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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 16 2015 15:05 GMT
#1
I am so sad right now. Major ISPs (Globe and PLDT) in our country has started ComCast~ing us with throttled bandwidth along with data caps.

History


Just a little background, as far as I know PLDT is the major player in the ISProviders in the Philippines, they control MOST of the infrastructure and deliberately monopolizes this since they are the ones who have Domestic Fiber Network (DFON).

Since PLDT has enough muscle in this country to dictate what it wants and disobey common standards of data routing, it chooses a different approach that will only benefit itself and not other peers like Globe.


Instead of routing data to our country's own IX, PLDT connects to Hong Kong Internet eXchange (HKIX) through its private VIX (Vitro Internet Exchange). This is a very shady practice because the data, that should originate and terminate here in Philippines, is instead, routed outside in Hong Kong just to return back to Philippines.


(if interested, read more here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/2aurzq/how_pldt_deliberately_keeps_local_internet )

Current Issue


Globe

Recently (a year ago I think?) Globe suddenly implemented it's "Fair Use Policy" where they throttle the user's bandwidth to accommodate other users.

Globe is committed to providing you with fast and reliable mobile internet service. That's why we've taken steps to implement an Fair Use Policy designed to reduce the speeds of only the 3% of users who are responsible for generating large volumes of traffic on your network which greatly impacts the service we offer to other paying subscribers. These customers often have file-sharing software or peer-to-peer/torrent apps on their phones or tablets, and download large-format files such as music, videos and movies consistently.

This means customers on an internet promo and plan who exceed 1 GB a day or 3 GB per month (whichever comes first) will experience browsing at slower speeds.

This policy allows us to maintain the quality of our mobile internet service and give all Globe customers a fair opportunity to enjoy our network.

Our Fair Use Policy is aligned with the global industry practice of telecommunications providers anywhere in the world and is subject to change without prior notice.

Our Fair Use Policy applies to all surfing promos and internet plans for Globe Postpaid and Tattoo Postpaid, except PowerSurf. It also doesn't cover surfing charged with regular browsing rates (P5/15 minutes).

Mobile surfing offers from Globe are generally meant for emailing, browsing and search activities. Customers who frequently use file-sharing software or download large files are usually the ones affected by our policy. Media streaming and downloading of torrents also contribute to the excessive use of bandwidth capacity.


http://www.globe.com.ph/surf/fup

A lot of Globe subscribers were disappointed and complained to Globe but all of it went through deaf ears. A lot of them switched to PLDT (which already have the highest market share in the Philippines).

Because of this, Globe decided to do the most logical move recently, they just announced that they are increasing the caps and throttling your speed to...
64 KBPS

http://www.yugatech.com/telecoms/globe-dsl-switches-from-daily-to-monthly-caps/

Php 2,500 = $56 USD = 10 Mbps, 50GB cap per month + unreliable service.

*sigh*

PLDT

Back when I was still living with my mom's, we use PLDT. 3mbps, Php 999 ($22), very good uptime. I moved out from the province to work in the capital (Manila), first thing I did was subscribe to PLDT, same plan with blazing fast speed.

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This is what I get during peak hours (100 kb/s off-peak).
PLDT used to be the "good-guy" for me, unfortunately they also are gonna introduce throttling and capping, starting with their other services.

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With these two major ISPs taking advantage of their hold in the industry, I don't know what the future of the Philippine internet would have.

PLDT and Globe keep on registering new subscribers but unable to handle the new influx. Instead of upgrading their infrastructure, they decided to limit the use.

TL;DR i suck at writing and our internet sucks.

I just want to rant. I would like to unsubscribe and move to another provider but the smaller ISPs are none the better which makes me sad. Google save us ;_;
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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
March 16 2015 17:15 GMT
#2
google gif fiber indeed
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44240 Posts
March 16 2015 17:31 GMT
#3
Yeah our internet quality sucks and is expensive

Although there's a possibility that there may be other factors that we may not know why we have shitty internet and maybe they are not actually going full douchebag and there are actually limitations (physical factors or maybe shit like networking issues that i know little about) why our internet sucks.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
March 16 2015 17:32 GMT
#4
From the statements, this seems less about ISP and more about Wireless telecoms? Its not uncommon for telecoms to do this, as bandwidth can actually be an issue for the technology/frequencies in high density places.

