denounced. But the men of unborrowed vision went ahead. They fought, they suffered, and they paid. But they won. No creator was prompted by a desire to please his brothers. His brothers hated the gift he offered. His truth was his only motive. His work was his only goal. His work -- not those who used it. His creation -- not the benefits others derived from it -- the creation which gave form to his truth. He held his truth above all things and against all men. He went ahead whether others agreed with him or not, with his integrity as his only banner. He served nothing and no one. He lived for himself. And only by living for himself was he able to achieve the things which are the glory of mankind." i'm sure with some googling you can find more about it. There is nothing wrong with being selfish. and there is nothing wrong with living for yourself. If you have a problem with this then i suggest you have some self esteem issues you need to work on. For this I recommend a nice little book by Nathaniel Branden entitled "How To Raise Your Self Esteem". On April 04 2015 13:00 showstealer1829 wrote: I find 4 gating noobs always breaks me out of my doldrums https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjTrNxxCz0 when i play as Random i like to 10 or 12 pool when i get Zerg and i'm playing against a Protoss. the rage is awesome. at the start of the game i lie and say i'm either Terran or Protoss. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On April 04 2015 15:45 LuckyFool wrote: pretty sure your younger cousin would miss you hhahahah l m a o nice one | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
Make it not meaningless anymore. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16836 Posts
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Dingodile
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
On April 05 2015 00:23 Dingodile wrote: Sounds like standard japanese life. Study said that the average per person (age: 12 - 29 yrs) have 0.45 friends in Japan. They exclude older generations for obvious reasons ("too much" friends). Each person in Japan has, on average, .45 friends? As in, if I randomly select two Japanese people, I'd expect them to have- collectively- about a total of only one friend? Not one shared friend, but one friend total? I can't see how that makes any sense whatsoever, especially when you'd take into account severe outliers (like a wealthy or famous person who has many friends... think of how much that'd skew the fraction... think of how many other Japanese people would have to have zero friends to even that out). Source? | ||
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Dingodile
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On April 05 2015 00:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Each person in Japan has, on average, .45 friends? As in, if I randomly select two Japanese people, I'd expect them to have- collectively- about a total of only one friend? Not one shared friend, but one friend total? I can't see how that makes any sense whatsoever, especially when you'd take into account severe outliers (like a wealthy or famous person who has many friends... think of how much that'd skew the fraction... think of how many other Japanese people would have to have zero friends to even that out). Source? Yes, total friends. They are f*cked, government Japan knows about it. I found an article few years ago about "friends". There were many examples around the world (including this one from japan). The definition and meaning of "friends" is going worse from generation to generation (in many countries, especially EU). In 1970, most people had 4-5 friends and spent a lot time each other. Todays generation rather 1-2 friends and not such much time, they prefer to be alone something like that (being independent and more silence). If I ask my friends: How do you like to live in 10 yrs? Everyone responds "A house with my wife in a very quiet area far far away". "What about friends?" "No Idea". _______________________________________________ On April 04 2015 12:06 fluffy_pylon wrote: If I were to disappear at this very moment, no one (except my family) would miss me. Nobody would miss you too (except your family), if your friends are already dead. I know three 90+ yr mens, whose all friends are dead. I knew all dead people personally. | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
On April 04 2015 16:37 hiromi wrote: Screw picking up spirituality, seek professional help if that is how you truly feel. I went through 4-5 of these professionals, none of them worked the slightest. I however found one professional that eventually pointed towards spirituality. Please bear in mind that spirituality/God/Joy etc, is just a symbol, that points to something within your mind. It's obvious we can have fake thoughts, and if you have allied with these thoughts, you need help to have them released. That is why willingness to have your mind healed, and to surrender to something that is greater than your false thoughts. Just don't go look for it outside of you, in form, cause its all in your mind. Seek within, and remember that if there is an answer to your suffering, shouldn't this answer be placed where your problem lies? As long as you think any problem is outside your mind, you will just delay the joy that is right in front of you. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
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Stolker
United States96 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
People just need to face the fact life sucks and we're parasites and our purpose is to survive, boxerfred has the right idea. You're probably dissatisfied with life because you sit at your computer complaining go out join a club of somekind make more friends and get a girl. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Modernism/Positivism really is the whiny, emo teenager of world views isn't it? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Why do you think you are evil? Do you possess the potential to stop being evil? Do you enjoy music? You seem to trust the World enough to dismiss any charity coming from it, but you do believe in some dis-order of things. This dis-order has given you the current, the preceding, and the coming moment. Why don't you believe in the strength of nothingness instead of weakness of nothingness? Why would no starting point nor end point be a bad thing? How can a World indifferent to us be a bad thing? Become even more acquainted with the world of Nature, it should calm you. Take up hiking, cycling, just go there and explore the world. See what it is to meet the World on its own and people seeking it as well. Find yourself. Good luck. | ||