Most ISPs just decide to charge you ridiculous amounts once you go over cap, because they can easily supply the bandwidth, but want dat money..
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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
March 16 2015 19:15 GMT
#5
This unfortunately seems to be the state of the internet in most places. I live in a major metropolitan area in the US, and my choices are pretty much only Comcast or Qwest (DSL, which sucks). So basically only Comcast. So I just put up with the outages, throttling during peak hours, bad customer service, and constant attempts to sell me TV. Because I have no choice. Aren't monopolies fun?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 17 2015 00:02 GMT
#6
On March 17 2015 02:32 Tephus wrote:
From the statements, this seems less about ISP and more about Wireless telecoms? Its not uncommon for telecoms to do this, as bandwidth can actually be an issue for the technology/frequencies in high density places.

Most ISPs just decide to charge you ridiculous amounts once you go over cap, because they can easily supply the bandwidth, but want dat money..

Globe is already implementing their Fair-Use Policy in both their wireless and cable service while PLDT is just starting to cap and throttle only wireless.

I really feel that the internet is a 'need' and it makes me sad that we're given below average service and taken advantage of with no other alternative
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Shortizz
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore129 Posts
March 17 2015 03:51 GMT
#7
I know i shouldnt, but this kinda makes me happy for SEA server.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 17 2015 04:05 GMT
#8
lol okay buddy
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 17 2015 06:25 GMT
#9
Mygod just as I hit "Post" to post my reply, my net dies on me and I have to redo everything. :/

I use SkyBroadband and I get a stable 300kb/s to 350kb/s. However, they had this promo and due to the sudden influx of their new subscribers, they've been spotty from time to time with intermittent connection. Sometimes the internet would go out for minutes up to hours - and the bad part is that their customer service line is usually down when you call them.

imo having a monopoly is really shitty cuz of how bad the service is. it's like when PLDT was the sole provider of landline telephone, they didn't care if it took them months to install a connection to a new subscriber.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 17 2015 06:31 GMT
#10
I really wanted to switch to SkyCable due to rate:speed ratio but their uptime is pretty questionable =/ Only selected areas have very stable connections afaik.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 17 2015 06:47 GMT
#11
I live in Teachers Village and it's pretty stable. They just have questionable services from time to time.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
March 17 2015 16:56 GMT
#12
I feel sad for you.
50+$ for this shitty service is not acceptable.
Even in my 9th world country, it is possible to pay 30 $ for 20Mbit/2Mbit up to 80Gbyte then 3Mbit/2Mbit until the end of the month.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
March 17 2015 21:11 GMT
#13
Honestly though, Canada is pretty bad as well. I pay 70$/m for 25up/2.5d, no cap, and I'm getting a deal.
45$/m for 300mb of phone data (unlimited txt/local calls)
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 17 2015 22:44 GMT
#14
Even in my 9th world country, it is possible to pay 30 $ for 20Mbit/2Mbit up to 80Gbyte then 3Mbit/2Mbit until the end of the month.

We're pretty similar but it's $22 for 3 Mbit through out. Im lucky with 100 ping in SEA.

and I'm getting a deal.
45$/m for 300mb of phone data (unlimited txt/local calls)

That's expensive! My phone deal is like, $12 for 100mb data/month with unlimited txt calls. But well, we have different costs of living. I believe the average filipino here earns 3k-4k dollars per YEAR but of course a much less cost of living
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 21 2015 04:05 GMT
#15
(oh thats why there aren't a lot of trashtalking pisonet boys around lately)
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
wifom
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom4 Posts
March 23 2015 16:31 GMT
#16
On March 18 2015 06:11 Tephus wrote:
Honestly though, Canada is pretty bad as well. I pay 70$/m for 25up/2.5d, no cap, and I'm getting a deal.
45$/m for 300mb of phone data (unlimited txt/local calls)

That doesn't sound right. Do you mean 25 down and 2.5 up?

Rarely do I see an asymmetric balanced that way round, usually download is much higher than upload.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
March 23 2015 19:38 GMT
#17
Yea, my bad.
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