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I think Camus effectively demonstrates the philosophical consequences of humans not being able to find objective meaning in the world they live in, yet feeling a need to find meaning in their personal lives. He concludes that the intellectually consistent way of dealing with this absurd condition is continuing to seek subjective meaning in our personal lives (to fulfill our internal needs) while remembering that these subjective meanings have no objective value (to be intellectually honest). Right now you are at the starting point (you cannot find objective meaning). You need to ask yourself: If life has no discernible inherent worth, what will you do your life? The answer for most of us is to act in ways that are consistent with what what we believe in. For example, I subjectively believe that the happiness of myself and others is a good thing, even though I know that objectively I cannot say that something is be "good" or "bad." So I try to act in ways that will make me and others happy, because I enjoy being happy and so do others. However I do not conflate my utilitarian beliefs with objective reality, and thus I do not take my beliefs too seriously or worry about whether they represent universal truths. Camus writes "There is no truth but merely truths." The wonderful thing about absurdism, in my opinion, is its intellectually sating worldview. You can be true to your deeply held beliefs and enjoy the world you were gifted while feeling no need to worry about whether your life is objectively meaningful. Certainty in a human inability to find inherent purpose also means freedom from existential doubt. As Camus said, "I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free." I'll leave you with another Camus quote: "In a moment, when I throw myself down among the absinthe plants to bring their scent into my body, I shall know, appearances to the contrary, that I am fulfilling a truth which is the sun's and which will also be my death's. In a sense, it is indeed my life that I am staking here, a life that tastes of warm stone, that is full of the signs of the sea and the rising song of the crickets. The breeze is cool and the sky blue. I love this life with abandon and wish to speak of it boldly: it makes me proud of my human condition. Yet people have often told me: there's nothing to be proud of. Yes, there is: this sun, this sea, my heart leaping with youth, the salt taste of my body and this vast landscape in which tenderness and glory merge in blue and yellow. It is to conquer this that I need my strength and my resources. Everything here leaves me intact, I surrender nothing of myself, and don no mask: learning patiently and arduously how to live is enough for me, well worth all their arts of living." | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
Trust me dude lots of people have it worse then you, so you either give up, or just say fuck it and make things better. But you have to decide nobody is going to do it for you. | ||
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
I highly doubt that you have never helped a person or animal. That just sounds like extreme negativity and self deprecation. I highly doubt your family only cares about you out of obligation. I'm sure they may want you to do better, and sort of giving you some 'tough love' treatment or are just simply uneducated on how to deal with depression. This is clearly a cry for help of some kind, so why don't you man up and ask someone close enough to actually help you. Explain almost verbatim the words you layed out here. Ask for help. It's cool, everyone needs help once in a while. Takes a strong person to do that. And you seem like you have been struggling a while, so you have to be strong in some aspects. You may feel like your life is selfish and lonely, or whatever. But everyone has to put themselves as priority number one. It's just how life works. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes it's fine. Right now it sucks. It'll be better eventually. You only feel like a failure because you aren't doing what you really want to be doing. And something is holding you back. This isn't about so called happiness. This is about satisfaction. Delayed gratification. Grit. Hard work. You have to make drastic changes in your life just because fuck it. What else is there to do? Take some risks, roll some dice, even if it comes up craps, you got an experience to learn from and move on. There is a difference between living the good life, and living a good life. The former isn't usually something that is a long term subsistence. Which is maybe what you thought you had and has run it's course. You gotta start making moves towards the latter, which takes time and effort. | ||
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hymn
Bulgaria832 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13966 Posts
On April 04 2015 17:04 Ej_ wrote: idk Life is pretty good, won GSL recently I was hoping thats what this blog would be about much more fun | ||
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farvacola
United States18820 Posts
On April 05 2015 05:38 Ovid wrote: Too many people recommending spirituality which is stupid, you should be able to live without resorting to fanciful creations that take the stress out of your life (Oh well there's the afterlife, or it was gods will ect) People just need to face the fact life sucks and we're parasites and our purpose is to survive, boxerfred has the right idea. You're probably dissatisfied with life because you sit at your computer complaining go out join a club of somekind make more friends and get a girl. Lol. So edgy. There is always a better way. | ||
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iVLosK!
Djibouti545 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13966 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On April 05 2015 05:38 Ovid wrote: Too many people recommending spirituality which is stupid, you should be able to live without resorting to fanciful creations that take the stress out of your life (Oh well there's the afterlife, or it was gods will ect) People just need to face the fact life sucks and we're parasites and our purpose is to survive, boxerfred has the right idea. You're probably dissatisfied with life because you sit at your computer complaining go out join a club of somekind make more friends and get a girl. Idk, I once met a few people who were part of a cult that would come together to meditate to make the will of their God manifest on earth. They all seemed weird and I wouldn't be caught dead being a part of their movement, but they seemed enthusiastic about it; and despite how bizarre their activities are, they seemed better off having some purpose in life. Also, certain activities are psychologically healthy. It seems that spirituality is like that, so from a neurological point of view it doesn't matter if you belief in God or in the power of the human mind to improve the world or whatever. I read an article about something similar, in case you're interested. http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/can-my-prayer-be-as-angry-and-funny-as-me/ | ||
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SoulRiM
Germany53 Posts
On April 05 2015 00:23 Dingodile wrote: Sounds like standard japanese life. Study said that the average per person (age: 12 - 29 yrs) have 0.45 friends in Japan. They exclude older generations for obvious reasons ("too much" friends). Really? :O Sound terrifying | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On April 05 2015 18:39 hymn wrote: Just go fcuk a hooker and do some cocaine highways. You will feel better, 100%. I know this post probably isn't serious, but my thoughts: distractions / unhealthy habits that "fuck you up" do not make you feel better. They just delay levels of enlightenment. Everybody who has gone through existentialism and become happier for it has some level of enlightenment. If you decide to say fuck it and go pay for hookers and drugs you'll never actually look at the existential thoughts. Then when you're sober again you'll come back to them and they will haunt you, until you reach this base line level of enlightenment which is choosing to be happy and to learning to make others happy by investing time into them. On April 04 2015 21:11 JimmyJRaynor wrote: According to your own constitution you have the inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Just your happiness.. no one else's ... only yours. According to one of America's most important philosophers selfishness is a virtue and altruism a vice. Here is a portion of a speech in one of this philosopher's most important works of art. "Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire. He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light, but he left them a gift they had not conceived, and he lifted darkness off the earth. Throughout the centuries, there were men who took first steps down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision. The great creators -- the thinkers, the artists, the scientists, the inventors -- stood alone against the men of their time. Every new thought was opposed; every new invention was denounced. But the men of unborrowed vision went ahead. They fought, they suffered, and they paid. But they won. No creator was prompted by a desire to please his brothers. His brothers hated the gift he offered. His truth was his only motive. His work was his only goal. His work -- not those who used it. His creation -- not the benefits others derived from it -- the creation which gave form to his truth. He held his truth above all things and against all men. He went ahead whether others agreed with him or not, with his integrity as his only banner. He served nothing and no one. He lived for himself. And only by living for himself was he able to achieve the things which are the glory of mankind." i'm sure with some googling you can find more about it. There is nothing wrong with being selfish. and there is nothing wrong with living for yourself. If you have a problem with this then i suggest you have some self esteem issues you need to work on. For this I recommend a nice little book by Nathaniel Branden entitled "How To Raise Your Self Esteem". when i play as Random i like to 10 or 12 pool when i get Zerg and i'm playing against a Protoss. the rage is awesome. at the start of the game i lie and say i'm either Terran or Protoss. Apparently I need to read Ayn Rand. | ||
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farvacola
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On April 06 2015 03:38 Grumbels wrote: Idk, I once met a few people who were part of a cult that would come together to meditate to make the will of their God manifest on earth. They all seemed weird and I wouldn't be caught dead being a part of their movement, but they seemed enthusiastic about it; and despite how bizarre their activities are, they seemed better off having some purpose in life. Also, certain activities are psychologically healthy. It seems that spirituality is like that, so from a neurological point of view it doesn't matter if you belief in God or in the power of the human mind to improve the world or whatever. I read an article about something similar, in case you're interested. http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/can-my-prayer-be-as-angry-and-funny-as-me/ One day I might write up why I believe what I do. I will probably do so after I get the paperwork about me from the boarding "school" so it can be better written. I don't doubt spiritualism works for some people but I feel it's just a bandaid for your mind I personally feel like you should be comfortable to be on your own. But that's not the normal human reaction for example that psychology experiment with the 12 people and two lines on longer than each other and they're asked to say which one is smaller at the first 11 are researchers and say it's the bigger one and 90% of the last people who agreed because they couldn't stand on their own. | ||
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
On April 06 2015 09:13 Ovid wrote: One day I might write up why I believe what I do. I will probably do so after I get the paperwork about me from the boarding "school" so it can be better written. I don't doubt spiritualism works for some people but I feel it's just a bandaid for your mind I personally feel like you should be comfortable to be on your own. But that's not the normal human reaction for example that psychology experiment with the 12 people and two lines on longer than each other and they're asked to say which one is smaller at the first 11 are researchers and say it's the bigger one and 90% of the last people who agreed because they couldn't stand on their own. Those are the Asch conformity experiments and it's really only a 1/3 who conformed, so I'm not sure it supports your point so well. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On April 08 2015 03:37 LaughingTulkas wrote: Those are the Asch conformity experiments and it's really only a 1/3 who conformed, so I'm not sure it supports your point so well. I was going off memory it's 1/3 for all the questions but 75% across people, meaning at somepoint during the testing they conformed to the group. So it's sort of a half relevant thing next time I will search it to see if my memory of it holds up | ||
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